What's even the "on paper" justification for rules like this? If the wife and husband both sign a waiver what's the problem? Is a patient less likely to spread than their family?
It’s all fucking madness! People need to respectfully but loudly keep speaking out, all the fucking time. That will force those in power to either back down or go full on tyranny real fast, fast enough so the lobsters realize the water is boiling.
Do not ever take a vaccine. Research it. Not even the k1 shot. Its bad. Completely unneeded. Only dirt poor malnurished kids benefits from something the body is not designed for. Bodies dont bleed at birth, naturr got it before we wanted to inject alunimum and k1 into a tiny body which doesnt havr a full.liver function....
Medical authoritarianism. It's more common than you think. Medicine has a dark and bloody history and a common theme is forcing rules onto people and eventually it turns out the medical "experts" were wrong.
Dr Ignaz Semmelweis discovered washing your hands before helping deliver a baby reduced sepsis in mothers. He was ridiculed by the "experts" for such a stance. Turns out he was right. His story is also a good argument against the "but muh science is settled!" buffoons.
Finished in an asylum. Pretty much tje establishments conspired against him because the truth was that doctors were responsible for lots of women dying.
Maybe not strictly authoritarianizm, but going against the "majority" has always been career suicide for doctors. If they can't freely share their ideas, the outcome is no different from authoritarianism.
Start with looking at anything about eugenics. Then look at how psychological disorders were treated from the 1940s to the 2000s. Off the top of my head, these are two major and widespread examples.
I’m sure it has something to do with exposing other patients and staff in patient treatment areas, there are more there than in waiting rooms. Silly. Do masks work or don’t they
private property, the hospital can (and probably will) kick you out for trespassing and win. its fucking super lame but thats the deal. i fucking hate it
not if your wife is already in the delivery room hooked up to monitors. not only is it almost logistically impossible at that point. even if you do manage to get upstairs to the labor dept, get her outta there, and somehow find another hospital to go to, you will forever look like the asshole from your wife. not worth it if you ask me. its a zero-sum game and you will forever be the dickhead.
I did a midwife group that had some sort of agreement with a hospital. All my checkups were at their small clinic while the actual l&d was in the hospital with one of the midwives. Midwife and nurses were all about helping me through an unmedicated birth while some of the best ob's in the state were just down the hall if shit hit the fan. I hope if kid #2 ever happens, I can find a similar set up.
Just a heads up to others. I looked into this. If you don’t do home birth first time, and are not careful, you may never be able to do home birth.
Why?
C-section is the method of choice for many Doctors. It helps them reduce liability (to be fair in USA we are land of the lawsuit), plus it helps they get to charge your insurance a bit more.
Not too much wrong with this. Fairly harmless so far. Except. Recovery takes much longer. Oh and if you get a C-section once, they will 100% recommend you get a C-section for the next kid. One overly cautious Dr leads to a lifetime subscription of C-sections. They practically tell you it’s required because it was done the first time, regardless of circumstances.
Not hating on C-sections. Just like I don’t hate medical masks. I only hate unnecessary ones.
I normally support natural medicine 100% but both me and my baby would've died if I'd have gone the midwife route. Ended up with emergency c section when baby's heart rate dropped after I pushed for 9 hours.
Ugh I’m sorry you had such a difficult labor. I completely agree with you. I wanted a medication-free birth so badly- my husband and I even took Bradley method classes for hours a week for months. But then I ended up having to be induced and was in active labor with my water broken for over 72 hours and pushed for about 3 hours (I have no idea how you did 9!)
So while I think completely natural births are favorable and I wish I didn’t have to be induced, I’m just grateful that my son and I are alive. Oftentimes the medical assistance doesn’t make it easier at all.
I'm sorry you had that birth experience! It sounds so tough! While i don't know your situation, I would argue that having a skilled midwife would have prevented that situation. Out of hospital births with a knowledable midwife are likely to be very aware of baby's position and do everything they can make sure baby is in the optimal position for birth. Midwives who do out of hospital birth are very incentivized to have a low risk and healthy birth. I know it's too late to change your experience, but just want to give some insight for others who may be considering other options. I've done a hospital birth, birthing center, and home birth so I've seen the pros and cons of each option.
When my wife delivered our girls (1st and 3rd) both deliveries took about 10 minutes. Didn't have time for drugs the first time, and I delivered my daughter in my hallway the last time.
No drugs needed.
My son on the other hand, she was in labor for so long the drugs wore off and they couldn't give her more.
ok toughguy, lemme know how it works for you. i dislike this whole shenanigans as much as the next guy, but it aint gonna work. im not gonna miss my child being born next week because some security guard wants to go on a powertrip. i only get one chance to be around for this, im not going to fuck it up being an internet tough guy.
so you send me a link of a woman who is telling me im a fucking retard. thanks. you are acting like i dont completely agree with you regarding covid. obviously i think its complete horseshit, i wouldnt be on this site if i didnt. i havent worn a mask in public unless i go into a public place. i fucking hate it, i go to sacramento and protest, i do my part for this cause. in the bay area, this is about as good as i can do, and certainly more than other people. come here to the belly in the beast and do better than i have. i've held signs, i've defended myself in a maga hat. when it comes to my child being born, i'll play ball to make sure my child is born safely. if that means i have to wear a goddamn mask to satisfy the idiots then so be it. there are many hills to die on, this one isnt it when my kid is being born. any other time, i'm game, but not this time.
if you dont understand at this point, i dont know what to tell you. you must not have kids. or a heart. cmon man!?
ps: No one. NO ONE could keep me from my family. If I had to get to them through the air conditioning ducts thats what I would and could do. Id dress up like hospital employee. Id lie. Id steal. They would have to lock me up, and tight, to keep me from my family. No exceptions.NO ONE. The reason you are in the situation you are is to make your stand, not your protest, not your words. There is no more important time than now. I hope you come to that awareness, soon.
