One of my friends ran a restaurant and he lost everything because of the government.
I get the "bootstraps" mentality, but Jesus Christ there's a difference between a gender studies dropout playing Fortnite 14 hours a day and someone who lost everything because of government stupidity.
Take one for the team. For every decent person like yourself, there's at least 2 communists who'd lose their right to vote. By you sacrificing your right to vote, the end result is MAGA all the time. You wouldn't need to vote and you'd get what you wanted politically always thanks to your sacrifice.
No. Our right to vote should never have a price tag on it. It's a freedom bestowed on us by the Constitution. Putting a price tag on it is something a liberal would do.
Universal suffrage was not in the constitution for a reason, because it's one of the worst things you can do to a society. This is just a way to cleanup the voting system so that we have more decent people voting as opposed to communists.
Voting already has a price tag. The democrats keep buying votes. Even Trump attempted to buy the black vote. This exchange removes the price tag from voting because only people who can't be bought will be allowed to vote.
Yeah, I've heard a few people mention this. I believe the full conspiracy is that the plan is to force people/governments into so much debt that the globalists offer a trade. Your ability to own capital in exchange for having no debt. You're given a stipend (UBI) as well for this trade. To many people it seems great but essentially you're capping your upper-end earning potential for an annuity that for most people will actually end in a worse existence than if they worked in a capitalist system.
I still haven't figured out how the system forces people to work, perhaps through a point system based on productivity in order to gain small insignificant differences like better clothes or vehicles etc... but it's just a conspiracy after all.
It does seem like the powers in the world are working toward a two-class system.
The upper-class who are full of all the people who actually do things in society.
The lower-class who are full of people who just exist.
I think the upper-class is actually in a bit of a war with itself on how best to deal with the lower-class. You have the heart in the right place but have no clue about anything elites who think giving a minimum standard of living to the lower-class and keeping them around no different than how we treat our cats and dogs is best. Then you have the elites who think if the lower-class add no value to society they shouldn't exist. The former is winning but only because the latter is plotting behind the scenes. The former types really don't understand human nature, at all.
Realistically we're speculating still a long ways away. I think what we're seeing is a natural correction due to the environmental factors at play. Educators western peasants are having significantly less children because of xyz reason. The reason is imo the environmental factors of our society. No one who is a slave truly wants to bring up kids into servitude. Even if people don't understand they are in fact slaves, there's a lack of love, compassion and joy in our society because of people's servitude. This environmental factor leads to less children. Since we have abortions, birth control and have turned women into wage slaves instead of wives and mothers, people are having less children. The birth rates in most western countries are now less than the sustainable rate. The only reason populations are going up globally and in western countries is because of Africa/Middle-East and immigration. That's why the elite are so focused on educating women, promoting women's rights, etc... because it brings birth rates down.
There won't need to be a robot war. Over time, we'll naturally reduce our population because the lower class's life as of now even is not one that promotes healthy families and relationships. The more enslaved we become, the less we want to have kids. It'll just be a natural process were the lower class dwindles away. This is preferable to the elite because such a process is too subtle for the average person to realize what's going on.
Sorry, usually in these discussions I take the shortcut that everyone knows the real meaning behind "owning nothing". It really means you aren't allowed to own the means of production and land. No businesses. You can own your pants and perhaps even your car (this one is questionable) but you won't be able to own a business or the house you live in.
Not fair to people who have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes over their lifetime, much of which has been distributed to welfare addicts and stupid "social justice" programs. They shouldn't have to give up their right to vote in exchange for accepting a tiny portion of their money back while a whole bunch of people who have been getting pieces of their money for years get the same amount.
I would honestly consider paying people $10,000 if it meant they weren't allowed to vote. I'd rather have 1 more lump-sum unfair payment so we can get the power back and start actually making things fair again. There's nothing fair in any taxes or any subsidies, period.
Voting isn't inherently American. Democracy isn't inherently American. You've been fooled by a bunch of lefties. Universal suffrage is a mistake. If we could find a way, such as this, to limit to pool of voters to a higher claibre of voters, that would improve the outcome of society.
Wholly crap the people here are as bad as Gates and the rest of the Malthusian crowd. The fuck is up with the sterilization crowd? These scum should be booted!
Want welfare? Submit to sterilization.
But the world isn't ready for that conversation.
To be fair, the real conversation is simply removing welfare, period. No welfare. NONE.
First message board? Lol
One of my friends ran a restaurant and he lost everything because of the government.
I get the "bootstraps" mentality, but Jesus Christ there's a difference between a gender studies dropout playing Fortnite 14 hours a day and someone who lost everything because of government stupidity.
Take one for the team. For every decent person like yourself, there's at least 2 communists who'd lose their right to vote. By you sacrificing your right to vote, the end result is MAGA all the time. You wouldn't need to vote and you'd get what you wanted politically always thanks to your sacrifice.
"Sometimes it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"
So why did you speak then?
