I know it's a crazy idea but instead they could stop their draconian shutdowns and then lower our taxes then we'd have enough of our own money we would need government stimulus.
As usual though we see these idiots causing a problem by increasing government interference, making it worse by trying to fix the problem with even more government interference then their solution is to that is to increase government involvement... and any time someone suggests loosening government control and lessening taxation to fix the situation they yell about selfishness, racism, and idiocy.
I'm getting pretty sick of them expecting us to buy the crap any longer
I was out of work for 2 months because of the early lockdown and didn’t qualify for unemployment due to some loophole ass bullshit. I’m still a full month behind on bills even though I’m back to work.
Ending the lockdowns secures future earnings but tens of millions of hard working Americans got fucked by the govt out of work through no fault of their own
I like Rand, but many Democrat governors have totally pushed millions of people into poverty. We need stimulus checks and we need to open everything ASAP. No more lock downs!
Can't the president do an Executive order banning lockdowns?
We need both, many of us are behind on our bills. Ending the lockdowns will help secure future earnings but it won’t change how much we racked up in debt or otherwise because we had our hours reduced, job cut or what have you
You’re an idiot. No one is shitting on you. You’re working so you get a pay check and I’m advocating for the government to NOT take money out of your pocket through taxes during this time so you’re welcome buddy!
Agreed. But the same could be said for 50% of all government spending, a sizable portion of which is for any cause BUT the American people who will have to repay it.
At least they can get a direct benefit for debt taken out in their name by direct payments.
LOL, so cut out all the dumb government spending and give that to the people, Americans need help, but doing something stupid in the short term for minimal benefit is basically what a smooth brain leftist does
So is the 20,000 dollars per adult they've already spent on Covid this year. It's only an issue when they're giving scraps of what they already stole back to the people.
They are taking the money from the creators (including those whose businesses were destroyed) and giving it to almost everyone, including those who worked at starbucks part time.
The best method is just stop taxing people so much, but everytime that happens it's a huge fucking maelstrom in government like the first round of tax cuts.
That was the logic behind FDR's "New Deal" and even the "arch conservatives" (sarcasm) over at UCLA say that it prolonged the depression by near a decade.
Fully open the US, get a constitutional amendment so we cannot ever be "locked down" again, and cut taxes. Always worked in the past
It's a very neo-con mentality to say no stimulus checks.
We're getting screwed over by the government but just take it on the chin. If it was eminent domain people would be pisssssed. If the government raised takes to 50% is TD gonna say hey guys let's just reduce it in the future? The damage is already done.
We need to open the economy, and need stimulus. Opening up alone doesn't bring someone's business back or let someone backpay rent, they might just be in debt for the next decade. We've got tens of millions of newly impoverished people, opening up the economy isn't enough.
Let us not forget that government artificially caused the economic crash and put a lot of businesses out of business. In addition to that government still allows unrestricted immigration.
I don't need or want any free money, I'm not a fucking freeloader! I work for mine! And work is super busy in the Florida, New Home Builder, Residential and Commercial Property Business right now. And here you are not even allowed to go to your job. Stop being their domestic pets and stand up to these communist slave traders. This is up to you, not them!
I have an idea. How about the Government cut taxes and end lockdowns! It was fifteen days to flatten the curve, not stay home Indefinitely until no one got sick again.
I can’t believe they are doing this is America. It’s a disgrace.
And never should we have a burden added to Americans to give money to other countries. Imagine going in debt so you can give money to your neighbor to pay his mortgage. It makes no sense.
I understand the motivation to get us to spend to help the economy but we can't spend it where it is needed...all the service industries hit by the lockdowns. So we will spend it on crap from China sold by Amazon or the stock market. Support the lockdown businesses and their employees instead.
I'm pretty sure he IS for tax returns. Stimulus cheques give everyone the same amount of money, no matter what, whereas tax returns give you back a proportional amount of what you already paid. Rather than financing the poor decisions of those who already pay no taxes (which usually just pushes that money to McDonalds, weed shops, and tattoo artists), it allows the productive of society to flourish.