Do you not understand that when you continue to play the mask game what you are experiencing WILL NEVER END. IT WILL JUST GET WORSE! CV-19 is just the EXCUSE to take our rights. You in the Bay area of Ca should know this better than most. You better get a hold of yourself Patriot. Your part is to RESIST and continue to RESIST for your life and that of your soon to be born child.
Historically it does
An entitiy that
A. Doesn't have a single owner or family own
B. Is finance or recieve capital not from that individual or family or thru the sell of products or service thru the private market.
Is consider public.
Only in modern times did this stupid notion of private public started appearing which the name ib itself is an oxymoron.
Say that you're really cold and could use a coat.. a white doctors coat. Then just find a stethoscope and walk around til you find her ;) (jokes)
I dont get the rationsle if you were just in a car together. Visiting your Grandma who you may not of seen in a while, sure - still dont like it but can be justified. Not seeing your wife who you were just in a car with.. dont make no sense!
Record them denying you access and why etc. Dont be an ass about just get it on record. It wont help right now, but it could in future to sue.. you never know what could happen.
Try threatening to leave to another hospital that is utter horseshit. Valley medical let my mom go in with my dad to the emergency room when he fell 12 feet and we thought he broke his back
Yeah I am in Tacoma. Go ahead and get a lawyer and see if they will take the case. You were with your wife when she came and and when she leaves. Who exactly are they protecting? Is she in a room with lots of people?
Don’t do this. I’m in Minneapolis and my step mom has metastatic cancer. She went in to have 3 organs removed and my father was kicked out by 8-10 security guards. He had a mask on, he just wasn’t allowed past the waiting room.
Fight the system and all, but you’re just being forced to abandon your wife that way. It’s private property :(
The staff are assigned different roles and different patients. Not every staff has the license to practice nursing or to be a doctor. While one nurses and techs team might be busy, another's team might be content and slow. Doesn't mean that a slow period is reflective of the whole shift. I'm an RN on the Medical floor and we've had irate family members come to the desk and complain about their family member needing help and we are all just sitting there yet they don't realize I've been managing 6-7 patients of my own and nobody from that patients team has reached out to any other team for help, so while I've been efficient with my time and worked hard to get my stuff done and how dare I sit down to chart for 20 minutes cuz that's just laziness to lay people. If you don't know how a hospital unit is actually ran then don't talk smack. Workloads come in waves and usually places work with skeleton crews and there's lots of turnovers everywhere cuz everywhere sucks to work. Family is always hateful, the old people are always hateful and then you get people getting mad at you when you're not the one that makes the stupid rules and if you don't enforce them you will get canned and open yourself up to all kinds of legal lawsuits
This is the truth, everyone is compartmentalized and intervening in someone elses assignment is usually not appreciated or worse. I'm concerned that you've been on a medical floor too long, though. Try to move to surgery or something.
My life is going through a really rough patch and im hyper sensitive. My thyroid level is low and I have no energy and they just got me on a new dose (had it taken out recently). My gallbladder bisnbad and has been causing me pain for months and I get it out on Jan 5th. I have a thoracic back hernia causing me pain for the last 7 years that nothing has worked on and I had been doing ok on pain management meds and had been walking a few miles a couple days a week then earlier this year the pain shot up and I can barely make it through my job and my activity level has gone to nothing. An epidural lasted 2 weeks of a breather then it was back to the marathon. I'm going across state at the end of the month to plead a doc to operate on me. A week ago my wife had an ectopic pregnancy and her fallopian tube ruptured and she came very close to dying. I'm supposed to be the one taking care of her now and our kids, but moving is painful and life is like a nightmare I can't wake up from. I suffer from depression too and am on meds for it and my mind goes on quite the roller coaster ride at any given point throughout the day and I've been quite erratic. I'm hoping this next year goes better.
Good heavens. You must be tough to have gotten through so much. So much pain causes depression regardless of other factors and between the two it's easy to get hooked on meds and add another problem. I hope you can find someone to help you sort things out and get your footing. God bless.
edit: And seriously, medical floors are frustrating and depressing. In view of your back pain, you might think about working in an office or something.
Uh sounds to me like you're in the wrong profession. Being an RN means you're supposed to help people and oh, NURSE people. So if some family member comes up to you and needs help, then you should help them and that means finding them help, even if they're not your assigned patient. Otherwise, why are you there? You're everything that's wrong with the medical profession.
I called the patients nurse and let them know the family member was really mad about them needing to go to the bathroom. We do find help, but typically the patient won't have used the call light and will have just told the cleaning lady or the wrong staff what they want and then get all mad when nothing gets done and instead of speaking up sooner again they wait til they are fuming before they say anything else and it makes much ado about something that could've been avoided so easily.
