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CovfefeNegro 0 points ago +1 / -1

Abe was not a good POTUS, he took the country into civil war for instance. He had a moment or two is all, his notion of repatriating all slaves/indentured servants being one such.

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Ganath 0 points ago +1 / -1

Lincoln was possibly the worst president we have had. Stop holding him up as some kind of hero. He wiped his ass with the constitution to maintain power and make the federal government more powerful. We are still fighting the effects of his overreach today. He granted himself authority the Constitution didn’t authorize. He had arms and property confiscated without due process. He had detractors (politicians, judges, newspaper owners, police commissioners/officers) arrested, and held without trial due to his suspension of habeas corpus. He declared war on his own people, without the consent of congress. What is the definition of treason again? He blockaded ports without the consent of congress. He levied troops without the consent of congress. He allowed his generals to commit what would be war crimes today by burning entire cities to the ground, stealing property, killing anyone that resisted, kidnapping women and children that were held prisoner until they were forcefully relocated. Some of those died of exposure or starvation during their incarceration and forced relocation. He was a tyrant and doesn’t deserve a single shred of praise. On top of all that he is also accused of using troops in the north for election intimidation. We are in the midst of a battle over election integrity and an overreaching federal government and you guys keep praising lincoln.

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Constantius 1 point ago +1 / -0

the confederacy nationalized all industry and banned the private ownership of firearms for everyone but military officers. Lincoln did not vastly expand the government all of those taxes went away after the war it was woodrow wilson and FDR that grew government not Lincoln. Trump needs to arrest politicans, judges, newspapers and police that stand in his way just the same they are ununiformed enemy combatants, Congress is full of commies we are at war with communists foreign and domestic. Burning entire cities to the ground may have to be done as well at least certain parts of them full of communists. Lincoln used troops to prevent mass scale voter fraud. Lincoln is the perfect example of what Trump needs to emulate war is war and Democrats will always try to destroy the nation as they did back then.

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Ganath 0 points ago +1 / -1

Strawman in the first sentence and complete misrepresentation in the second. I will not read any further.

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Ganath 0 points ago +1 / -1

Again, you strawman. Figure out how to stay on topic and we can talk. My comment had nothing to do with the southern government or socialism.

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Constantius 1 point ago +1 / -0

my point is that because of the circumstances it was justified

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Ganath 1 point ago +1 / -0

No it wasn’t. The constitution isn’t just something that can be set aside due to “circumstances.” Anyone that says that is suspect because that’s what the dims are doing right now with the “pandemic.” Are you ok with all the lockdown bullshit because of “circumstances?” The states the seceded felt that they were no longer being represented fairly in government.

“That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”

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Constantius 1 point ago +1 / -0

My point is that Trump should of declared all states that are in lockdowns to be in rebellion against the united states, there should be troops in liberal cities forcing their economy open. Cuomo, Whitmer, Newsom and every other Democratic governor is in rebellion against the united states. The elections in blue states are suspect for foreign supported treason, Any oathbreaker cop, any official that voted for these endless lockdowns are traitors, the media is controlled by communists many whom are foreign. Lincoln is being praised because he was using to use the boot to crush an evil and there is a very good argument for an order to every one of these democrat politicians to immediately resign or face execution. We are in a cold civil war, Why not crush it with an iron fist before they take over. I generally support arresting any citizen who is pro lockdown regardless of status.

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Ganath 0 points ago +1 / -1

The union is not a suicide pact. When the government no longer represents the people and abuses its authority it is time for either leaving or fighting. Lincoln grossly overreached his authority and violated the rights of thousands upon thousands of people to maintain control.