To me it seems odd. Basically any outgoing VP can simply do this if his side didn’t win. He could just make up some BS about the states he needs to win. Obviously this year is different with all the cheating but seems too easy. We shall see. If it’s possible he needs to do it. Fuck them.
Well, considering for the first time in over 125 yrs states have sent multiple electors... I do not see a big stretch of the VP refusing all of them - keeping either candidate from reaching 270.
First of all, if a VP did that without good reason they would just be impeached. They are still held accountable to the people. Second, if he does this to change the outcome, it just goes to the house to vote by state delegation as no candidate would have 270. So again, it goes to the representatives to make the call and isn't just in the hands of one person with no accountability or checks and balances. This seems like another safeguard intended for extreme circumstances like we find ourselves in today. They have broken through many layers of protections already, let's see if they can break through them all or if we will hold the line.
No, you MUST have grounds to do this. Simply claiming fraud will not let you be able to do this. Fraud nullifies everything and we've demenstrated a litany of it, we've pulled out all the stops. It was a great performance, let's see him follow through. The only man I trust right now is Trump, until I see action, not words, from Pence.
so you're one of those people who thinks hoping and wishing makes a difference what other people with power and authority do? i see.
it's kind of sick how you people have called people "doomers" left and right when we tried to warn you that this or that kraken or MOAB or court case wouldn't give us a win, and time and time again we turned out to be correct and you idiots turned out to be wrong. you seem to think your feelings affect outcomes and time and time again you never learn.
Never have I used that term but feel free to think as you will. I take these news with a grain of salt but don't automatically rule them invalid. Seems as though you have a problem with my level of optimism and that's your own problem.
Is the memo real? It’s a game changer if it is.
I do not know. I hope so. Seems easy to find out - except I am playing in bed when I should be asleep, lol.
To me it seems odd. Basically any outgoing VP can simply do this if his side didn’t win. He could just make up some BS about the states he needs to win. Obviously this year is different with all the cheating but seems too easy. We shall see. If it’s possible he needs to do it. Fuck them.
Well, considering for the first time in over 125 yrs states have sent multiple electors... I do not see a big stretch of the VP refusing all of them - keeping either candidate from reaching 270.
I hope you are right
None of them are official until accepted by Congress. Pence has the authority and obligation to not accept them as the states are contested.
100% supported by the Constitution. Sorry, doomer.
First of all, if a VP did that without good reason they would just be impeached. They are still held accountable to the people. Second, if he does this to change the outcome, it just goes to the house to vote by state delegation as no candidate would have 270. So again, it goes to the representatives to make the call and isn't just in the hands of one person with no accountability or checks and balances. This seems like another safeguard intended for extreme circumstances like we find ourselves in today. They have broken through many layers of protections already, let's see if they can break through them all or if we will hold the line.
No, you MUST have grounds to do this. Simply claiming fraud will not let you be able to do this. Fraud nullifies everything and we've demenstrated a litany of it, we've pulled out all the stops. It was a great performance, let's see him follow through. The only man I trust right now is Trump, until I see action, not words, from Pence.
It is wishful thinking.
We're gonna need some more energy from you Bo.
so you're one of those people who thinks hoping and wishing makes a difference what other people with power and authority do? i see.
it's kind of sick how you people have called people "doomers" left and right when we tried to warn you that this or that kraken or MOAB or court case wouldn't give us a win, and time and time again we turned out to be correct and you idiots turned out to be wrong. you seem to think your feelings affect outcomes and time and time again you never learn.
Never have I used that term but feel free to think as you will. I take these news with a grain of salt but don't automatically rule them invalid. Seems as though you have a problem with my level of optimism and that's your own problem.