How about suspending all taxes until the pandemic is over. Including local taxes, fuel taxes, property taxes and things like vehicle inspections which are indirect taxes.
I'm just saying he's out of touch. His kids obviously don't need a check because their father is fucking Rand Paul. He's so high on the libertarian kool-aid that he doesn't realize some people can't even pay rent or feed their kids when half the country is shut down.
If he can't get the country open at least don't try to obstruct the 2k relief checks.
I see where you are coming from. As a libertarian myself, even I realize that government was the direct reason for most of the issues so the stimulus wouldn't be unwarranted in this circumstance.
It's not so much begging for money as it is calling the bullshit of the bill that funds everyone but our citizens, while also acknowledging that taxation is theft -- and a libertarian shouldn't exactly be against this right now, for the sole fact of how many lives are being destroyed by the government.
Seriously, any money they send us is just a bribe to buy our compliance with this lockdown shit.
No relief bill should be signed without airtight provisions preventing officials from ever pulling this lockdown horseshit again.
Buying our compliance with our money...
I know it's a crazy idea but instead they could stop their draconian shutdowns and then lower our taxes then we'd have enough of our own money we would need government stimulus.
As usual though we see these idiots causing a problem by increasing government interference, making it worse by trying to fix the problem with even more government interference then their solution is to that is to increase government involvement... and any time someone suggests loosening government control and lessening taxation to fix the situation they yell about selfishness, racism, and idiocy.
I'm getting pretty sick of them expecting us to buy the crap any longer
It's a joke. If someone has a job or income, they don't need $600. That's exactly what re-distribution of wealth is all about.
I was out of work for 2 months because of the early lockdown and didn’t qualify for unemployment due to some loophole ass bullshit. I’m still a full month behind on bills even though I’m back to work.
Ending the lockdowns secures future earnings but tens of millions of hard working Americans got fucked by the govt out of work through no fault of their own
I like Rand, but many Democrat governors have totally pushed millions of people into poverty. We need stimulus checks and we need to open everything ASAP. No more lock downs!
Can't the president do an Executive order banning lockdowns?
We need both, many of us are behind on our bills. Ending the lockdowns will help secure future earnings but it won’t change how much we racked up in debt or otherwise because we had our hours reduced, job cut or what have you
No stimulus check! Just eliminate taxes during lockdown
Eliminate taxes and the pay of congress, governors/ lt. governors, mayors, and judges until everything reopens.
This!!!! No pay for these people would suddenly make Covid less of an issue. After all, the recovery rate is nearly a hundred percent.
Most of us are still working. They call us first responders but shit on us with this garbage.
Thank you.
You’re an idiot. No one is shitting on you. You’re working so you get a pay check and I’m advocating for the government to NOT take money out of your pocket through taxes during this time so you’re welcome buddy!
Let people work and run their businesses instead of giving them $600.
This isn't a 'return'. It is a payout to a lot of people who never paid end.
They can just refund us.
Try reparations from the government destroying businesses and people's livelihoods, Rand.....
Keep in mind it’s essentially a loan that your kid will have to pay back, with interest. So there’s that...
Agreed. But the same could be said for 50% of all government spending, a sizable portion of which is for any cause BUT the American people who will have to repay it.
At least they can get a direct benefit for debt taken out in their name by direct payments.
LOL, so cut out all the dumb government spending and give that to the people, Americans need help, but doing something stupid in the short term for minimal benefit is basically what a smooth brain leftist does
Yeah, I am not too excited about my kids having to pay back money we hand out to foreign countries
So is the 20,000 dollars per adult they've already spent on Covid this year. It's only an issue when they're giving scraps of what they already stole back to the people.
They are taking the money from the creators (including those whose businesses were destroyed) and giving it to almost everyone, including those who worked at starbucks part time.
The best method is just stop taxing people so much, but everytime that happens it's a huge fucking maelstrom in government like the first round of tax cuts.
