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posted ago by Doggos ago by Doggos +5894 / -0

Okay, that was a bit of clickbait, but Alexis Ohanian (a Reddit founder - the one who left the Reddit board earlier this year and requested he be replaced by a black person) is a significant investor in Guilded.

Some people are led to believe that Guilded is a viable alternative to Discord, but it is not.

Alexis is the worst of the Reddit founders (which are Alexis, Steve, and also Aaron who 'committed suicide' in 2013, and now Steve pretends never existed)

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Doggos [M] [S] 185 points ago +186 / -1 stickied

As I said below with regards to developing a Discord alternative:

Yes - and this would be preferable, but the problem with this is that messaging platforms REQUIRE mobile apps, and we all know that isn't happening.

Expanding on that - we are also spread very thin as it is on the development of our Reddit alternative, so it's not a great idea and not something that we are seriously considering.

Having said that, if you are a developer with the experience and time to contribute to the development of a Discord (or Reddit) alternative, then send me a private message. (even if you've messaged me before - sorry, I am not great at dealing with messages)

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Sun_Tzu 124 points ago +126 / -2

Based Doggos saving the world!!!

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Troll 64 points ago +69 / -5

This isn't Doggos being based. This is just very basic, simple, common sense.

Why people keep suggesting these platforms without any research or understanding baffles me.

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Art-Vandelay41 10 points ago +12 / -2

Is this the same Aaron that “committed suicide”? Also can someone explain why that is in quotes? For me to believe a conspiracy theory it has to be built from bottom-top not top-bottom.

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Wtf_socialismreally 8 points ago +9 / -1

Aaron was pressured incredibly hard IIRC and it drove him to suicide, so there were other people responsible.

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labiator 2 points ago +2 / -0

Obama's D o J.

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labiator 2 points ago +2 / -0

And Epstein gave 500 grand to MIT. The plot thickens.

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Overkillengine 1 point ago +1 / -0

Can't imagine why someone would suggest people go to platforms where they can be corralled, monitored, and censored.

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labiator 1 point ago +1 / -0

Poland has the right idea. Fining any socmed that impinges on free speech that does not transgres Polish law.

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SirPokeSmottington -2 points ago +5 / -7

Why people keep suggesting these platforms without any research or understanding baffles me.

THE ONLY PLATFORM WE SHOULD MIGRATE TO IS IRC. PERIOD.

Any other suggestion is kids trying to lead the adults. Step out of the way kiddos, it's grownups time now.

IRC. PERIOD.

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Spez_Isacuck 96 points ago +97 / -1

Steve Huffman is a cuckold.

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STEVE_HUFFMANS_BULL 50 points ago +51 / -1

Can confirm

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NoMoreLies 2 points ago +2 / -0

Here’s a Trump chat server you can join on Element.

https://thedonald.win/p/11R4zJ6gVl/fuck-discord-come-chat-with-us-o/c/

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StretchnGretchen 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm still trying to figure this out. How do you know if you've been "accepted"? I can't seem to get anyone to see my messages.

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spezisacuckold 3 points ago +4 / -1

Can also confirm.

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bigdickhangsright 2 points ago +2 / -0

Cuckception

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KaliyugaNavigator 3 points ago +4 / -1

False. He larps as a cannibal but actually subsists strictly on soy and bull semen.

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MAGA_Flocka_Flame 1 point ago +1 / -0

Regardless, he has another man’s meat inside him one way or another

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MrGreggle 3 points ago +3 / -0

Fact Check: Pants on FIRE!!!!!

Steve Huffman is a cuckold, cannibal and pedophile.

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krypt0 55 points ago +57 / -2

Join us on IRC

No download, no personal information needed.

Go to this link https://webchat.ircnet.net/

Provide a nickname. I am using anon. ;)

Then you will be on the network.

type the command

/join #thedonald

and I will see you there.

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ProgramNerd 11 points ago +12 / -1

I'd be so happy if thedonald took back tech again. Getting people to stick their foot in the door for stuff like this will MAGA more than anything other than protesting.

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krypt0 7 points ago +8 / -1

You can if you want. Don't think it's needed. So far we have 5 people on the chan.

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NoMoreLies 3 points ago +3 / -0

Here’s a Trump chat server you can join on Element.

https://thedonald.win/p/11R4zJ6gVl/fuck-discord-come-chat-with-us-o/c/

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fbeeee 0 points ago +1 / -1

Should hack up the IRC protocol to add file support like discord

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MLGS 2 points ago +2 / -0

We already have maga.host.

