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thunderpussy 8 points ago +10 / -2

There is gas lighting going on, but it isn't President Trump, chump.

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 1 point ago +4 / -3

Again, is there any actual argument to the points I made? I also left out Trump promoting the "warp speed" vax that many here won't even take. I'm just asking you to think for yourself and not blindly agree with something because Trump says it. Apparently that's hard for some

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thunderpussy 5 points ago +6 / -1

Trump didn't shut down the country, Governors and local officials did. As for poverty, etc., President Trump is not to blame for COVID - China IS.

Censorship is being carried out by PRIVATE companies. To battle this would require Congressional action. President Trump isn't a dictator who can rule by fiat.

As for BLM, etc., President Trump doesn't plan or execute the policies of leftist groups. Whatever one may think of them. they have a right to persue their causes, however idiotic. It's called the Constitution.

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 0 points ago +3 / -3

Yea but has trump told small biz owners to defy these governors? Nope.

Does trump still use and support these same companies that censor him? Yep.

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 0 points ago +2 / -2

So public relations and what the media says is more important to you than a small business staying open? You're just proving my point. You've lost the ability to see what's plainly in front of you. People are losing their entire livelihood and you're worried about what the media will say or do?

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412LibertyDotcom [S] -1 points ago +1 / -2

All I'm asking is what has trump done to help? I was just at a rally for local, small businesses that are being told to shut down. Trump has done NOTHING to help them. I live 2 miles from a diner thats staying open in defiance of that order. Trump doesn't have to show up and eat there but would it help? Sure. Or at least give a 5 minute speech praising the guy for having some balls and fighting back. Imagine the support that would build to end the lockdowns. But no, Trump is more interested in OPERATION WARP SPEED.

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

And yet every restaurant here in PA is forced to stop indoor dining. So Trump has either failed to make a difference, or is incapable of doing so. Which is it? Unless you consider a forced shutdown "success?"

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

How exactly is a local business who's trying to survive "waiting for someone to help" them? They need to just be left alone. What are they supposed to do, run a restaurant and also overthrow the governor? How does that even work? Go through government courts? Write letters they will throw away? How many hours are in a day?

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

????????

I'm saying we don't need any politicians at all. How does that mean I want a dictator?

So its a governor's "job" to force locally owned businesses to close? And trump just lets it happen without a peep, no support, no word of encouragement because of the media????? Wow. Pathetic.

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

"But who would build da roadz?" Wow such an original take

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ALLT4 4 points ago +4 / -0

Forget this OP chump, he creates false narratives and then asks for a defense. Troll

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The_Memetect 2 points ago +3 / -1

what do you suggest?

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Freedom, and free markets. Which means no taxes and no politicians.

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The_Memetect 3 points ago +3 / -0

that sounds like something trump supporters alone can't do by ourselves but yea i agree with you this is the era of action if we don't do something to change our country soon it may become unsalvageable but the whole world needs to have the biggest wake up call ever if trump ever does get in office he needs to detonate a declassify bomb and expose the whole corrupt pedophilic establishment

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thunderpussy 1 point ago +3 / -2

You might as well imagine pink unicorns. This is childish and stupid.

Taxes are required for government. The beef is the amount and the spending. You aren't for freedom. You are an anarchist.

No government and no rules = no civilization.

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, government has your best interest in mind. If only they spent less. Amazing you actually are brainwashed into believing government=civilization. Because without drug laws, world wars, and liquor licenses we couldn't survive, right?

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thunderpussy 1 point ago +3 / -2

Criminal Gangs, warlords, etc. would quickly fill it's place. Nature abhors a vacuum. No matter what you call it, some form of authority would emerge.

How do I know? The entirety of human history says so.

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

"We need slavery. How do I know? There's always been slaves"

Okay.

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thunderpussy 2 points ago +3 / -1

You have no argument, just the average fantasy of a 15 year old who thinks he will never have to bow to any authority, at any time, for any reason, and can do as he pleases.....

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CamboA 2 points ago +3 / -1

Points 1 to 4; None of this is Trumps fault. You'd have to be delusional to think 30 years of bad politics can be reversed in 4. But the reversal was begun by Trump, that is why the 'deep state' have fought him so hard.

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Every single politician refuses to take blame. Who's fault was the 2008 crash? We still don't know. Interesting

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thunderpussy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Try banker's, unscrupulous mortgage brokers, and regulators.....

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

You're on the right track. Now tell me how trump has fixed that problem...those people have more influence than ever

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CamboA 1 point ago +2 / -1

You cant fix monumental issues like these with a snap of a finger, kind of the problem of 'democracy' when it becomes corrupt and dysfunctional. Should Trump pull through this current existential battle though, things could start changing much more rapidly. 'God Emperor' achievement unlocked, basically.

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ALLT4 0 points ago +1 / -1

Ever hear of the housing bubble? Fannie, Freddie, I doubt it, banks forced by a congress and rubber stamped by Bush to make risky loans. Trump is trying to stop all this from happening again but he is Executive, not Legislative he doesn't make law, only passes law. It's hardly worth the effort with people like you. Do your own self education into why things happen, and shut off whatever mouthpieces you're listeng to.

