Civil War is like a gun. It's the absolute last resort. You have to exhaust all other options before using it because there's no going back. Trump is really trying to get them to see that before it's too late. They don't understand that unless they suddenly "discover" the evidence of fraud and overturn the election things are going to get bloody fast. He is trying to save America in its current form for better or worse. He's giving them every chance to do so because he cannot stop what comes next.
Why? Because "The United States of America" won't exist in its current form after a civil war. It didn't after the war between the colonies and the empire. It didn't after the war between the union and the confederacy. Hundreds of thousands of men died in a bloody war. Things would not return like they did before. After the revolution the colonies were no longer part of the empire. After the civil war the "states" were no longer independent run entities but little regions of one consolidated nation.
Thinking "oop we'll have a civil war then go back to good old American apple pie" is delusional. "America" as the country you know and knew will be gone. Something else will exist in its place. That is the reality of war.
Just like a gun, civil war is a tool. You will be happy to have it when you need it. You had better have it when you need it. But it's not something you want to pull out until you absolutely need to. Because life changes forever once that trigger is pulled.
This. There is no going back to the way things were, but 1789 was better than 1773, and 1876 was better than 1860, and there is a pretty good chance that 2030 will be better than 2020. The Revolutionary war was a civil war you know. Civil war years are harrowing. We don't know how this will end if we fight, and we only have an idea (a pretty good one) of how things will go if we don't. But fighting a civil war requires a lot more than willingness. There's questions of organization, leadership, logistics, intel, and no one is really ready.
If there's a civil war it will not start on January 6, and it may not even start in 2021. If there's a civil war it will be like the last time: States deciding to fight. Texas has its own military apart from the national guard, and it's the only State to have that. Texas also has a Federal Reserve bank, and say what you like about the Fed, but having one in your pocket is a big deal if you want to fight a war.
If there's a civil war, it will start in Texas or Florida.
Precisely. Most of our food comes from overseas. What little we grow domestically will be dwarfed by the supply sent in by the CCP and globalist alliance.
CCP is having a lot of food issues of their own right now. huge crop failures and high pork prices. Not exactly famine levels but not enough to supply half of america with food too.
Never. A seperated union would be at the mercy of larger powers such as the CCP, if the US is to maintain it's presence and power on the world stage, a civil war is what is required.
A big issue with that, is if a civil war happens powers outside the USA will also begin taking actions to exploit it. If we have a civil war, I genuinely expect the CCP to get militarily involved with one side.
CA, NY, NJ all have many Trump supporters. We’d all be shipped off to the gulags when the CCP takes control of the disunited states. And then it would leave the interior open to harvesting. Coastal Pedes are the literal last line of defense against China.
I hate to break it to you but you are all naive. If Trump does not pull of fixing this election fraud now, we have no choice. We can NEVER EVER trust another US election after this.
We don’t need a Civil War. We need a civil disposal, taken into our own hands.
For sure. Blame Trump for being all talk and no action. He promised to drain the Swamp and now is his chance to do something after refusing to lock up known criminals for four years. It's time to put his money where his mouth is instead of screaming deep state and then not acting. We all know what the crimes were. Arrest them.
People also don’t realize that if America commits to a Civil War in this era it will absolutely gut our economy meaning no matter who “wins” China becomes the world’s new economic superpower. That is the plan and the “China model” will be hailed as the second coming of true prosperity. The history that will be written decades from now, if this future comes to pass, will use America as THE prime example of why individualism and liberty are folly.
Economies can be rebuilt in fairly short order provided a good system is in place; e.g. recovery of Germany and Japan after WWII. Ultimately, history has shown that socialist economics is more damaging to a country's economy than civil war in a market economy.
Civil War is like a gun. It's the absolute last resort. You have to exhaust all other options before using it because there's no going back. Trump is really trying to get them to see that before it's too late. They don't understand that unless they suddenly "discover" the evidence of fraud and overturn the election things are going to get bloody fast. He is trying to save America in its current form for better or worse. He's giving them every chance to do so because he cannot stop what comes next.