One time a family member told the tech they wanted wanted an x-ray update on their family member, the tech told me, and I was doing my job and helping my patients and in a great mood. When I was done with what I was doing, I went to the room and the family member then started immediately yelling at me about how long she had been waiting. It was only 20 minutes.
Older people can be nice and sweet, but some lose the patience they had in their earlier years and they get stuck in their routine and being in the hospital gets them out of that routine so they are unhappy and mad and you're the one they take all their frustration out on.
Medical staff needs their downtime for charting and to mentally and physically recharge. Burnout is a huge problem in the profession. People assume the staff is just sitting there doing nothing and is therefore just lazy, and it's ridiculous.
I do my best to take care of my patients, and how dare I get mad when some random guy starts yelling at me for a patient that's not even mine. There's no downtime to destress and then you have to deal with verbal abuse coming from patients and more commonly family members. Before I left work last night I consoled one of the secretaries who was crying because a family member had yelled at her over a purse and she had no clue who the patient was or control about it. That's not the first time she's been yelled at by family recently and she's applied for a job elsewhere.
It's easy to judge us all as being horrible people, but the system sucks and needs an overhaul. The people at the top in administration screw us over with staffing and it burns us out and makes it rougher on our patients. I do I best I can, but we hire quite a few bums out of school and management wants us all to help them, but they can't even do the basics and are perpetually behind. When they work I'm picking up the slack and teaching them basic stuff that could save some people's lives like don't shoot the cathflo you put in a picc line into the patient after it's done, but to pull it out in some blood and discard it. A nurse screwed up like that months ago and almost killed someone cuz our training sucks and we don't hire good GNs and so while I may be everything wrong with nursing I'm the one telling people that this guy has cold antibodies for his blood and needs it warmed up or else you risk a rejection reaction, and the night nurse goes oh really, the last time they gave it to him without warming it up, even though the warmers been in his room for weeks.
Like I said earlier, you choose a profession to console and help NURSE and heal people. If you didn't know that people would be upset when their family member is in pain, under duress, scared, at one of their worst times in their life, that's not anyone's problem but your own. It comes with the territory. Either develop thick skin and realize it's part of your job or don't and find another profession.
She could helpfully help an unknown patient and make them worse because she doesn't know some important detail, even about something that seems as simple as getting a demented 200 lb person with two IVs to the bathroom. Also, she would then be taking time from her own. Getting the responsible person to do the job and/or changing the way work is divided is a safer solution for everyone.
With a baby on the way, they only have to have you removed and you’ve missed it. You can win in court later, but it will never replace what you’ve missed. OPs wife isn’t in labor, but the point is still valid.
Becoz CNN, or any leftist outlet, isn't in the business of bringing truth to the people, just lies and coverups. If the media were only legitimate, we'd be so far along as a country, as a people, but no, lefturds want misery and death at every turn.
Another reason it’s TRUMP 2020 or bust for the USA. The deep state will have their way with the American people like a millionaire with a Vegas whore otherwise. No thanks.
I only got denied being present for ultrasound visits. I cannot imagine what this man must be experiencing. God please watch over this family in their desperate time.
That's not the big picture. People need to start fighting against this shit. Next step will be you can't see your wife and kid for a month because they need to be quarantined longer.
And I bet they gave you new masks instead of letting you use your own... why? Because everyone’s masks are filled with bacteria and they don’t want that shit in the hospital so they give you new ones... COVID is a disgusting lie.
Glad she's ok, but what the fuck- YOU WERE SITTING NEXT TO YOUR WIFE IN THE CAR.. You're allowed in the hospital to sit and wait, by the people who are also working with the people allowed in your wives' room....... Logic is gone.
My nephew had a compound fracture of his arm. Bone through skin, cut a vein and the little kid was leakin like a stuck pig. Hospital would only let 1 parent in to go with him. Fuckin retarded rules.
Update. My wife and I are now in the birthing center. Apparently this wing of the hospital is more covid resistant because she is allowed one visitor over here. Her and baby are doing well as far as all signs tell. Very early stages of labor right now with contractions every 5 minutes or so. We could be having us a Christmas baby. Thank you everyone for the updoots and well wishes. I will not raise my new baby or other children in a communist country. Keep up the good fight everyone.
Just happened to find your thread tonight... have spoken a prayer to wish your family blessings and joy and vibrant health. Congratulations, papapede. YOU GOT THIS.
My friend you look weary, worried, and furious all at the same time. I'm feeling all that on your behalf. God will watch over your precious wife and baby. SICK that you can't be with them.
The super stupid thing about this is that, if covid were a real pandemic, they would actually reduce potential exposure by keeping family units all in the same place.
If a husband and wife are actually infected but you put one in a room and the other in the waiting room now you have TWO rooms where transmission is possible.
It’s like pinwheeling your arms in an elevator to fill the air with fart stink.
Yea, I was gonna point out some logical flaws with this kind of protocol, then I just got really mad thinking about it and it created a mental feedback loop and now I'm just too angry to type it all out. Let me catch some bumblefuckin hospital bullshitters trying to keep me from my pregnant wife.
