Sorry, kneejerk response. The mandate is completely unbacked by science and is a flagrant and inexcusable violation of personal rights. It boils my blood down to it's core. I'm so furious on a daily basis by all the fucking mask Nazis around here I'm seriously considering moving out of the state. This is not how Red States act.
I'm staying here. The entire country is cucked. Even Florida is still imposing masks at the local level which is essentially what we're doing here. Abbott's mask order is BS, but it has no teeth and no ability to enforce because they have the businesses enforcing it. That's everywhere around the country. As a nation, we need to start doing what OR did today and clean up our capitals. Force them to back off and fear the people.
It may not have teeth, but it's given license and legitimacy to completely unfounded and irrational fears and hysteria about Covid, which poses virtually zero risk to normal people under 60.
Where I am it's like 80% of people at fucking outdoor events are wearing masks, Do you have any idea how fucking idiotic that is? Wearing a mask which can't possibly filter something as small as a virus, outside in the open air, where there's next to zero probability of contracting a virus in the first place!
The mandate even without teeth has dramatically escalated the mass psychosis of an unfortunately very stupid, lazy and uneducated population. And I put the blame squarely at Abbott's feet for not having the spine to act on facts instead of fear.
I see exactly the same thing NE of Austin. Masks everywhere and I hope our legislature or supreme court has the wherewithal to challenge this crap. We put a lot of red there this year and they need to put a fight. Reverse this thing quickly. Texas should never be operating like this.
I've heard both. That businesses are still enforcing it everywhere but DeSantis told local municipalities that they can't enforce it with police and fine people. So it's basically like Texas. It's the businesses like Costco who are being the enforcement arm so people are still wearing them in many locations around the state. Maybe a FL pede can verify.
Exactly. The counties have threatened businesses to enforce mask mandates, Abbott rolled over on that one. The state mandate does nothing, but a business can tell you to put on a mask or leave and if you don’t do either they can call the cops and have you arrested for trespass.
Simple way around that is to pass a state law protecting individuals right to choose to wear PPE when they are not in a sterile environment like a hospital and making it illegal to discriminate against someone who chooses not to wear PPE in public outside of certain very clearly delineated areas.
We have a solid red legislature and don't see why they couldn't do that. Abbott needs to reverse all of this nonsense and be pressured to do that. I've written him but they are so worried about the local media and press. I've also seen that he has a health advisor who sound like FauXi when he talks about it.
The state mandate is unenforceable. The counties have forced businesses to enforce their mask mandate or risk losing their business. That’s how they got around Abbott’s EO that prohibited mask mandates by the county. Abbott gave up on that one.
I want to see our state go completely 180 degrees in the opposite direction of everything happening across the country. Revoke mask mandates, take away all of the business capacity restrictions and threaten to defund all local municipalities if they continue to run with mask or lockdown ordinances.
I'm all in but how do we get these stupid assholes to listen? These are the same idiots who insist we "follow the science" and then proceed to mandate things that could not be less scientific. I just don't know how we get through to people who clearly have no interest in facts.
Abbott showed his true colors when he locked down the state and forced small businesses to close forever. He further showed he was a puppet of the left when he passed that asinine mask mandate, which has been completely ineffective. He continues to show his allegiance to the left by refusing to address the obvious fraud by the COVID testing labs and hospitals mis-attributing deaths to COVID.
These kind of faux conservatism statements are meaningless. He promised to get tough on Austin for letting addicts run amok and he didn’t do it. We know who Greg Abbott really is!
To be fair to Abbott he also needs to appease some of the more.....liberal constituents.
I don't care about masks so long as we have an open economy while wearing them. The logic is if masks work why lockdown? So I will accept masks over lockdowns any day.
Sorry, but I don't accept any infringement on my liberty. Especially not to appease the irrational fears of idiots. Our freedoms are not conditional. We don't need to trade them to make someone else feel more comfortable, especially when none of it is based on any kind of evidence.
Are you fucking serious with this? The State has required businesses to comply so the business can punish you instead. How heroic. What Constitutional leadership. I have been harassed and kicked out of businesses for not wearing a mask, something that never happened until the STATE REQUIRED MASKS. Something no business would've risked doing to a customer until the STATE told them they could.
Fuck me, I don't get you fucking apologists defending this bullshit. This shit is inexcusable and attitudes like this are why we're standing on the edge of a global Marxist takeover.
"Oh, it's ok if they take a little bit of my freedom as long as they'll allow me to keep some of my other ones." We don't owe them any gratitude for only fucking us over a little bit. Our freedoms are not theirs to dictate, if you don't get that then you're part of the problem.
Masks DO NOT WORK. Read a study, it is impossible for them to block virus. Yet this is the reason they insist we wear them.
However, masks actually do cause a litany of other adverse health problems, especially if you have high blood pressure for instance. Do shirts do that? How about fucking shoes?