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fbeeee 1 point ago +1 / -0

I didn't know about this!

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ThaDtothaOtothaN 5 points ago +6 / -1

Oh god does this mean I should instal mIrc again and get some bots rolling? Here come the 90's!

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ThaDtothaOtothaN 2 points ago +3 / -1

FYI connect to IRC with a VPN as it will expose your actual IP address.

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SirPokeSmottington 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh god does this mean I should instal mIrc again

No, it means you should go to IRC Cloud.

https://www.irccloud.com/irc/irccloud/channel/the_donald

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krypt0 0 points ago +1 / -1

We could use a bot! Yeah!

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TacticalKeyboard 2 points ago +2 / -0

Joined

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krypt0 2 points ago +2 / -0

I see ya!

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TacticalKeyboard 1 point ago +1 / -0

;)

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Sand313man 1 point ago +1 / -0

That’s terrible man.. can barely see chat and type at same time on mobile.

Channel is lost as soon as you leave too (I guess that’s the point in some ways).

But essentially that’s not good enough for mobile.

This Internet forum can have a real life exchange chat in real time better than that.

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krypt0 1 point ago +1 / -0

The web site gets you in fast and easy. A better experience can be had if you download an irc client.

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Sand313man 1 point ago +1 / -0

I joined that element matrix thing - refer other comments - that’s much better

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krypt0 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah I didn't join that. It also asks for personal information on joining and I have zero interest in that.

Using IRC now.

No download, no personal information needed.

Go to this link https://webchat.ircnet.net/

Provide a nickname.

Then you will be on the network.

type the command

/join #thedonald

and I will see you there.

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Sand313man 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nope - all you need is a nickname and password on element.

Rest is optional. Doesn’t even need email.

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TheGreenDutchman 42 points ago +43 / -1

Matrix or IRC. Nothing else.

You never should have used the CCP-funded Discord, it's literal spyware that monitors your active processes (to "see what games you're running" even if you turn that option off) and they monitor all communications for "hate speech" while leaving antifa and people literally blackmailing teenagers into taking hormne therapy alone.

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MLGS 1 point ago +1 / -0

The problem with IRC is that it's centralized, so it isn't scalable,

In a world where cloud VPSes are incredibly easy to set up, any IRC network can easily be scaled up to deal with any amount of users. It's not like 20 years ago where you had to lease physical servers to set up your network.

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Eu-is-socialist 0 points ago +1 / -1

And it also gives up the IP addresses .

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Eu-is-socialist 1 point ago +2 / -1

Well no. I meant IRC gives it away to everyone not just people running the service . Any shill will know your general location. That ain't good at all.

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notnowblink182 0 points ago +5 / -5

Ex Delta Force Dale comstock is all for 100,000 pedes storming the capitol on Jan 6

https://youtu.be/V8JM2Tq9QeI

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TheGreenDutchman 2 points ago +2 / -0

It was a pretty well known topic on 8chan /pol/, they'd identified some groups who were getting guys to post pics of themselves in thigh high socks and shit, "traps" basically, and then doxing them and threatening to out them to their parents. And to not get outed, they'd have to take this little magical pink pill and keep posting more pictures.

Fucking /leftypol/ degenerates.

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Pedeville 1 point ago +1 / -0

'Getting guys to post pics'

How do you 'get guys' to do that unless they wanna do it to begin with?

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TheGreenDutchman 1 point ago +1 / -0

How do you get people to try a cigarette, or weed, or maybe some pills, or eventually dealing drugs? Peer pressure. Note how I said they were targeting teenagers, young impressionable people.

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Pedeville 1 point ago +1 / -0

Peer pressure when you are their mates and in person, sure. Random people online on a messege board? C'mon man!

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TheGreenDutchman 1 point ago +1 / -0

Tons of kids these days with zero friends IRL and only online groups they're part of, more than ever. And how do you think pedos have been getting kids to meet them since the MSN days?

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Pedeville 1 point ago +1 / -0

By tricking them into thinking they're equal aged girls? Not by telling them to dress as women

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The_Don_Wonton 20 points ago +21 / -1

Aaron was a real champion for freedom of information. I have a hard time believing he killed himself, he was a major threat to the establishment, especially the ivy league schools.