I'm either in that room or they're putting me in the back of car. My wife understands that under no circumstances are either one of us to be at a hospital alone. If we arrive together we go in together and if she or I arrives after the hospital has 5 minutes to comply with out wishes or we're checking ourselves out. It's sad as FUCK that we feel the need to come up with basically an emergency disaster plan for unavoidable hospital trips.
holy shit man. i wish you and your family all the best. my wife is nine months pregnant, due any day now, bay area CA, ive only been allowed to two appointments. shes due any day now, and im in the same dilemma. good luck with your life, MAGA is strong!
Fucking this. 80% of them are either sluts flashing their tits to whoever's next on the cock carousel or their fat slag Karens. I swear there may be only two or three good nurses in any given hospital and they're probably guys.
Sending you hugs pede! Merry Christmas and Praise God that she and the baby are ok. That's a real Christmas Gift, you know. It could be a different post. So just know you are surrounded by prayer from all over the world right now. A lot of things don't make sense, but LOVE always Trumps bad situations like this, Thank God that you have a good hospital she and your baby could go to.
I blame the CCP Democrats for wickedness such as this. You should be able to be with your wife. I just said a prayer for you all. God bless you, and congratulations that your new child is on the way!
God bless you and your family.
What's even the "on paper" justification for rules like this? If the wife and husband both sign a waiver what's the problem? Is a patient less likely to spread than their family?
And what happened to the whole social bubble argument???
It’s all fucking madness! People need to respectfully but loudly keep speaking out, all the fucking time. That will force those in power to either back down or go full on tyranny real fast, fast enough so the lobsters realize the water is boiling.
Do not ever take a vaccine. Research it. Not even the k1 shot. Its bad. Completely unneeded. Only dirt poor malnurished kids benefits from something the body is not designed for. Bodies dont bleed at birth, naturr got it before we wanted to inject alunimum and k1 into a tiny body which doesnt havr a full.liver function....
Medical authoritarianism. It's more common than you think. Medicine has a dark and bloody history and a common theme is forcing rules onto people and eventually it turns out the medical "experts" were wrong.
It's like they eroded the notion of consent decree when that was foundational to medicine
What are some historical examples of major medical tyranny?
Dr Ignaz Semmelweis discovered washing your hands before helping deliver a baby reduced sepsis in mothers. He was ridiculed by the "experts" for such a stance. Turns out he was right. His story is also a good argument against the "but muh science is settled!" buffoons.
Finished in an asylum. Pretty much tje establishments conspired against him because the truth was that doctors were responsible for lots of women dying.
That's not authoritarianism
Maybe not strictly authoritarianizm, but going against the "majority" has always been career suicide for doctors. If they can't freely share their ideas, the outcome is no different from authoritarianism.
Involuntary experiments on mental patients (like involuntary labotomy).
Mental patients being treated like zoo animals for curious spectators to oggle at.
In secret, MK Ultra.
Nazi experiments.
Experiments on prisoners.
Experiments on soldiers.
I imagine there are more I've never heard of or am not remembering.
Start with looking at anything about eugenics. Then look at how psychological disorders were treated from the 1940s to the 2000s. Off the top of my head, these are two major and widespread examples.
There is no reasonable justification for any of this.
Demoralisation. That’s why.
I know that's the real reason, I was asking for the reason that they share publicly
I’m sure it has something to do with exposing other patients and staff in patient treatment areas, there are more there than in waiting rooms. Silly. Do masks work or don’t they
private property, the hospital can (and probably will) kick you out for trespassing and win. its fucking super lame but thats the deal. i fucking hate it
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Great video. So true, love the energy
**EVERYONE NEEDS TO WATCH THAT VIDEO!!!
Threaten to go to a different hospital and they'll be afraid to lose that money
No they don't give a shit, trust me. And she's already in a room, ie accruing charges. Sorry!
pretty sure they already got the covid funding on signed entry documents.
not if your wife is already in the delivery room hooked up to monitors. not only is it almost logistically impossible at that point. even if you do manage to get upstairs to the labor dept, get her outta there, and somehow find another hospital to go to, you will forever look like the asshole from your wife. not worth it if you ask me. its a zero-sum game and you will forever be the dickhead.
Sir, this is a Wendy's.
My wife wouldn't see me as an asshole cuz she wouldn't want to put up with that shit
Currently 8 months pregnant. I completely agree. My husband would be the hero in this situation, certainly not an asshole.
Same. My wife would not want to be stuck in some prison like that.
This put in the transfer papers and hire a midwife for an at home birth, Transfer her home.
I did a midwife group that had some sort of agreement with a hospital. All my checkups were at their small clinic while the actual l&d was in the hospital with one of the midwives. Midwife and nurses were all about helping me through an unmedicated birth while some of the best ob's in the state were just down the hall if shit hit the fan. I hope if kid #2 ever happens, I can find a similar set up.
Don't do home birth your first time.
To much to go wrong with massive consequences.
Just a heads up to others. I looked into this. If you don’t do home birth first time, and are not careful, you may never be able to do home birth.
Why? C-section is the method of choice for many Doctors. It helps them reduce liability (to be fair in USA we are land of the lawsuit), plus it helps they get to charge your insurance a bit more.