So you want to sit there and tell me obstructing your breathing, forcing you to engage in something that is scientifically known NOT to do what you're insisting you must do it for (stopping virus) on top of doing something that has known health risks... is the same thing as wearing shoes or clothes in a business?
The two could are not even comparable. This is straight up a bad faith argument and if you can't tell the difference between the two then you're not even worth bothering with.
I know one thing for sure. My rights are not safe with people like you around.
Who the fuck said anything about mask efficacy. There is no difference between expecting you to wear shoes or a mask other than the rational behind it. Both of which you can argue against but YOU STILL NEED TO WEAR FUCKING SHOES NO MATTER HOW WELL YOU PROVE YOU DON'T NEED TO.
Stop your fucking mental gymnastics.
If the state isn't punishing you for refusing to wear a mask your rights are not infringed.
Did you read that? Let's try again.
IF THE STATE ISN'T PUNISHING YOU FOR REFUSING TO WEAR A MASK YOUR RIGHTS ARE NOT INFRINGED.
That's how infringement works. In the same way your rights are not infringed by wearing shoes. This is a fact. This is reality. I don't give two shits about how butthurt you are being exposed to hard facts. Deal with it.
Read your fucking Constitution. It's idiots like you that don't even have a fucking clue what is going on or lack the principals to maintain a consistent position.
You're weak and it's that weakness that has brought us here.
Weak is your tired ass "no shoes, no service" argument. No business cities, or lives in fear that governmental authority will come busting in their establishment because a customer is barefoot.
They do however shriek like a bunch of scared bitches if you enter without a mask.
I get it, your mask is your security blanket and you're too afraid of being judged by random strangers if you take the big risk of going without it. Man up. The perceived dirty looks from the left are only those of jealousy for having the small courage to dismiss the manufactured absurdity that masks are need to walk 10 feet to a table.
Weak is your tired ass "no shoes, no service" argument. No business cities, or lives in fear that governmental authority will come busting in their establishment because a customer is barefoot. They do however shriek like a bunch of scared bitches if you enter without a mask.
They aren't doing that in Texas. How many business has been shit on for lack of mask compliance? In fact many don't even wear masks indoors. I thought you lived there? Sounds like a shill.
I get it, your mask is your security blanket and you're too afraid of being judged by random strangers if you take the big risk of going without it. Man up. The perceived dirty looks from the left are only those of jealousy for having the small courage to dismiss the manufactured absurdity that masks are need to walk 10 feet to a table.
I'm not pro mask. This is how monumentally dumb you are. Your own decisions reveal that you don't actually give two shits about "muh freedomz" because you still wear whatever the fuck a business tell you to wear. You just woke up one day and decided that despite the laundry list of rules you follow like a good little sheep with zero pushback that this is the one you're gonna man up on.
City police departments need to be replaced entirely by county sheriffs offices. Any police force that is at the beck and call of a marxist mayor and/or communist city councilors will be used to violate the Constitution, not uphold it.
When BLM was rioting earlier this year, DPD & APD sat on their asses and allowed those clowns to burn down our cities and beat people up. DPS came in and shut those fuckers down within hours. I respect them a lot more than big city police.
Once again, the fucking retarded-ass mayor and city council show their low IQ asses again by their move to defund APD. Supposedly this money was going to be made for more "health services" a.k.a. abortions...
Seriously, the inmates are running the asylum down there.
Oh, cops? You mean the people who pepper spray children and shoot LTL rounds at unarmed women trying to enter a public building? Those people? THOSE FUCKING SACK OF SHIT PEOPLE????
You're preaching to the choir here bud. I think she might. I was talking to my dad about it and he said "I think your sister is done with flaming Portland socialists." To which I replied "but dad, I thought she is a flaming Portland socialist."
Im in Texas, only place I wear a mask is when I walk into work and get my temp taken. Then walk out of the office into the warehouse and the mask comes off.
NOW RESCIND THE MASK MANDATE, ASSHOLE!
Sorry, kneejerk response. The mandate is completely unbacked by science and is a flagrant and inexcusable violation of personal rights. It boils my blood down to it's core. I'm so furious on a daily basis by all the fucking mask Nazis around here I'm seriously considering moving out of the state. This is not how Red States act.
Yes! Mask mandate is useless and needs to go.
I'm staying here. The entire country is cucked. Even Florida is still imposing masks at the local level which is essentially what we're doing here. Abbott's mask order is BS, but it has no teeth and no ability to enforce because they have the businesses enforcing it. That's everywhere around the country. As a nation, we need to start doing what OR did today and clean up our capitals. Force them to back off and fear the people.
It may not have teeth, but it's given license and legitimacy to completely unfounded and irrational fears and hysteria about Covid, which poses virtually zero risk to normal people under 60.
