I'm a pretty casual computer user, and even I knew that the idea that the logs might be source code was an asinine assertion. I actually went back to re-read it to make sure I had read correctly, because it was so retarded.
And that's not even getting into the implication that the security and protection of proprietary software is more important than securing our election integrity. Proprietary software needs to be nowhere near processes such as vote tabulation (and there are good arguments for firing it into the sun altogether.)
Logs show what the application is programmed to log.
Although there is a scenario where logs may show exceptions and their stacktraces, containing names of classes and methods. But that's no valuable information and usually says little to nothing to those not having access to the source code.
It is clear that the argument is desperate and meant to be deceptive.
And why the fuck should exposing the source code be a "security issue"? This is RIDICULOUS. Son, that fucking thing is supposed to work in a straight forward manner. It's a fucking simple piece of code. And yes, even exposing the source code is irrelevant - encrypted data won't be easier to crack because they operate on keys. You have to expect your source code to be easily hacked anyway, and operate under the assumption that your encryption takes years, decades or the total lifetime of our Sun to be cracked.
If these companies are literally republishing their source code in its entirety at some point in their event logs, they deserve to have it all leaked in the courts.
Spoiler alert: They aren’t because that would be that would be a very very stupid thing to even try to do, if not actually impossible. The quoted person either doesn’t know what they’re talking about or is peddling falsehoods because they know most people are dumb enough to buy it.
this is another case of people just not understanding tech at all... Logs are just lists of actions that happened And what time and day, not source code. Someone needs to get in their face and shout this at them.
The Left does that, and they are protected by the system for doing it. Conservatives/Republicans are fucking morons and cowards. Instead of doing the same thing and blasting on all forms of media "Here are all the examples of when you did this and the media and establishment protected you, eat a dick", we say "Well, we don't like it when they do it and we need to set an example. Don't want to abuse our power."
Until we fix this mentality, we will lose... every... single... time.
This is a national security issue and a national emergency. The military needs to just step in and seize these fucking machines. They are incriminating evidence in potential prosecutions before tribunals. Otherwise the corrupt governors and judges will keep playing games like this to run out the clock.
I was joking. Others have documented the real algorithm . This whole thing is insanity anyways, we completely destroyed our election process in a few decades.
But the court went along with it as absurd as it is. Ignorance? Doubtful: so far, complicity is the rule in our judicial system. The judges need to be swept up in the dragnet, civilian and/or military.
There is the possibility that the code is so poorly written that the logs expose sensitive information, which is a massive “no-no” in secure software. Take for example a user logs into the system, the authentication service writes to the logs that the user successfully logged in and logs their username and password in plain text.
It’s a very common infosec leak to log sensitive info, but asserting that could be “source code” is asinine. Even if it printed the function call with all its context (which is laughably stupid unless they left debug log level on or something) that still isn’t “source code”.
I am going to guess that Dominion or some other group has clawback provisions that fuck over a state if they let the machines “source code” or “proprietary hardware” secrets be audited.
This would give the DA the reason needed to defend the machines instead of the public, because if failure to protect the machines costs the state hundreds of million of dollars, then the DA has to protect the machines, and by proxy, the tax payer...
Oh, so noooooow "might be" is iron clad. When it's all the problems surrounding Dominion, "might" can go either way and you have to find the exact people in the conspiracy before you can even begin to think about investigating.
It's not like that toolshed was the same one that said "We're not here to investigate, we're here to count" during the audit. Oh wait... This is the Griffin's house, bring me a toolshed for I am hungry!
There is no log in the fucking world that has source code.
That would be like having an electrician out to your house and, instead of explaining the issue and offering a fix, they give you a wiring schematic. This is some bullshit smokescreen. Tell them to fuck off.
At this point the only solution for these people that will stop at nothing to conceal fraud working with the corrupt judiciary is hanging. I think there is just way too many people on the take, and this is so slow rolling that whatever headway we make they will find a way to conceal, obstruct, lie, stall. etc. etc., the EVIL that is trying to stop us revealing the truth just hatches some insane plan and these apparatchiks go with it knowing the judiciary will cover all the tracks. It is plain as day highway robbery. I am sad to say that force might be the only option left very soon.