Not too much wrong with this. Fairly harmless so far. Except. Recovery takes much longer. Oh and if you get a C-section once, they will 100% recommend you get a C-section for the next kid. One overly cautious Dr leads to a lifetime subscription of C-sections. They practically tell you it’s required because it was done the first time, regardless of circumstances.
Not hating on C-sections. Just like I don’t hate medical masks. I only hate unnecessary ones.
Yes!! And do a natural birth without drugs. It's the way the lord intended ✝️
I normally support natural medicine 100% but both me and my baby would've died if I'd have gone the midwife route. Ended up with emergency c section when baby's heart rate dropped after I pushed for 9 hours.
Ugh I’m sorry you had such a difficult labor. I completely agree with you. I wanted a medication-free birth so badly- my husband and I even took Bradley method classes for hours a week for months. But then I ended up having to be induced and was in active labor with my water broken for over 72 hours and pushed for about 3 hours (I have no idea how you did 9!) So while I think completely natural births are favorable and I wish I didn’t have to be induced, I’m just grateful that my son and I are alive. Oftentimes the medical assistance doesn’t make it easier at all.
I'm sorry you had that birth experience! It sounds so tough! While i don't know your situation, I would argue that having a skilled midwife would have prevented that situation. Out of hospital births with a knowledable midwife are likely to be very aware of baby's position and do everything they can make sure baby is in the optimal position for birth. Midwives who do out of hospital birth are very incentivized to have a low risk and healthy birth. I know it's too late to change your experience, but just want to give some insight for others who may be considering other options. I've done a hospital birth, birthing center, and home birth so I've seen the pros and cons of each option.
When my wife delivered our girls (1st and 3rd) both deliveries took about 10 minutes. Didn't have time for drugs the first time, and I delivered my daughter in my hallway the last time.
No drugs needed.
My son on the other hand, she was in labor for so long the drugs wore off and they couldn't give her more.
Place wouldn't give a shit less for you to leave
And this is why it continues
Hospital aren't private as a massive bulk of their funding is from the state
ok toughguy, lemme know how it works for you. i dislike this whole shenanigans as much as the next guy, but it aint gonna work. im not gonna miss my child being born next week because some security guard wants to go on a powertrip. i only get one chance to be around for this, im not going to fuck it up being an internet tough guy.
And this is why it continues...
yeah https://www.brighteon.com/4be57cc8-9073-4b8f-9c30-529a8f9b4180
so you send me a link of a woman who is telling me im a fucking retard. thanks. you are acting like i dont completely agree with you regarding covid. obviously i think its complete horseshit, i wouldnt be on this site if i didnt. i havent worn a mask in public unless i go into a public place. i fucking hate it, i go to sacramento and protest, i do my part for this cause. in the bay area, this is about as good as i can do, and certainly more than other people. come here to the belly in the beast and do better than i have. i've held signs, i've defended myself in a maga hat. when it comes to my child being born, i'll play ball to make sure my child is born safely. if that means i have to wear a goddamn mask to satisfy the idiots then so be it. there are many hills to die on, this one isnt it when my kid is being born. any other time, i'm game, but not this time.
if you dont understand at this point, i dont know what to tell you. you must not have kids. or a heart. cmon man!?
ps: No one. NO ONE could keep me from my family. If I had to get to them through the air conditioning ducts thats what I would and could do. Id dress up like hospital employee. Id lie. Id steal. They would have to lock me up, and tight, to keep me from my family. No exceptions.NO ONE. The reason you are in the situation you are is to make your stand, not your protest, not your words. There is no more important time than now. I hope you come to that awareness, soon.
Do you not understand that when you continue to play the mask game what you are experiencing WILL NEVER END. IT WILL JUST GET WORSE! CV-19 is just the EXCUSE to take our rights. You in the Bay area of Ca should know this better than most. You better get a hold of yourself Patriot. Your part is to RESIST and continue to RESIST for your life and that of your soon to be born child.
Get in the train car.
Awesome video. She's my Hero of the Day!
I understand the pandemic is a bunch of BS. Lockdowns, masks, social distance, all BS.
But who the hell is she?
This slightly-worse-than-a-flu virus does seem to really exist and have been isolated.
For claims on Covid being overhyped BS see: Look around we are in a circus.
For claims of isolation of virus: https://www.icgeb.org/the-sars-cov-2-virus-has-been-isolated-and-the-full-genome-sequenced-at-icgeb-trieste-italy/
No, no. That's not how this works. The hospital is private property, it's NOT public property. It doesn't matter where the do funding comes from.
Historically it does An entitiy that A. Doesn't have a single owner or family own B. Is finance or recieve capital not from that individual or family or thru the sell of products or service thru the private market. Is consider public. Only in modern times did this stupid notion of private public started appearing which the name ib itself is an oxymoron.
How can they kick you out for trespassing while still holding on to YOUR family member?
Say that you're really cold and could use a coat.. a white doctors coat. Then just find a stethoscope and walk around til you find her ;) (jokes)
I dont get the rationsle if you were just in a car together. Visiting your Grandma who you may not of seen in a while, sure - still dont like it but can be justified. Not seeing your wife who you were just in a car with.. dont make no sense!
Record them denying you access and why etc. Dont be an ass about just get it on record. It wont help right now, but it could in future to sue.. you never know what could happen.