Where I am it's like 80% of people at fucking outdoor events are wearing masks, Do you have any idea how fucking idiotic that is? Wearing a mask which can't possibly filter something as small as a virus, outside in the open air, where there's next to zero probability of contracting a virus in the first place!
The mandate even without teeth has dramatically escalated the mass psychosis of an unfortunately very stupid, lazy and uneducated population. And I put the blame squarely at Abbott's feet for not having the spine to act on facts instead of fear.
I see exactly the same thing NE of Austin. Masks everywhere and I hope our legislature or supreme court has the wherewithal to challenge this crap. We put a lot of red there this year and they need to put a fight. Reverse this thing quickly. Texas should never be operating like this.
I was in fla and last I heard the gov prevented local gov from doing a mask order. Is that not true?
I've heard both. That businesses are still enforcing it everywhere but DeSantis told local municipalities that they can't enforce it with police and fine people. So it's basically like Texas. It's the businesses like Costco who are being the enforcement arm so people are still wearing them in many locations around the state. Maybe a FL pede can verify.
Exactly. The counties have threatened businesses to enforce mask mandates, Abbott rolled over on that one. The state mandate does nothing, but a business can tell you to put on a mask or leave and if you don’t do either they can call the cops and have you arrested for trespass.
Simple way around that is to pass a state law protecting individuals right to choose to wear PPE when they are not in a sterile environment like a hospital and making it illegal to discriminate against someone who chooses not to wear PPE in public outside of certain very clearly delineated areas.
We have a solid red legislature and don't see why they couldn't do that. Abbott needs to reverse all of this nonsense and be pressured to do that. I've written him but they are so worried about the local media and press. I've also seen that he has a health advisor who sound like FauXi when he talks about it.
Commies wear masks.
The state mandate is unenforceable. The counties have forced businesses to enforce their mask mandate or risk losing their business. That’s how they got around Abbott’s EO that prohibited mask mandates by the county. Abbott gave up on that one.
I want to see our state go completely 180 degrees in the opposite direction of everything happening across the country. Revoke mask mandates, take away all of the business capacity restrictions and threaten to defund all local municipalities if they continue to run with mask or lockdown ordinances.
I'm all in but how do we get these stupid assholes to listen? These are the same idiots who insist we "follow the science" and then proceed to mandate things that could not be less scientific. I just don't know how we get through to people who clearly have no interest in facts.
Do what OR did today at their capital.
Abbott showed his true colors when he locked down the state and forced small businesses to close forever. He further showed he was a puppet of the left when he passed that asinine mask mandate, which has been completely ineffective. He continues to show his allegiance to the left by refusing to address the obvious fraud by the COVID testing labs and hospitals mis-attributing deaths to COVID.
These kind of faux conservatism statements are meaningless. He promised to get tough on Austin for letting addicts run amok and he didn’t do it. We know who Greg Abbott really is!
To be fair to Abbott he also needs to appease some of the more.....liberal constituents.
I don't care about masks so long as we have an open economy while wearing them. The logic is if masks work why lockdown? So I will accept masks over lockdowns any day.
If the state is not punishing you for refusing to wear a mask then the state is still respecting your constitutional rights.
Sorry, but I don't accept any infringement on my liberty. Especially not to appease the irrational fears of idiots. Our freedoms are not conditional. We don't need to trade them to make someone else feel more comfortable, especially when none of it is based on any kind of evidence.
It's only an infringement if the state enforces it. That's how an infringement works.
Are you fucking serious with this? The State has required businesses to comply so the business can punish you instead. How heroic. What Constitutional leadership. I have been harassed and kicked out of businesses for not wearing a mask, something that never happened until the STATE REQUIRED MASKS. Something no business would've risked doing to a customer until the STATE told them they could.
Fuck me, I don't get you fucking apologists defending this bullshit. This shit is inexcusable and attitudes like this are why we're standing on the edge of a global Marxist takeover.
"Oh, it's ok if they take a little bit of my freedom as long as they'll allow me to keep some of my other ones." We don't owe them any gratitude for only fucking us over a little bit. Our freedoms are not theirs to dictate, if you don't get that then you're part of the problem.
What a dumb fucking attitude.
Jesus Christ. This is such a false equivalency.
Masks DO NOT WORK. Read a study, it is impossible for them to block virus. Yet this is the reason they insist we wear them.
However, masks actually do cause a litany of other adverse health problems, especially if you have high blood pressure for instance. Do shirts do that? How about fucking shoes?
So you want to sit there and tell me obstructing your breathing, forcing you to engage in something that is scientifically known NOT to do what you're insisting you must do it for (stopping virus) on top of doing something that has known health risks... is the same thing as wearing shoes or clothes in a business?
The two could are not even comparable. This is straight up a bad faith argument and if you can't tell the difference between the two then you're not even worth bothering with.