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ConcernedFrenchFrog 17 points ago +17 / -0

The homocuck married to a manly dark lady? Ah yes.

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npcipede 4 points ago +4 / -0

Barry Soetoro?

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ConcernedFrenchFrog 1 point ago +1 / -0

lol Serena williams

Bet that she takes black anaconda in front of Ohanian ? https://i.imgur.com/C86SPNu.jpg

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DongSquad420 3 points ago +3 / -0

The other guys are joking, but for the people that don't know, he's married to one of the biggest karens in sports - serena williams

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FuckReddit4545 2 points ago +2 / -0

I remember this like it was yesterday. She really made a fool of herself, and I was happy to see her do it.

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ProphetOfKek 3 points ago +3 / -0

Are we talking about Barry?

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ConcernedFrenchFrog 2 points ago +2 / -0

Haha

Close! Serena Williams

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josiborg 14 points ago +14 / -0

There is only one true founder of reddit and he was murdered by deep state for wanting information to free and died for freedom of speech.

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bingobangobongo69 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm not going to trust random people to have proper encryption set-ups, let alone how easy it is for glowies to set up honeypots or infiltrate groups this way.

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FrankFrankFrank 4 points ago +4 / -0

I know communities that have used IRC and they have been successful in maintaining privacy and different rooms within the server. I think you could use Mibbit on mobile or other mobile applications for IRC.

mIRC is what I usually use on Windows

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beholdachair 0 points ago +3 / -3

i think people went with a matrix server at matrix.donaldsarmy.us

IRC is really outdated.

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zooty 2 points ago +2 / -0

And designed in a time when people understood the importance of decentralized networks and weren't rushing to prostrate themselves in front of companies vying for hegemonic control.

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beholdachair 0 points ago +2 / -2

except... no one is going to use it except some technerds.

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Doggos [M] [S] 13 points ago +13 / -0

Also, have you seriously considered making your own version of Discord?

Yes - and this would be preferable, but the problem with this is that messaging platforms REQUIRE mobile apps, and we all know that isn't happening.

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TheGreenDutchman 10 points ago +11 / -1

You don't have to make your own. That's the point of Element/Matrix: it's open source, has web and mobile apps, and you can run your actual own server. They did 99% of the work for youso you can have all the benefits of your "own version of discord" with none of the programming required.

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mintscape 8 points ago +8 / -0

I came here to suggest Element also.

Element can be self hosted and you can use their Android and iOS apps. I had my own Element server running a while back when it was called Riot.

Everything you say is 100% true and the obvious way to go.

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Doggos [M] [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Understood, it's definitely an option. However I don't believe that a Matrix instance is the solution for every community, and I want to find solutions for every community, not just this one.

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TheGreenDutchman 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'm not sure why it wouldn't be a solution for every community, especially as they still have the option to have them host your server like Discord does. But if nothing else; it's open source so if there's anything you think can be done better, you can fork it and add or change what you think needs changing. Sure beats starting from the ground up, unless you have some idea that's so radically different it'd be more work (such as a zeronet-based chat or something similar).

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TheGreenDutchman 4 points ago +4 / -0

Except for Telegram to be decent you have to enable E2E encryption instead of the standard one, and set it up to self destruct messages after some time. Which the same amouunt of users who can't sign up for Element aren't going to do. The solution here is for pedes to not be retarded, instead of making the software retard proof. Universe inventing bigger idiots, yada yada.

The people who run their own decentralized reddit alternative have the requirements for doing the same for a chat program, so that point is moot.

As for usability of the interface, pretty sure that improves all the time so it may already not be as bad as you remember. From what I see of Element, it's pretty similar to Discord in UI. I'm not a good judge of that anyhow, since my main use for talking to friends is using Matrix-commander instead and that runs in the terminal. I only suggest Element because it's closest to what people are already used to.

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DeveloperZee 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hmm that’s sounds like a UX problem more than anything. Started to dig into it now, but they seem to have decent api docs. You might get away with creating a simplified registration.

There target market hasn’t been the masses, so that’s most likely why there isn’t a simplified approach. Censorship and change and bring innovation to it.

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ValhallaGorilla 3 points ago +3 / -0

Telegram?

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Tallsie 3 points ago +3 / -0

I would argue that people check theDonald so often, that they don’t need a mobile app. A web based discord alternative would be quite active.

