Why are you so angry. Have you watched the video with the Sec of Def . Did he say that Trump was mentor to him? No he said Pence was. Pay attention what is going on.
Why are you so upset. I have been in TD.win for months and I have always been critical of Trump failure to reign in the DOJ and FBI. I think that is the main reason we are in this mess to begin with. He hired everyone if the people who are running these places and so he is responsible what happens there.
Pence is the one that has been running all the background stuff since he is not watched like Trump is and can act more discreetly.
I don't give a shit how long you've been here you're still a faggot who is only here to trash Trump. We've had anti-Trump shills here since 2015 so you being here for months is worthless if all you do is shit on Trump.
And NO! Pence isn't running the show you fucking idiot. TRUMP is the president you cuckservative piece of shit. Pence follows what Trump says.
He has no choice. It's either throw out this fraud of an election or the country is dead. Do not try to cope with "But 2024". If elections are rigged you only have the illusion of a republic.
Yep. This is something the semi moderate left can't seem to grasp. I've heard a number of them say "it's too late to fix this now even though it may have been a cheated election so we just have to fix it for 2022-24"
As long as it results in an instant Trump win, right there on Jan 6th, I'm fine with that. But he unequivocally WON those swing states, and to not get them seems wrong. Plus, I'm thinking we should be finished with "appearances" by this point.
Does anyone think Pence is compromised? Just remembering back to the George Bush funeral where only certain people got envelopes put in their folders. Pence received one as well.
The constitution says the president of the senate shall open and count the votes. There is legislation saying how they want it to be done, but that doesn't really matter if he just doesn't follow it.
The SCOUTUS has shown they don't want to be involved at all, and there's plenty of precedent now in ignoring lower court rulings. It's just a matter of will.
Well, it's COVID, so for everyone's safety he had to keep all the senators and reps a hundred feet away as he opens and counts the votes, they'll have to take his word for it what the ballots say.
He alone doesn't have the power to do this. It's misinformation that is setting up Pence for failure because of something he's not constitutionally able to do. In order for the votes to be contested, he must have support from one senator and one representative, who will then go to debate and vote. Both the House and the Senate must agree for the votes to be changed.
Does it have to be one of both for all votes in the entire election? Or one of both to contest all votes from the state they represent? Sometimes it feels like nobody has an idea how these things work.
I don't think it needs to be from the state representing the votes, just one from any representative and one from any senator. Then, the House and Senate go to debate and take a vote separately. Both must have a majority to actually overturn the certified vote.
So if we have 6 electoral votes from Nevada for Biden, and the dueling slate's 6 votes for Trump, we'd need one senator and one representative to challenge the state's votes as a whole. Then, if both the Senate and the House vote to use the Trump votes, they would be the ones counted, and the certified Biden votes would be tossed out. If the Senate and House do not agree, however, the certified votes are the ones counted.
One senator and one rep from Nevada? Also, the senate and house that votes is the whole thing, not only for Nevada, right? If this is the way you describe it we will need a lot more senators and representatives to achieve anything. Considering that some RINOs have already said the will back Biden it now feels this path is not even going to work.
In my example, any one senator and any one rep would need to object, not necessarily one from the state being contested. Anyone can object. And yes, it is the whole assembly that votes, not just individual states (but I believe the House gets one vote per state, not per rep, so even though there are 435 reps, there are only 50 votes).
I love Pence. Unfortunately because of him being VP he hasn't had many options to change real shit. This time he has the chance to save the world.
No you fucking faggot, Trump is in charge. Always has been you fucking idiot.
Nutted in my pants
Why are you so angry. Have you watched the video with the Sec of Def . Did he say that Trump was mentor to him? No he said Pence was. Pay attention what is going on.
Why did you delete your disrespectful comment about Trump?
You're only here to shit on Trump, go fuck yourself faggot. Go lick cuckservative nuts.
Why are you so upset. I have been in TD.win for months and I have always been critical of Trump failure to reign in the DOJ and FBI. I think that is the main reason we are in this mess to begin with. He hired everyone if the people who are running these places and so he is responsible what happens there.