I live in Washington state. I unfortunately think you are wrong about that.
Try threatening to leave to another hospital that is utter horseshit. Valley medical let my mom go in with my dad to the emergency room when he fell 12 feet and we thought he broke his back
Yeah, I live in Wa state too. Did you miss this? She is a practicing RN with Masters Degree.https://www.brighteon.com/4be57cc8-9073-4b8f-9c30-529a8f9b4180
Yeah I am in Tacoma. Go ahead and get a lawyer and see if they will take the case. You were with your wife when she came and and when she leaves. Who exactly are they protecting? Is she in a room with lots of people?
Don’t do this. I’m in Minneapolis and my step mom has metastatic cancer. She went in to have 3 organs removed and my father was kicked out by 8-10 security guards. He had a mask on, he just wasn’t allowed past the waiting room. Fight the system and all, but you’re just being forced to abandon your wife that way. It’s private property :(
The staff are assigned different roles and different patients. Not every staff has the license to practice nursing or to be a doctor. While one nurses and techs team might be busy, another's team might be content and slow. Doesn't mean that a slow period is reflective of the whole shift. I'm an RN on the Medical floor and we've had irate family members come to the desk and complain about their family member needing help and we are all just sitting there yet they don't realize I've been managing 6-7 patients of my own and nobody from that patients team has reached out to any other team for help, so while I've been efficient with my time and worked hard to get my stuff done and how dare I sit down to chart for 20 minutes cuz that's just laziness to lay people. If you don't know how a hospital unit is actually ran then don't talk smack. Workloads come in waves and usually places work with skeleton crews and there's lots of turnovers everywhere cuz everywhere sucks to work. Family is always hateful, the old people are always hateful and then you get people getting mad at you when you're not the one that makes the stupid rules and if you don't enforce them you will get canned and open yourself up to all kinds of legal lawsuits
This is the truth, everyone is compartmentalized and intervening in someone elses assignment is usually not appreciated or worse. I'm concerned that you've been on a medical floor too long, though. Try to move to surgery or something.
My life is going through a really rough patch and im hyper sensitive. My thyroid level is low and I have no energy and they just got me on a new dose (had it taken out recently). My gallbladder bisnbad and has been causing me pain for months and I get it out on Jan 5th. I have a thoracic back hernia causing me pain for the last 7 years that nothing has worked on and I had been doing ok on pain management meds and had been walking a few miles a couple days a week then earlier this year the pain shot up and I can barely make it through my job and my activity level has gone to nothing. An epidural lasted 2 weeks of a breather then it was back to the marathon. I'm going across state at the end of the month to plead a doc to operate on me. A week ago my wife had an ectopic pregnancy and her fallopian tube ruptured and she came very close to dying. I'm supposed to be the one taking care of her now and our kids, but moving is painful and life is like a nightmare I can't wake up from. I suffer from depression too and am on meds for it and my mind goes on quite the roller coaster ride at any given point throughout the day and I've been quite erratic. I'm hoping this next year goes better.
Good heavens. You must be tough to have gotten through so much. So much pain causes depression regardless of other factors and between the two it's easy to get hooked on meds and add another problem. I hope you can find someone to help you sort things out and get your footing. God bless.
edit: And seriously, medical floors are frustrating and depressing. In view of your back pain, you might think about working in an office or something.
Uh sounds to me like you're in the wrong profession. Being an RN means you're supposed to help people and oh, NURSE people. So if some family member comes up to you and needs help, then you should help them and that means finding them help, even if they're not your assigned patient. Otherwise, why are you there? You're everything that's wrong with the medical profession.
I called the patients nurse and let them know the family member was really mad about them needing to go to the bathroom. We do find help, but typically the patient won't have used the call light and will have just told the cleaning lady or the wrong staff what they want and then get all mad when nothing gets done and instead of speaking up sooner again they wait til they are fuming before they say anything else and it makes much ado about something that could've been avoided so easily.
One time a family member told the tech they wanted wanted an x-ray update on their family member, the tech told me, and I was doing my job and helping my patients and in a great mood. When I was done with what I was doing, I went to the room and the family member then started immediately yelling at me about how long she had been waiting. It was only 20 minutes.
Older people can be nice and sweet, but some lose the patience they had in their earlier years and they get stuck in their routine and being in the hospital gets them out of that routine so they are unhappy and mad and you're the one they take all their frustration out on.
Medical staff needs their downtime for charting and to mentally and physically recharge. Burnout is a huge problem in the profession. People assume the staff is just sitting there doing nothing and is therefore just lazy, and it's ridiculous.
I do my best to take care of my patients, and how dare I get mad when some random guy starts yelling at me for a patient that's not even mine. There's no downtime to destress and then you have to deal with verbal abuse coming from patients and more commonly family members. Before I left work last night I consoled one of the secretaries who was crying because a family member had yelled at her over a purse and she had no clue who the patient was or control about it. That's not the first time she's been yelled at by family recently and she's applied for a job elsewhere.