Also, did the mods get my message about users being able share/subscribe to other users saved lists as a mechanism for quickly finding facts and statistics for debates with leftist? You build a saved list for a topic, say like I have an Election Fraud folder and a Hunter Biden folder. If I need to quick find something I read on here months ago, I just go to the folder. Would be cool to let other users have access to those saved lists.

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krypt0 2 points ago +2 / -0

IRC would be useful to run an ops room that people that are on the ground in DC can come in and ask a question.

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DaesDaemar 1 point ago +1 / -0

Voice channels are important for small groups

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BasedInFact 0 points ago +1 / -1

Dooted, and a few thought of my own:

  • While a mobile app would be slick, I do nearly all of my Donalding on my phone, and it’s not the worst, not even close. It certainly doesn’t keep me from checking in far too often.
  • There are several sites/services that I use, and which have apps that I don’t have any plans to install, because I just don’t want to invite something unnecessary onto my phone, outside of my browser, that I don’t implicitly trust. TheDonald has never done me wrong, so if there, in the future was an app, barring some unforeseen Foxing of TDW, I’d be thrilled to install the app on my phone. Just don’t go Zuckerberg on us, site kings.
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DaesDaemar 1 point ago +1 / -0

Whatever you make, please let it be able to be hosted on your own hardware, like Teamspeak / Ventrillio.

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tokenninja 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hit me up - Maybe I can help with apps

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Dr0neRec0very 10 points ago +13 / -3

Even the name "Guilded" itself has a bad smell about it.

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Drawdraw45 0 points ago +1 / -1

Not really. The founder used to play a lot of MMOs and the intent was to help people find guilds/for guilds to organize & recruit new players.

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stjimmy92 4 points ago +4 / -0

Alexis is the one that literally cucked himself out of a job.

He quit his role at Reddit so that a minority could take his place.

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Yakub 5 points ago +7 / -2

Look into Telegram.

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acasper 5 points ago +5 / -0

We’re the ideological compatriots of Aaron. Alexis can go continue eating a dick.

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marshie_ 5 points ago +5 / -0

Doggos, we are fucking blessed to have you on our side. If you're ever in the Dallas area and need ammo and or housing/food, my door is always open to you.

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KingKobach 4 points ago +4 / -0

ATTENTION PEDES: I need your help brainstorming clips, images, and themes for a "Rubicon Don" video, to capture the mood of the moment. Remember The Lion (Trump Edit) from 2016? That was an incredible video. Now, imagine if we remade it?

There is so much potential material to work with. BLM-style riots, the Kenosha incident, voter & election observer intimidation, election fraud denial, Shepard smugly censoring Trump's speeches, choice cuts from Trump's speeches, aerial views of Trump supporter gatherings, Trump inspecting the troops, etc. There's no way I'm not missing something, which is why I'm reaching out here.

Share every cool idea, theme, or footage that's on your mind. Let's theorycraft how to weave them all into a coherent video. Bonus tips for happenings that were memory-holed. Hopefully with our collective knowledge, we can come up with something awe-inspiring during these interesting times. This video will have no duds.

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fishyPussy 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think this Scott Adams video is quite good and to the point:

https://streamable.com/epvmc5

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KingKobach 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, it has a good compilation of clips, at least when it comes to voter/pollwatcher intimidation.

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countryfirst108 4 points ago +4 / -0

Alexis is a soy twat who definitely let’s Serena bang him with a strap on. CMV.

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natas13 4 points ago +5 / -1

Longtime Pede here who is running a movement/think-tank that got banned several times off Discord, gave up on Discord entirely. Can vouch that Guilded is the closest thing as of now in terms of interface/design to Discord.

PROS: It's still very low level and used only for gaming, not as popular meaning you'd be UNDER THE RADAR - there are only 13 employees running it - no third party audits scanning etc... so you can establish a hub there as we did for our own group.

CONS: Their TOS is pretty shit, but if you keep it Unpublished and restricted to only access people here - and have a good Mod team you can safely use it to your advantage.

By no means is it a permanent solution but it functions for what is required currently. Until something better crops up.

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vudka 4 points ago +4 / -0

What is Aaron’s greatest achievement

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christianknight 4 points ago +4 / -0

Go for Keybase

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ShadowInv 3 points ago +3 / -0

Parler is funded by a Cambridge Analytica person right? The facebook/Obama people.