No. Our right to vote should never have a price tag on it. It's a freedom bestowed on us by the Constitution. Putting a price tag on it is something a liberal would do.
Universal suffrage was not in the constitution for a reason, because it's one of the worst things you can do to a society. This is just a way to cleanup the voting system so that we have more decent people voting as opposed to communists.
We're not putting a price tag on voting. Just stop.
Voting already has a price tag. The democrats keep buying votes. Even Trump attempted to buy the black vote. This exchange removes the price tag from voting because only people who can't be bought will be allowed to vote.
Yeah, I've heard a few people mention this. I believe the full conspiracy is that the plan is to force people/governments into so much debt that the globalists offer a trade. Your ability to own capital in exchange for having no debt. You're given a stipend (UBI) as well for this trade. To many people it seems great but essentially you're capping your upper-end earning potential for an annuity that for most people will actually end in a worse existence than if they worked in a capitalist system.
I still haven't figured out how the system forces people to work, perhaps through a point system based on productivity in order to gain small insignificant differences like better clothes or vehicles etc... but it's just a conspiracy after all.
It does seem like the powers in the world are working toward a two-class system.
The upper-class who are full of all the people who actually do things in society.
The lower-class who are full of people who just exist.
I think the upper-class is actually in a bit of a war with itself on how best to deal with the lower-class. You have the heart in the right place but have no clue about anything elites who think giving a minimum standard of living to the lower-class and keeping them around no different than how we treat our cats and dogs is best. Then you have the elites who think if the lower-class add no value to society they shouldn't exist. The former is winning but only because the latter is plotting behind the scenes. The former types really don't understand human nature, at all.
Realistically we're speculating still a long ways away. I think what we're seeing is a natural correction due to the environmental factors at play. Educators western peasants are having significantly less children because of xyz reason. The reason is imo the environmental factors of our society. No one who is a slave truly wants to bring up kids into servitude. Even if people don't understand they are in fact slaves, there's a lack of love, compassion and joy in our society because of people's servitude. This environmental factor leads to less children. Since we have abortions, birth control and have turned women into wage slaves instead of wives and mothers, people are having less children. The birth rates in most western countries are now less than the sustainable rate. The only reason populations are going up globally and in western countries is because of Africa/Middle-East and immigration. That's why the elite are so focused on educating women, promoting women's rights, etc... because it brings birth rates down.
There won't need to be a robot war. Over time, we'll naturally reduce our population because the lower class's life as of now even is not one that promotes healthy families and relationships. The more enslaved we become, the less we want to have kids. It'll just be a natural process were the lower class dwindles away. This is preferable to the elite because such a process is too subtle for the average person to realize what's going on.
How would being banned from owning anything work?
Do we own the pants we buy from the store?
If so, are we going to be barred from selling our extra pants?
Sorry, usually in these discussions I take the shortcut that everyone knows the real meaning behind "owning nothing". It really means you aren't allowed to own the means of production and land. No businesses. You can own your pants and perhaps even your car (this one is questionable) but you won't be able to own a business or the house you live in.
Except they just print imaginary votes anyway; who needs to buy off the people when you have a copy machine?
True, voter ID and anyone caught cheating by voting despite giving up their right to vote gets 5 years in prison.
Not fair to people who have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes over their lifetime, much of which has been distributed to welfare addicts and stupid "social justice" programs. They shouldn't have to give up their right to vote in exchange for accepting a tiny portion of their money back while a whole bunch of people who have been getting pieces of their money for years get the same amount.
I would honestly consider paying people $10,000 if it meant they weren't allowed to vote. I'd rather have 1 more lump-sum unfair payment so we can get the power back and start actually making things fair again. There's nothing fair in any taxes or any subsidies, period.
Dead cats have no rights but they vote.
Unamerican.
Voting isn't inherently American. Democracy isn't inherently American. You've been fooled by a bunch of lefties. Universal suffrage is a mistake. If we could find a way, such as this, to limit to pool of voters to a higher claibre of voters, that would improve the outcome of society.
I haven't been fooled by shit.
You do this, it will happen again, someone will set it up to lock us all down again and remove pools of voters with this deal.
How about if Biden gets in, sanctions all the states that challenged the election, then offers them this deal?
Fuckin GENIUS idea
Wholly crap the people here are as bad as Gates and the rest of the Malthusian crowd. The fuck is up with the sterilization crowd? These scum should be booted!
I would wholeheartedly approve this deal. We all know who would come out on top in that deal.
And that's exactly why it'll never happen
Votes are meaningless. Only power rules.
Black votes count as -2 Let's Gooooo!!
Works for me. If you're dumb enough to get paid off with your own money, you don't need to be able to vote to take more of my money.
And if you take the vaccine that eats your placenta. 20k
You have noticed that Democrats do not care if you have the right to vote or not as long as you vote for them...?
The dems would take the $10000 and vote anyhow.