It's easy to judge us all as being horrible people, but the system sucks and needs an overhaul. The people at the top in administration screw us over with staffing and it burns us out and makes it rougher on our patients. I do I best I can, but we hire quite a few bums out of school and management wants us all to help them, but they can't even do the basics and are perpetually behind. When they work I'm picking up the slack and teaching them basic stuff that could save some people's lives like don't shoot the cathflo you put in a picc line into the patient after it's done, but to pull it out in some blood and discard it. A nurse screwed up like that months ago and almost killed someone cuz our training sucks and we don't hire good GNs and so while I may be everything wrong with nursing I'm the one telling people that this guy has cold antibodies for his blood and needs it warmed up or else you risk a rejection reaction, and the night nurse goes oh really, the last time they gave it to him without warming it up, even though the warmers been in his room for weeks.
Like I said earlier, you choose a profession to console and help NURSE and heal people. If you didn't know that people would be upset when their family member is in pain, under duress, scared, at one of their worst times in their life, that's not anyone's problem but your own. It comes with the territory. Either develop thick skin and realize it's part of your job or don't and find another profession.
She could helpfully help an unknown patient and make them worse because she doesn't know some important detail, even about something that seems as simple as getting a demented 200 lb person with two IVs to the bathroom. Also, she would then be taking time from her own. Getting the responsible person to do the job and/or changing the way work is divided is a safer solution for everyone.
Except keep you from your wife and baby. Play the game while you have to.
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With a baby on the way, they only have to have you removed and you’ve missed it. You can win in court later, but it will never replace what you’ve missed. OPs wife isn’t in labor, but the point is still valid.
As I heard that I was in an almost empty hospital watching them deny entry to my dying friends wife.good goverment sponsored times.
https://twitter.com/WayneDupreeShow/status/1341020665856536577?s=20
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Don't think any healthcare provider made these statements
Well that sucks but thankfully Mom and baby are ok. Hope everything goes well for you this night and the coming days.
"DITTO"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FORCE YOUR WAY IN>
DON"T LET THEM STOP YOU>
YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE THERE AS NEXT OF KIN AND COVID DOES NOT CHANGE YOUR RIGHTS AS A FATHER AND HUSBAND
WORSE TO WORSE THEY GET COPS WHO WILL LET YOU GO BACK TO SEE YOUR WIFE.
Everyone clap for the fucking idiot.
Lol that's not how any of this works
Wasnt it the leftists who cried about family separation...funny how things changed...
Fucking this. I have actual experience on the border and people have no idea about the cartel child slave trade.
Becoz CNN, or any leftist outlet, isn't in the business of bringing truth to the people, just lies and coverups. If the media were only legitimate, we'd be so far along as a country, as a people, but no, lefturds want misery and death at every turn.
Yup...
Remember when Bill Clinton sent guys with automatic weapons after a small Cuban boy in a closet?
Only matters if they are "black and brown bodies".
Covid nazis must hang! Seriously, this fascist bullshit needs to end yesterday or else (hopefully).
Wait until they start to force quarantine people away from their families because of COVID21
Another reason it’s TRUMP 2020 or bust for the USA. The deep state will have their way with the American people like a millionaire with a Vegas whore otherwise. No thanks.
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Women in cages!
Those eyes. Those are eyes of a person who will NEVER GIVE UP!!!
I only got denied being present for ultrasound visits. I cannot imagine what this man must be experiencing. God please watch over this family in their desperate time.
Focus on the big picture for now....your family is OK.....nothing else matters right now.
Good luck with your future pede!
That's not the big picture. People need to start fighting against this shit. Next step will be you can't see your wife and kid for a month because they need to be quarantined longer.
The big picture is keeping OP's son from living in a communist world.
Well said. Commies need eradication!
👆here it is. 👍
That hospital looks absolutely swamped with Covid patients.
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT CAPACITY
It’s just a lull between ambulance loads of dead bodies, you science hater.
I knew if I scrolled down far enough somebody would point this out.
The staff has an awesome vaccine cancer ready to go. They're rehearsing in the lounge.
It is amazing how much ERs empty out on holidays, vs everyone using them instead of having a primary care physician the rest of the year.
It's lower than last year. Lol
And I bet they gave you new masks instead of letting you use your own... why? Because everyone’s masks are filled with bacteria and they don’t want that shit in the hospital so they give you new ones... COVID is a disgusting lie.
Revolting
Glad she's ok, but what the fuck- YOU WERE SITTING NEXT TO YOUR WIFE IN THE CAR.. You're allowed in the hospital to sit and wait, by the people who are also working with the people allowed in your wives' room....... Logic is gone.
Science!
... is dead.
Replaced by the State.
Wow. That is unbelievably retarded. Not just retarded but literally senseless with zero logic whatsoever.
My nephew had a compound fracture of his arm. Bone through skin, cut a vein and the little kid was leakin like a stuck pig. Hospital would only let 1 parent in to go with him. Fuckin retarded rules.
Exactly. I could scream at the utter stupidity. And most people just accept it. THINK PEOPLE THINK!
Well, they think he wears a mask in his car like they do.
Godspeed. Stay strong my friend. Wish the lady and child good health
❕This claim about election fraud is disputed
Feel for ya. My mother 85, had hip surgery and I couldn't get into the hospital or visit.
That is fucking criminal.
She is one of the few people that could probably keel from it.
