2334 () posted 112 days ago by stevejobs871 112 days ago by stevejobs871 +2334 / -0 180 comments share 180 comments share save hide report block hide child comments Comments (180) sorted by: top new old worst You're viewing a single comment thread. View all comments, or full comment thread. ▲ 3 ▼ – Bronski 3 points 112 days ago +3 / -0 Please read Constitution Article 1, Section 7, second paragraph. permalink save report block reply ▲ 4 ▼ – T-Bear 4 points 112 days ago +4 / -0 This is dead on Constitutional grounds. However, there is precedence for these unConstitutional budget bills coming from the Senate. It was the Senate version of Obamacare, not the House version, which ultimately passed. When taken to SCOTUS, good ol' John Roberts declared the mandate a TAX. This had the effect of declaring this to be a TAX bill originating from the Senate, and not the House, like the Constitution states it ought to be. permalink parent save report block reply ▲ 2 ▼ – Bronski 2 points 112 days ago +2 / -0 I did some research. The Bill originated in the House, with Senate amendments. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/hr133 permalink parent save report block reply ▲ 2 ▼ – T-Bear 2 points 112 days ago +2 / -0 I just saw that. I was reported else where as having originated in the Senate, with some House amendments. I checked Trump's veto - it states it originated in the House. I will stand corrected on this point. permalink save report block reply ▲ 3 ▼ – Bronski 3 points 112 days ago +3 / -0 Not a big deal. I also was unsure. They try to hide this stuff and it takes lots of digging. permalink parent save report block reply
Please read Constitution Article 1, Section 7, second paragraph.
This is dead on Constitutional grounds.
However, there is precedence for these unConstitutional budget bills coming from the Senate.
It was the Senate version of Obamacare, not the House version, which ultimately passed.
When taken to SCOTUS, good ol' John Roberts declared the mandate a TAX.
This had the effect of declaring this to be a TAX bill originating from the Senate, and not the House, like the Constitution states it ought to be.
I did some research. The Bill originated in the House, with Senate amendments. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/hr133
I just saw that. I was reported else where as having originated in the Senate, with some House amendments.
I checked Trump's veto - it states it originated in the House.
I will stand corrected on this point.
Not a big deal. I also was unsure. They try to hide this stuff and it takes lots of digging.