They have a Point. Some of the Lefties are not 100% against us. They are just told they are. I have sat down with Many a Lefty and found we had WAY more in common. sometimes we may have a different Path to get there. although I have run into eh scary left too, unironically are Death cult members.
Yeah whenever they get to their lefty talking points just break their position down to their actual objective goals.
Example- Universal Healthcare. They just see how much the government wastes our money on useless bullshit while people are needlessly dying because they cant afford healthcare.
We agree on that 100%, lets stop arguing about why “universal healthcare” is socialism and start agreeing about how the government is corrupt and getting themselves rich instead of helping out the people.
If Government was not sucking away so much money many people would be able to pay for their OWN health care and we could Expand services for the ones that must be on it..
Absolutely. So long as we agree on the principle, that government is handing out OUR money to their rich buddies for kickbacks later, instead of helping us, the rest of the conversation is collaborative instead of combative.
Hell, I'd even be down for considering universal Healthcare. If our country wasn't what, 23 trillion in debt? If we had a surplus of funds and could afford it. Sure. Maybe. But now? Fuck no.
I think the main problem is the lack of health consciousness in our society right now.
We could have 2 doctors for every citizen, if every citizen is an overweight smoking heroin addict there is no amount of money that can keep us healthy.
Right now 1/3 are prediabetic or full blown diabetic, thats a big part of why healthcare is failing.
They have a Point. Some of the Lefties are not 100% against us. They are just told they are. I have sat down with Many a Lefty and found we had WAY more in common. sometimes we may have a different Path to get there. although I have run into eh scary left too, unironically are Death cult members.
Yeah whenever they get to their lefty talking points just break their position down to their actual objective goals.
Example- Universal Healthcare. They just see how much the government wastes our money on useless bullshit while people are needlessly dying because they cant afford healthcare.
We agree on that 100%, lets stop arguing about why “universal healthcare” is socialism and start agreeing about how the government is corrupt and getting themselves rich instead of helping out the people.
If Government was not sucking away so much money many people would be able to pay for their OWN health care and we could Expand services for the ones that must be on it..
Absolutely. So long as we agree on the principle, that government is handing out OUR money to their rich buddies for kickbacks later, instead of helping us, the rest of the conversation is collaborative instead of combative.
Unite as Americans, but if they want what the CCP or North Korea has there is no middle ground.
Hell, I'd even be down for considering universal Healthcare. If our country wasn't what, 23 trillion in debt? If we had a surplus of funds and could afford it. Sure. Maybe. But now? Fuck no.
I think the main problem is the lack of health consciousness in our society right now.
We could have 2 doctors for every citizen, if every citizen is an overweight smoking heroin addict there is no amount of money that can keep us healthy.
Right now 1/3 are prediabetic or full blown diabetic, thats a big part of why healthcare is failing.