Why? Because "The United States of America" won't exist in its current form after a civil war. It didn't after the war between the colonies and the empire. It didn't after the war between the union and the confederacy. Hundreds of thousands of men died in a bloody war. Things would not return like they did before. After the revolution the colonies were no longer part of the empire. After the civil war the "states" were no longer independent run entities but little regions of one consolidated nation.
Thinking "oop we'll have a civil war then go back to good old American apple pie" is delusional. "America" as the country you know and knew will be gone. Something else will exist in its place. That is the reality of war.
Just like a gun, civil war is a tool. You will be happy to have it when you need it. You had better have it when you need it. But it's not something you want to pull out until you absolutely need to. Because life changes forever once that trigger is pulled.
This. There is no going back to the way things were, but 1789 was better than 1773, and 1876 was better than 1860, and there is a pretty good chance that 2030 will be better than 2020. The Revolutionary war was a civil war you know. Civil war years are harrowing. We don't know how this will end if we fight, and we only have an idea (a pretty good one) of how things will go if we don't. But fighting a civil war requires a lot more than willingness. There's questions of organization, leadership, logistics, intel, and no one is really ready.
If there's a civil war it will not start on January 6, and it may not even start in 2021. If there's a civil war it will be like the last time: States deciding to fight. Texas has its own military apart from the national guard, and it's the only State to have that. Texas also has a Federal Reserve bank, and say what you like about the Fed, but having one in your pocket is a big deal if you want to fight a war.
If there's a civil war, it will start in Texas or Florida.
The strongest weapon in a war is food.
Unlike previous times in history, big multinational corporations control the food supply.
Thats what worries me.
Precisely. Most of our food comes from overseas. What little we grow domestically will be dwarfed by the supply sent in by the CCP and globalist alliance.
CCP is having a lot of food issues of their own right now. huge crop failures and high pork prices. Not exactly famine levels but not enough to supply half of america with food too.
I live in a flyover state, we grow or raise a lot of our own food here so I'm not too worried about that. Cities would be in trouble...
And if it comes down to it, a peaceful, negotiated disunion would still be preferable to a civil war.
Never. A seperated union would be at the mercy of larger powers such as the CCP, if the US is to maintain it's presence and power on the world stage, a civil war is what is required.
A big issue with that, is if a civil war happens powers outside the USA will also begin taking actions to exploit it. If we have a civil war, I genuinely expect the CCP to get militarily involved with one side.
CA, NY, NJ all have many Trump supporters. We’d all be shipped off to the gulags when the CCP takes control of the disunited states. And then it would leave the interior open to harvesting. Coastal Pedes are the literal last line of defense against China.
Also we have our own electrical grid.
1773 or 1774, yes. Given how much Americans put up with so far in 2020, I think it may be a while before we get to 1776.
I hate to break it to you but you are all naive. If Trump does not pull of fixing this election fraud now, we have no choice. We can NEVER EVER trust another US election after this.
We don’t need a Civil War. We need a civil disposal, taken into our own hands.
His recent tweet: "I Just want the world to stop killing itself"
It was both literal and metaphorical.
I agree. We can only hope that he won’t leave us hanging. But if that slimey psychotic Joe Biden still holds reign, you know what to do...
For sure. Blame Trump for being all talk and no action. He promised to drain the Swamp and now is his chance to do something after refusing to lock up known criminals for four years. It's time to put his money where his mouth is instead of screaming deep state and then not acting. We all know what the crimes were. Arrest them.
We wait till the 6th. We prepare until then
People also don’t realize that if America commits to a Civil War in this era it will absolutely gut our economy meaning no matter who “wins” China becomes the world’s new economic superpower. That is the plan and the “China model” will be hailed as the second coming of true prosperity. The history that will be written decades from now, if this future comes to pass, will use America as THE prime example of why individualism and liberty are folly.
Economies can be rebuilt in fairly short order provided a good system is in place; e.g. recovery of Germany and Japan after WWII. Ultimately, history has shown that socialist economics is more damaging to a country's economy than civil war in a market economy.