If they don't do something, the crash that is coming in a couple of months will be epic.
That was the logic behind FDR's "New Deal" and even the "arch conservatives" (sarcasm) over at UCLA say that it prolonged the depression by near a decade.
Fully open the US, get a constitutional amendment so we cannot ever be "locked down" again, and cut taxes. Always worked in the past
It's not up to them, it's up to you! Wake UP!
I am not in need, nor will be, as I retired in my fourty's.
But government policies have already assured of a meltdown....see mortgage payment and rent arrears.......
The day of reckoning beckons...
It's a very neo-con mentality to say no stimulus checks.
We're getting screwed over by the government but just take it on the chin. If it was eminent domain people would be pisssssed. If the government raised takes to 50% is TD gonna say hey guys let's just reduce it in the future? The damage is already done.
We need to open the economy, and need stimulus. Opening up alone doesn't bring someone's business back or let someone backpay rent, they might just be in debt for the next decade. We've got tens of millions of newly impoverished people, opening up the economy isn't enough.
I agree. Furthermore, you would be providing the setup for the Marxists to take advantage of.
This is not exactly a "tax return" if everyone is getting the same amount equally.
Let us not forget that government artificially caused the economic crash and put a lot of businesses out of business. In addition to that government still allows unrestricted immigration.
I don't need or want any free money, I'm not a fucking freeloader! I work for mine! And work is super busy in the Florida, New Home Builder, Residential and Commercial Property Business right now. And here you are not even allowed to go to your job. Stop being their domestic pets and stand up to these communist slave traders. This is up to you, not them!
How about they just waive taxes this past year instead.
Deep state: We cant have that
I want clean Bill. If it has the pork, it’s not worth getting the 2,000.
I have an idea. How about the Government cut taxes and end lockdowns! It was fifteen days to flatten the curve, not stay home Indefinitely until no one got sick again.
I can’t believe they are doing this is America. It’s a disgrace.
And never should we have a burden added to Americans to give money to other countries. Imagine going in debt so you can give money to your neighbor to pay his mortgage. It makes no sense.
I understand the motivation to get us to spend to help the economy but we can't spend it where it is needed...all the service industries hit by the lockdowns. So we will spend it on crap from China sold by Amazon or the stock market. Support the lockdown businesses and their employees instead.
I'm pretty sure he IS for tax returns. Stimulus cheques give everyone the same amount of money, no matter what, whereas tax returns give you back a proportional amount of what you already paid. Rather than financing the poor decisions of those who already pay no taxes (which usually just pushes that money to McDonalds, weed shops, and tattoo artists), it allows the productive of society to flourish.
Stimulus always causes inflation.
How about suspending all taxes until the pandemic is over. Including local taxes, fuel taxes, property taxes and things like vehicle inspections which are indirect taxes.
Open small businesses.
End lockdowns.
"Stimulus" is a bribe by leftists to accept tyranny. Spending money for the unemployed.
See welfare to poor black single women as long as there's no man in the house.
End the tyranny and there is no need for "stimulus".
Wow the kids of a fucking US Senator don't need a check. Nice argument you out of touch dipshit.
Are you implying Ron took backdoor deals? He was btw a doctor too
I'm just saying he's out of touch. His kids obviously don't need a check because their father is fucking Rand Paul. He's so high on the libertarian kool-aid that he doesn't realize some people can't even pay rent or feed their kids when half the country is shut down.
If he can't get the country open at least don't try to obstruct the 2k relief checks.
I see where you are coming from. As a libertarian myself, even I realize that government was the direct reason for most of the issues so the stimulus wouldn't be unwarranted in this circumstance.
Its fun watching pedes beg for money
It's not so much begging for money as it is calling the bullshit of the bill that funds everyone but our citizens, while also acknowledging that taxation is theft -- and a libertarian shouldn't exactly be against this right now, for the sole fact of how many lives are being destroyed by the government.