I know one thing for sure. My rights are not safe with people like you around.
Who the fuck said anything about mask efficacy. There is no difference between expecting you to wear shoes or a mask other than the rational behind it. Both of which you can argue against but YOU STILL NEED TO WEAR FUCKING SHOES NO MATTER HOW WELL YOU PROVE YOU DON'T NEED TO.
Stop your fucking mental gymnastics.
If the state isn't punishing you for refusing to wear a mask your rights are not infringed.
Did you read that? Let's try again.
IF THE STATE ISN'T PUNISHING YOU FOR REFUSING TO WEAR A MASK YOUR RIGHTS ARE NOT INFRINGED.
That's how infringement works. In the same way your rights are not infringed by wearing shoes. This is a fact. This is reality. I don't give two shits about how butthurt you are being exposed to hard facts. Deal with it.
Fuck off back to Facebook quisling.
It's assholes like you that will turn Texas into California.
We've been more than fair to Abbott. He's a RINO Republican through and through.
Read your fucking Constitution. It's idiots like you that don't even have a fucking clue what is going on or lack the principals to maintain a consistent position.
You're weak and it's that weakness that has brought us here.
I have. You're the weakling muttering "this is fine" as our freedoms are being chipped away. Fuck off back to Facebook.
Are you're shoes fine as well? No shirt no shoes no service. Where's "muh freedoms" there?
YOU
ARE
WEAK
No internal logic or principals. Garbage.
Weak is your tired ass "no shoes, no service" argument. No business cities, or lives in fear that governmental authority will come busting in their establishment because a customer is barefoot.
They do however shriek like a bunch of scared bitches if you enter without a mask.
I get it, your mask is your security blanket and you're too afraid of being judged by random strangers if you take the big risk of going without it. Man up. The perceived dirty looks from the left are only those of jealousy for having the small courage to dismiss the manufactured absurdity that masks are need to walk 10 feet to a table.
They aren't doing that in Texas. How many business has been shit on for lack of mask compliance? In fact many don't even wear masks indoors. I thought you lived there? Sounds like a shill.
I'm not pro mask. This is how monumentally dumb you are. Your own decisions reveal that you don't actually give two shits about "muh freedomz" because you still wear whatever the fuck a business tell you to wear. You just woke up one day and decided that despite the laundry list of rules you follow like a good little sheep with zero pushback that this is the one you're gonna man up on.
Not my problem you're a weak hypocrite.
City police departments need to be replaced entirely by county sheriffs offices. Any police force that is at the beck and call of a marxist mayor and/or communist city councilors will be used to violate the Constitution, not uphold it.
TX got both, dawg.
In seattle, they just got rid of the ability for the people to elect the Sherrif and is now in control of the elites on the council
I wish they'd secede instead. It's time.
When BLM was rioting earlier this year, DPD & APD sat on their asses and allowed those clowns to burn down our cities and beat people up. DPS came in and shut those fuckers down within hours. I respect them a lot more than big city police.
DPS is very well trained and capable and historically speaking have done a great job shutting down riots.
Once again, the fucking retarded-ass mayor and city council show their low IQ asses again by their move to defund APD. Supposedly this money was going to be made for more "health services" a.k.a. abortions...
Seriously, the inmates are running the asylum down there.
Absolutely glorious.
bumsaddictsFTFY
They already do...
As a Texan, let Austin burn. It’s the only way some people learn.
We're Texas, we should be doing what the Oregonians did today at their capital. Clean up the capital and get them on track.
Not the city....the people.
Agreed, Austin is a los. Move those resources down to SA before they are fully compromised.
You know Austin has election shenanigans this year?
That city council may not be legitimate!
https://thedonald.win/p/11PpYf1qSM/austin-tx-gop-poll-watchers-kept/c/
Unless Austin actually pays for it they should tell them to go fuck themselves. Why the fuck does abbot think I want to subsidize Austin?
Oh, cops? You mean the people who pepper spray children and shoot LTL rounds at unarmed women trying to enter a public building? Those people? THOSE FUCKING SACK OF SHIT PEOPLE????
Yes, do it. My sister's drunken roommate tried to burst his way into her room and it took the police 45 minutes to get there.
Your sister should buy a gun.
You're preaching to the choir here bud. I think she might. I was talking to my dad about it and he said "I think your sister is done with flaming Portland socialists." To which I replied "but dad, I thought she is a flaming Portland socialist."
"Not after living with them she ain't."
So there is hope for her yet.
Former lefties are like ex-smokers, they can't stand the smell of their past habits.
Whenever someone coughs/sneezes/yells/etc., just hold your breath for a few seconds
Im in Texas, only place I wear a mask is when I walk into work and get my temp taken. Then walk out of the office into the warehouse and the mask comes off.
Good, fuck my home town