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ALLT4 2 points ago +2 / -0

Almost everything you claim is the fault of bad decisions out of Trump's control. They're strawman arguments and as such aren't worth defending because it attributes fault erroneously.

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Okay so if trump has no control why is it so important he remains in office?

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bubble_bursts 1 point ago +2 / -1

National debt as well as personal

If you dont understand that Trump has taken control of the Fed, then you have been dozing. Wait until you see what he does to the debt and the debt system after inauguration.

  1. Less freedom than ever. People are locked in their houses, businesses forced closed. 3. More censorship than ever.

If you dont understand how desparate the Elites are in trying to get rid of Trump that they are now doing blatantly what they did covertly before, then you have been well lit. Gaslit, that is.

  1. The lgbtq/blm crowd has gained more attention and influence.

Whats wrong with this? Some of the greatest YouTubers I have found are LGBT who realised they were being scammed by the left and became conservative.

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't want trump in control of the fed. The fed shouldn't even exist at all. And why is it always "wait and see" why not do it now? If he wants to cancel the USD system or the national debt then go ahead. Whats the plan? Gold standard? Doubtful.

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bubble_bursts 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeahm you have a very short term vision. When JFK tried to get rid of CIA and Fed what happened to him? You are not even a little surprised Trump managed to take control of Fed? Thats the first step before America, and then the World is released form the clutches of debt based fiat currency system.

Whats the plan? Gold standard?

Gold standard wont work because as the population grows and economy needs to grow it gets limited. There are a few options people talk about. Crypto. Currency backed by labour or productivity. Something along the lines of the mythical Nesara/Gesara.

But first, we have to get get rid of the deep state. And thats what is happening now.

And why is it always "wait and see" why not do it now?

Because Deep State protects itself. If you tried to get rid of one entity the other entities close ranks. You have to scorch it completely. And first you have to make sure they expose themselves fully. What Trump is doing, basically every single person needs to take a stand - either for corruption or against corruption. If tt means pushing it close to wire, if it means creating a lot of disinformation, confusion, whatever it takes.

Fed is the third central bank system. When the first one was removed, Britain invaded America. When the second one was removed, Civil war happened. One president got assassinated, another one barely escaped. When JFK tried to remove the third one, he got assassinated.

There is a much deeper and much more powerful forces at play here, and we are privileged enough to actually see these cracks in the illusion and see the reality for what it is.

I hope Trump succeeds, we wont get another chance in another lifetime. But if he fails, at least some of us have woken up, and who knows, we might wake others up before we are all pushed into the carts carrying us to concentration - sorry - quarantine camps

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MeloniaisMelons 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump didn't cause the distrust, the left did.

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jda70 1 point ago +2 / -1

The top part of your comment is not Trumps fault. That's China and their China Virus Covid-19's fault as well as the Uni party's fault. Also the MSM. They fear mongered everyone into oblivion over this china virus crap.

Are you suggesting Trump is gaslighting people? Sounds like it.

How is he gaslighting people?

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 1 point ago +3 / -2

So trump only gets credit for the good but doesn't take blame for the bad? How is that different than any other politician? They always have some excuse. The 2008 crash, the dotcom crash, etc etc. Covid is a hoax and trump refuses to call it out and instead promotes a warp speed vax. Who's fault is that?

Trump didn't order these lockdowns but he sure isn't doing anything to stop them. I've been to rallies and supported places here who have defied the lockdowns. So I'm not some commie fag. But I accept reality. Trump hasn't helped any small biz here in PA. That's just a fact. He should be out every day calling for people to open their doors and defy these insane idiot governors like Cuomo, wolf, Whitmer. But he doesn't.

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thunderpussy 1 point ago +1 / -0

COVID is not a hoax. The response to it by states and other officials may be terrible, overbearing and unconstitutional, but it is not a "hoax".

A better term would be a biological attack on the World from China.

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Notice how the flu literally went away? Just a coincidence right?

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thunderpussy 1 point ago +1 / -0

Measures that slow down COVID, also slow down flu.

There are also people whose deaths are being classified incorrectly.

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh so the numbers are inflated but its not a hoax? Lol. How delusional can you be

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thunderpussy 1 point ago +1 / -0

Word definitions matter. Your use of the word "hoax" is used in a manner that denies the existence of COVID. The virus is real.

The statistics may be FALSE.

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

Flu is down 97%+. Covid deaths are highly inflated. Its a hoax.

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

And yet trump never gets on tv and tells everyone to defy these liberal governors. And yet trump never fired fauci. And yet trump still uses Twitter. 🙄

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Your comment makes the most sense aside from the stupid "china" nonsense. I was born and raised here and I love freedom.

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bubble_bursts 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump has however caused people to distrust government more than ever

Yes. Because Government hasnt been trustworthy, but the media has gaslighted us into thinking it is.

Shoot the messenger for bringing the truth.

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412LibertyDotcom [S] 2 points ago +4 / -2

Care to disagree with anything I said? Read my post history. I believe in freedom and free markets. You're a great example of what I was describing though. Can't accept whats right in front of you.

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Anaconda_Carlson -1 points ago +1 / -2

Man the hormone blockers really fucked you up. Sorry you can’t go back tranny