Update. My wife and I are now in the birthing center. Apparently this wing of the hospital is more covid resistant because she is allowed one visitor over here. Her and baby are doing well as far as all signs tell. Very early stages of labor right now with contractions every 5 minutes or so. We could be having us a Christmas baby. Thank you everyone for the updoots and well wishes. I will not raise my new baby or other children in a communist country. Keep up the good fight everyone.
Congratulations, Erosluv! We’re all rooting for your Baby Pede! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Just happened to find your thread tonight... have spoken a prayer to wish your family blessings and joy and vibrant health. Congratulations, papapede. YOU GOT THIS.
Merry Christmas Pede! Congratulations! Couldn't imagine life without any one of my kids! What a great twist this thread has taken. Hope all goes well!
What a F**king disgrace . Shame on the staff for complying
Well, to be fair, they had tiktok dance practice... so they were short staffed.
No one is going to respect or trust the medical industry after this crap.
My friend you look weary, worried, and furious all at the same time. I'm feeling all that on your behalf. God will watch over your precious wife and baby. SICK that you can't be with them.
you were already "with" her, that's where the baby came from. I don't get it.
For case counts they assume everyone in your house has it if one person has it.
But for hospital visits if you were in the car together it’s possible one does and one doesn’t.
Follow the science bigot!
Still counting ballots so its not over until they count 1 billion for Biden.
You see, lefties don't sleep with their wife. Tyrone does.
We will pray for you guys. Keep us posted.
The super stupid thing about this is that, if covid were a real pandemic, they would actually reduce potential exposure by keeping family units all in the same place.
If a husband and wife are actually infected but you put one in a room and the other in the waiting room now you have TWO rooms where transmission is possible.
It’s like pinwheeling your arms in an elevator to fill the air with fart stink.
Praying for you and your family Pede.
roflmao
I like to carry a file folder for a more discreet removal method. That's just me tho.
I think you just figured out why they are doing this. Trying to make this china flu as bad as possible.
Yea, I was gonna point out some logical flaws with this kind of protocol, then I just got really mad thinking about it and it created a mental feedback loop and now I'm just too angry to type it all out. Let me catch some bumblefuckin hospital bullshitters trying to keep me from my pregnant wife.
I'm either in that room or they're putting me in the back of car. My wife understands that under no circumstances are either one of us to be at a hospital alone. If we arrive together we go in together and if she or I arrives after the hospital has 5 minutes to comply with out wishes or we're checking ourselves out. It's sad as FUCK that we feel the need to come up with basically an emergency disaster plan for unavoidable hospital trips.
Glad the family is okay. Sucks that you had to go through all that but you did an awesome job reporting on the covid hoax.
Merry Christmas, congrats on the Baby.
God Bless y'all, be safe and rest as you can, sounds like you're fixing to be busy.
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The rule of the ED is ask forgiveness, not permission. Be polite, be confident and be firm.
ED?
Emergency department
I swear there was a video of a guy going into an empty hospital and it looked JUST like the room in this picture
That's fucking so stupid you can't be with her. Go charge in there and be with her.
Did you tell them you have a magic mask on?
Thank God your family is ok. Fuck covid. We will get through this and then we need to make them pay.
holy shit man. i wish you and your family all the best. my wife is nine months pregnant, due any day now, bay area CA, ive only been allowed to two appointments. shes due any day now, and im in the same dilemma. good luck with your life, MAGA is strong!
You’re about to be a dad! Congratulations and merry Christmas!
I hope the baby is born in 2020... you get the tax break for that year then...
Both of my kids were born in December, can confirm, awesome tax breaks lol
Or give her a vaccine
The general public has no idea how much nurses sit on their ass.
I used to work as a CNA, this statement is very true.
Fucking this. 80% of them are either sluts flashing their tits to whoever's next on the cock carousel or their fat slag Karens. I swear there may be only two or three good nurses in any given hospital and they're probably guys.
Prayers man. Protect the mama pede.
Same exact thing happened to my wife March 2020. Ran sideways into a snow plow. Her and baby girl were safe. Sending prayers to you all fellow pede.
God bless this family 👪
“Overrunning the healthcare system”
The hallways are so empty you can run down them.
Praying for you, your wife and the little one. Stay calm for them, for now. At some point, though, we all have to protest all this nonsense.
Best thing, EVERYONE IS OK!!
Typical...so fucking typical. I can’t wait until this bullshit ends, either by gun or by deal
Sending you hugs pede! Merry Christmas and Praise God that she and the baby are ok. That's a real Christmas Gift, you know. It could be a different post. So just know you are surrounded by prayer from all over the world right now. A lot of things don't make sense, but LOVE always Trumps bad situations like this, Thank God that you have a good hospital she and your baby could go to.
Prayers for you, the wife, and the little one.
It's inhumane what is going on.
God bless you and your family. I hope everyone is ok.
Stay strong!!! I'd be losing my shit right now.
Stay strong, pede. We are thinking about you, your wife, and your child.
Thor?? Is that you??
Praying for you all.
I blame the CCP Democrats for wickedness such as this. You should be able to be with your wife. I just said a prayer for you all. God bless you, and congratulations that your new child is on the way!
CCP RINOs seem to be okay with it as well as they ride their private jets to their private islands for extravagant celebrations.
Lest we forget! You are right to point this out!
Prayers. Hang in there!
Prayers for you, your wife and your baby.