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Cross_The_Rubicon 8 points ago +8 / -0

I may not be a libertarian anymore, but that man..... that man has a special place....

Glad I voted for him

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MNMathtic 5 points ago +6 / -1

Being a libertarian is different from being a Libertarian. Just bc you're not part of the party doesn't mean you lost those principles and ideals of libertarianism. I think ppl like you are a big part of the driving force in MAGA right now, and I find myself moving in the libertarian direction as the years go by.

Glad to be on the same team with you.

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Cross_The_Rubicon 7 points ago +8 / -1

Well, my libertarian principles have all but vanished. I learned people will never leave each other alone, same for nations. I also learned the globalist communists want me dead, my history erased, my future children enslaved or on hormone blockers.

I will not stand for this and I will not endorse principles that allow this either.

The rewards for tolerance are treachery and betrayal.

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ca18det 4 points ago +5 / -1

Libertarianism is to liberty what communism is to social welfare. In principal both are laudable, in practice both are contrary to human nature. The free market will succomb to monopolies, robber barons, and a Koch style global race to the bottom if left unchecked due to human greed the same way top down control economies will lead to starvation amd authoritarianism as the most ruthless rise to the top.

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MNMathtic 2 points ago +3 / -1

I think I agree with you, but I'm not sure. I would say that the problem is when people apply a purity test to libertarianism and are unwilling to recognize reality and won't compromise.

You can still maintain libertarian principles that inform your decisions about how you lead your daily life, voting, business practices, etc without ignoring reality. Here are some examples:

Free market is good, but monopolistic practices are bad so we need laws that oppose robber barons.

Nation-building is bad, but we need to defend ourselves against our enemies so an army is necessary for that purpose.

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Tendies_or_GTFO 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nailed it.

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Anticommie_injection 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is masterfully said with so few plain words but clear meaning. I hope more people will see this. Doctrinaire libertarianism means we all guard our houses as our castle, and watch as each one of us is ground down and defeated separately. People that would tell you smugly they don't vote or they "calibrated" their votes are just statistically surrendering to the left.

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Tendies_or_GTFO 4 points ago +4 / -0

I used consider myself a "small l libertarian", much in the sense we think of Ron Paul. The problem with that, for me, came with the association with the Libertarian party, which is filled with nonsense ideas that ignore human nature just as much as socialism does.