"argued that the logs “might be source code” and publishing them could be a security issue. "
Or this this makes us look really bad and guilty of fraud
I'm a pretty casual computer user, and even I knew that the idea that the logs might be source code was an asinine assertion. I actually went back to re-read it to make sure I had read correctly, because it was so retarded.
And that's not even getting into the implication that the security and protection of proprietary software is more important than securing our election integrity. Proprietary software needs to be nowhere near processes such as vote tabulation (and there are good arguments for firing it into the sun altogether.)
The simple answer is this:
Logs show what the application is programmed to log.
Although there is a scenario where logs may show exceptions and their stacktraces, containing names of classes and methods. But that's no valuable information and usually says little to nothing to those not having access to the source code.
It is clear that the argument is desperate and meant to be deceptive.
And why the fuck should exposing the source code be a "security issue"? This is RIDICULOUS. Son, that fucking thing is supposed to work in a straight forward manner. It's a fucking simple piece of code. And yes, even exposing the source code is irrelevant - encrypted data won't be easier to crack because they operate on keys. You have to expect your source code to be easily hacked anyway, and operate under the assumption that your encryption takes years, decades or the total lifetime of our Sun to be cracked.
Then they'll claim technical ignorance
They might be source code; they might be a tuna fish sandwich. We really don't know....
What is a stack trace?
That might look like source code to a lawyer, , but it isnt.
If these companies are literally republishing their source code in its entirety at some point in their event logs, they deserve to have it all leaked in the courts.
Spoiler alert: They aren’t because that would be that would be a very very stupid thing to even try to do, if not actually impossible. The quoted person either doesn’t know what they’re talking about or is peddling falsehoods because they know most people are dumb enough to buy it.
this is another case of people just not understanding tech at all... Logs are just lists of actions that happened And what time and day, not source code. Someone needs to get in their face and shout this at them.
It's like if a FOIA request for a list of people who visited the White House was denied for National Security reasons... Pathetic.
I hate it when people assume corruption is just a misunderstanding or incompetence.
LEAK EVERYTHING EVERY TIME. It’s almost like we need a wiki-leaking-website-thingy.. oh, right..
The Left does that, and they are protected by the system for doing it. Conservatives/Republicans are fucking morons and cowards. Instead of doing the same thing and blasting on all forms of media "Here are all the examples of when you did this and the media and establishment protected you, eat a dick", we say "Well, we don't like it when they do it and we need to set an example. Don't want to abuse our power."
Until we fix this mentality, we will lose... every... single... time.
The fake whistleblowers are protected by the system. The true whistleblowers are always ferociously attacked and silenced.
Did you say leak? https://pdfhost.io/v/OXHmhoIwZ_Antrim_Michigan_Forensics_Report_121320_PRELIpdf.pdf
MFW protecting a private company's "source code" is more important than protecting the integrity of our country's elections.
This is a national security issue and a national emergency. The military needs to just step in and seize these fucking machines. They are incriminating evidence in potential prosecutions before tribunals. Otherwise the corrupt governors and judges will keep playing games like this to run out the clock.
Whatever works, comrade.
They probably have the calculation "1+1=2" defined as Intellectual Property.
!!!BReAkinG: Dominion Source Code Leaked!!! If votetotal < 1000 and vote==biden biden++, if votetotal < 1000 and vote==trump trump++, else biden++
I was joking. Others have documented the real algorithm . This whole thing is insanity anyways, we completely destroyed our election process in a few decades.
But the court went along with it as absurd as it is. Ignorance? Doubtful: so far, complicity is the rule in our judicial system. The judges need to be swept up in the dragnet, civilian and/or military.
Programmer here.
Logs are not source code.
MI SOS is a fucking faggot and idiot. He's either dumb or he's in on the steal.
Don't be like the MI SOS.
In on the steal. 100%
Her preferred pronoun is 'she'
My 6 year old knows the difference between logs and source code. Not even fucking joking a little bit.