Pence is the one that has been running all the background stuff since he is not watched like Trump is and can act more discreetly.
I don't give a shit how long you've been here you're still a faggot who is only here to trash Trump. We've had anti-Trump shills here since 2015 so you being here for months is worthless if all you do is shit on Trump.
And NO! Pence isn't running the show you fucking idiot. TRUMP is the president you cuckservative piece of shit. Pence follows what Trump says.
Don't be so angry and stop acting like a lefty. You have a nice day.
Why did you delete the post? You know why I'm upset, because you are shitting on Trump and acting like Pence is the real president.
But you deleted your post because you don't want to get exposed as an anti-Trump shill. Go kiss Ben Shapiro's nuts faggot.
He has no choice. It's either throw out this fraud of an election or the country is dead. Do not try to cope with "But 2024". If elections are rigged you only have the illusion of a republic.
Yep. This is something the semi moderate left can't seem to grasp. I've heard a number of them say "it's too late to fix this now even though it may have been a cheated election so we just have to fix it for 2022-24"
Let's hope Pence isn't Brutus.
"trunalimunumaprzure"
Could he simply count the R electors sent for those swing states, instead of the D's? Citing the same reasons: rampant, proven fraud.
appearance wise it would be best to just toss out the state as opposed to picking favorites
As long as it results in an instant Trump win, right there on Jan 6th, I'm fine with that. But he unequivocally WON those swing states, and to not get them seems wrong. Plus, I'm thinking we should be finished with "appearances" by this point.
Yes appearances at this point are essentially meaningless.
Does anyone think Pence is compromised? Just remembering back to the George Bush funeral where only certain people got envelopes put in their folders. Pence received one as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLIJ69rVtqM
Pence should just say the votes didn't arrive from those states and place them directly in the trash.
He alone cannot do it, or can he? He needs support from senators, and so on. If yes, the pressure must be kept on, or even increased, if possible.
The constitution says the president of the senate shall open and count the votes. There is legislation saying how they want it to be done, but that doesn't really matter if he just doesn't follow it.
The SCOUTUS has shown they don't want to be involved at all, and there's plenty of precedent now in ignoring lower court rulings. It's just a matter of will.
Well, it's COVID, so for everyone's safety he had to keep all the senators and reps a hundred feet away as he opens and counts the votes, they'll have to take his word for it what the ballots say.
Those are the rules, right?
I know this is the year of nobody does anything as it is supposed to be done, but will Pence follow suit?
He alone doesn't have the power to do this. It's misinformation that is setting up Pence for failure because of something he's not constitutionally able to do. In order for the votes to be contested, he must have support from one senator and one representative, who will then go to debate and vote. Both the House and the Senate must agree for the votes to be changed.
Does it have to be one of both for all votes in the entire election? Or one of both to contest all votes from the state they represent? Sometimes it feels like nobody has an idea how these things work.
I don't think it needs to be from the state representing the votes, just one from any representative and one from any senator. Then, the House and Senate go to debate and take a vote separately. Both must have a majority to actually overturn the certified vote.
So you have one senator and one representative, a grand total of two people to contest every single electoral vote one by one?
I believe it is by state, not one by one.
So if we have 6 electoral votes from Nevada for Biden, and the dueling slate's 6 votes for Trump, we'd need one senator and one representative to challenge the state's votes as a whole. Then, if both the Senate and the House vote to use the Trump votes, they would be the ones counted, and the certified Biden votes would be tossed out. If the Senate and House do not agree, however, the certified votes are the ones counted.
One senator and one rep from Nevada? Also, the senate and house that votes is the whole thing, not only for Nevada, right? If this is the way you describe it we will need a lot more senators and representatives to achieve anything. Considering that some RINOs have already said the will back Biden it now feels this path is not even going to work.
In my example, any one senator and any one rep would need to object, not necessarily one from the state being contested. Anyone can object. And yes, it is the whole assembly that votes, not just individual states (but I believe the House gets one vote per state, not per rep, so even though there are 435 reps, there are only 50 votes).
that's shit, they should rightfully go to Trump.
LMAO...that would be EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pence 2024!!!!
My tip of the hat tribute parody based on this post