Also, the Aaron Schwartz kid wasn't a founder just a young employee as I remember.

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Troll 3 points ago +3 / -0

The fact that parler is pushed by the big names should be suspect enough. Most of those people are just wanting to advertise themselves for a buck. Notice how they never bring up websites that are community-founded? Ever notice that? Ever notice how all the eceleb twitter people never mention forums?

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Diotima 3 points ago +3 / -0

People use telegram, signal

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Vstablegenius45 3 points ago +3 / -0

If the app is not open source don't use it, at least with open source people can create a new project off the code if the devs go a bit crazy.

Skycoin has a telegram alternative in the works which will run over their encrypted Skywire meshnet.

Skywire is encrypted and secure, like TOR on steroids but much much faster and due to the way the network is they cannot use deep packet inspection due as each packet looks the same as each other and each node only knows a couple of hops so you cant find out where it is going either. It was based of years of research to build a internet that would work after nuclear war and hostile governments.

Skycoin team is really focused on making the internet a free place without censorship i may go on about them a lot but i feel like they are the only ones with the will and funds to make new apps like telegram, messenger etc and building a new faster and more secure internet.

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Pumpingiron_Patriot1 3 points ago +3 / -0

Wasn't Aaron against censorship?? Owners of reddit hated Aaron

Would be very interesting of what would be of reddit, if Aaron was alive

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Walther 3 points ago +3 / -0

discord is dog shit, use old school shit like mumble

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j0j0r0 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't want to self promote, but everyone at TDW is welcome on Den.social

Blockchain backed, has a good liberty and pro GEOTUS community in the politics Lair.

It rewards good content with payouts and rewards evaluators for voting in a prediction market.

Still in beta.

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Anon6992374 3 points ago +3 / -0

Does keybase support groups? 100% secure. Signal too, but signal works like WhatsApp so you have to share phone numbers.

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Postal 3 points ago +5 / -2

I thought Telegram was looking good? Is it not?

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scyenceFiction 3 points ago +3 / -0

Telegram's been compromised way too often.

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Postal 1 point ago +1 / -0

Let's just cut the cord... it's time. Sadly, I work in IT and I'm hoping that we cut it for a while to get things figured out and rid ourselves of the corrupt.

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AlaskaBear 3 points ago +3 / -0

Parler is another alternative owned by grabblers.

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Thecryptoclub 3 points ago +3 / -0

Rocket.Chat guys cmon get with the times

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UnidentifiedWhiteMan 2 points ago +2 / -0

The only good reddit founder is long dead.

RIP Aaron Swartz - co founder of reddit

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PDP-8 2 points ago +2 / -0

Aaron Swartz haunts everything Reddit does. Six year old Reddit post right after he killed himself.

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Ssue1216 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you Doggos! You never steer us wrong! ❤️🇺🇸🦅

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CentipedeDemon 2 points ago +2 / -0

Is Discord censoring conservatives? What's going on?

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UglyChump4Trump 2 points ago +2 / -0

As an American Armenian born in the states by parents that came here legally, shame on that piece of fucking piece of shit Ohanian. What a disgrace to real Armenians. Shitty Wikipedia says his grandparents migrated here because of the Armenian genocide and yet he is a leftist scumbag.. At least even Ana Kasparian is kinda waking up. Did u guys see she called out Chunk Uyger? Lol

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wildwm 2 points ago +2 / -0

Here is the skeleton code/basic idea to developing an app for us: https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/building-a-chat-application-with-mean-stack-637254d1136d/

Also found this, not sure how reliable it is: http://appsgeyser.com/create-own-messenger/

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Johnrgalt 2 points ago +2 / -0

I remember using TeamSpeak back in the day and it is still around.

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pepes_of_fire 2 points ago +2 / -0

and also Aaron who 'committed suicide' in 2013, and now Steve pretends never existed

Ah yes, the Stalin approach to friends.

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rikkyyy 2 points ago +2 / -0

never heard of it.

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Deemike 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, fuck Reddit. Only go there for memes, and ashamed that I do even that.

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slowmotrin 2 points ago +2 / -0

How is Aaron the worst of the Reddit founders though, wasn't he the most supportive of free speech? Not like that would really mean anything in modern day probably but still.

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Truglow 2 points ago +2 / -0

I was also booted out and I didnt even make a post. They are based out of San Fran so there you go.

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