Obv a bullshit excuse.
There is the possibility that the code is so poorly written that the logs expose sensitive information, which is a massive “no-no” in secure software. Take for example a user logs into the system, the authentication service writes to the logs that the user successfully logged in and logs their username and password in plain text.
It’s a very common infosec leak to log sensitive info, but asserting that could be “source code” is asinine. Even if it printed the function call with all its context (which is laughably stupid unless they left debug log level on or something) that still isn’t “source code”.
I think it's safe to assume he's in on the steal and should be treated as such...
With rope?
Too late - we all know already.
LMAO
The lawyers know exactly what they are doing. They are just hoping the judge doesn't.
More importantly, who was the judge that believed them and granted this?
Everyone involved here needs to be disbarred.
They are lawyers because math wuz 2 hard and they can't code.
Bruh, they won't get the source code without decomiling the software, which is not even CLOSE to what they want to do.
The software is COMPILED CODE, which do actions in a software language. In the logs you CANNOT find ANY source code.
PLEASE get a developer to explain this to the SoS/judge in very simple terms.
Yeah unless the motherfucker is written in python!
Simo Hayha was a great man
https://thedonald.win/p/11R4gd0O4k/simo-hayha-the-man-the-patriot-t/c/
I am going to guess that Dominion or some other group has clawback provisions that fuck over a state if they let the machines “source code” or “proprietary hardware” secrets be audited.
This would give the DA the reason needed to defend the machines instead of the public, because if failure to protect the machines costs the state hundreds of million of dollars, then the DA has to protect the machines, and by proxy, the tax payer...
It may not be just Dominion. Zuckerberg's money had clawback provisions.
The only surprise is that i knew what RUFKM meant instantly
Oh, so noooooow "might be" is iron clad. When it's all the problems surrounding Dominion, "might" can go either way and you have to find the exact people in the conspiracy before you can even begin to think about investigating.
It's not like that toolshed was the same one that said "We're not here to investigate, we're here to count" during the audit. Oh wait... This is the Griffin's house, bring me a toolshed for I am hungry!
Software engineer pede.
There is no log in the fucking world that has source code.
That would be like having an electrician out to your house and, instead of explaining the issue and offering a fix, they give you a wiring schematic. This is some bullshit smokescreen. Tell them to fuck off.
Until we have genocided the demon party and their cronies, America will remain in its broken state.
If you are using "not publishing source code" as a security feature, then you are are already fucked.
Can't wait to see that military court case💀
Might as well just ignore the court order, laws don't matter anymore, right?
It’s gonna be a shame when people just start shooting these people without even mentioning an arrest or trial.
They deserve a trial so everyone can see they are corrupt and then a swift execution.
I'm with OP, I vote hang these treasonous fucks.
Then again, if I voted they would probably flip my vote and let them walk free.
Fuck how do you even print out source code in a log file? At least find a fucking credible excuses, you retard.
At this point the only solution for these people that will stop at nothing to conceal fraud working with the corrupt judiciary is hanging. I think there is just way too many people on the take, and this is so slow rolling that whatever headway we make they will find a way to conceal, obstruct, lie, stall. etc. etc., the EVIL that is trying to stop us revealing the truth just hatches some insane plan and these apparatchiks go with it knowing the judiciary will cover all the tracks. It is plain as day highway robbery. I am sad to say that force might be the only option left very soon.
Logs are not source code. WTF are these lawyers smoking?
I'm sorry but if your machines are being used for elections, should they be open source?
You shouldn't be able to hide what you're doing.
If they can be hacked, they shouldn't be used.
And they definitely shouldn't come with easily accessible USB connections.
um. logs ARE NOT source code
LOGS ARE NEVER SOURCE CODE... I AM A DEVELOPER...
Wow I really don’t know which one of these states is the worst.
Pedes in these states, WTF?
Was the judge 107 years old? How did he fall for this, unless I dunno he is a Democrat.
This guy is a treasonous traitor. Should just go ahead and turn himself in.