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tdwinner2020 55 points ago +55 / -0

This. There is no going back to the way things were, but 1789 was better than 1773, and 1876 was better than 1860, and there is a pretty good chance that 2030 will be better than 2020. The Revolutionary war was a civil war you know. Civil war years are harrowing. We don't know how this will end if we fight, and we only have an idea (a pretty good one) of how things will go if we don't. But fighting a civil war requires a lot more than willingness. There's questions of organization, leadership, logistics, intel, and no one is really ready.

If there's a civil war it will not start on January 6, and it may not even start in 2021. If there's a civil war it will be like the last time: States deciding to fight. Texas has its own military apart from the national guard, and it's the only State to have that. Texas also has a Federal Reserve bank, and say what you like about the Fed, but having one in your pocket is a big deal if you want to fight a war.

If there's a civil war, it will start in Texas or Florida.

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vacu 30 points ago +30 / -0

The strongest weapon in a war is food.

Unlike previous times in history, big multinational corporations control the food supply.

Thats what worries me.

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shadows_of_the_mind 11 points ago +11 / -0

Precisely. Most of our food comes from overseas. What little we grow domestically will be dwarfed by the supply sent in by the CCP and globalist alliance.

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blahm3 12 points ago +12 / -0

CCP is having a lot of food issues of their own right now. huge crop failures and high pork prices. Not exactly famine levels but not enough to supply half of america with food too.

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shadows_of_the_mind 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hope it continues to fail just like their styrofoam bridges

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Nori 2 points ago +2 / -0

I live in a flyover state, we grow or raise a lot of our own food here so I'm not too worried about that. Cities would be in trouble...

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shaven_llama 6 points ago +9 / -3

And if it comes down to it, a peaceful, negotiated disunion would still be preferable to a civil war.

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UtahBeach 11 points ago +13 / -2

Never. A seperated union would be at the mercy of larger powers such as the CCP, if the US is to maintain it's presence and power on the world stage, a civil war is what is required.

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UtahBeach 7 points ago +7 / -0

No, the interlopers get the bullet or the bayonet and then their property given to patriots to oversee and grow. That's how it was done since before our country left the Empire all the way up to the Spanish-American War.

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America1stAndOnly 4 points ago +5 / -1

And what will you do with the millions of socialists, who will still be voting after your supposed civil war?

If I fight a war against them, what makes you think I'll let them vote when I win? Records will be checked. Anyone who voted for biden will be stripped of their rights, at a minimum. As the guy above said, things would not go back to how they were.

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onceuponaflagstaff 1 point ago +1 / -0

Basically do a “reconstruction” to them as they did to the south.

Forced labor camps, military governments in lefty states, Andersonville.

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zedrexvsyrex 1 point ago +2 / -1

Then we take care of them like you said. But not by breaking up the Union. We will cease to be a world power otherwise.

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RaisingPhoenix 1 point ago +1 / -0

A big issue with that, is if a civil war happens powers outside the USA will also begin taking actions to exploit it. If we have a civil war, I genuinely expect the CCP to get militarily involved with one side.

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shadows_of_the_mind 4 points ago +5 / -1

CA, NY, NJ all have many Trump supporters. We’d all be shipped off to the gulags when the CCP takes control of the disunited states. And then it would leave the interior open to harvesting. Coastal Pedes are the literal last line of defense against China.

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MajorTom 2 points ago +2 / -0

Also we have our own electrical grid.

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tdwinner2020 1 point ago +1 / -0

1773 or 1774, yes. Given how much Americans put up with so far in 2020, I think it may be a while before we get to 1776.

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TheRealPizzaPope 1 point ago +1 / -0

I hate to break it to you but you are all naive. If Trump does not pull of fixing this election fraud now, we have no choice. We can NEVER EVER trust another US election after this.

We don’t need a Civil War. We need a civil disposal, taken into our own hands.