Just because it was a free speech platform doesn't mean it was a place with good ideas being shared. We don't let shit ideas on thedonald for good reason.
They did, after Reddit banned their sub the pizzagate voat was super active for quite a while. Last time I went there tho it had died down and they made it impossible to retrieve my account password so I stopped checking it as much on my phone. There was a point where their horror movie voat and resident evil voat were places that we could almost get discussion going but alas no one posted
I've contemplated building a fully censorship free forum... but I mean fully censorship free.. and that's a problem because it leaves it ripe for abuse.
I would literally delete every line of code that allowed for removing content from the site and have the entire site open source and backed up, the only thing that can be done is mark content as a different category - and all categories would be visible (you can choose to hide them from your own feed but not remove them from everyone else's).
This design would heavily rely on preventing submissions from new or unverified users... because no submission can be deleted and every edit would be visible.
A shit ton of work and I just don't have the time, though.
I think a 'if its legal, its uncensored' approach would be ok with most people.
The reddit system of 'opt in' forums should work, just don't have a moderated frontpage.
Instead have a big disclaimer that the site is unmoderated, and any legal speech may be shared.
Make everyone have a username and password to access the site, and have nsfw turned on by default on all new accounts, as well as 'confirm you have read the sidebar before you are allowed to see content' to stop people from accidentally getting spacedicked.
Leave moderation up to the individual subs, only sitewide rule is that your subs moderation rules must be explicitly stated in the sidebar and enforced. Arbitrary enforcement of unstated rules will result in public ridicule.
You could even have a flag for posts that mods can flip that hides them rather than deletes them. Option for users to see a chronological list of moderated posts. That way you can see who did what, and why. Ultimate accountability.
That way you can have /thedonald with rule 'no commie shills' and /reeeeee with the rule 'no bad orange man' exist on the same platform.
I like the way you think! Allowing moderation to hide the content and anyone to browse it and see who hid it (and why) would be very awesome... but I hadn't even considered the pedo fuckers... the data would be widely distributed and would be literally impossible to delete with the design I have in mind, which is essentially torrent meeting blockchain...
Maybe a way to limit certain classes of moderated data to people with confirmed identities (such as police) would work... have all data associated with the content instantly available for police to investigate despite that data not being actually deleted.
I think voat sucked because it was an “everything” board that didn’t talk about everything, and if you tried to or even made your own community for whatever it was you wanted to talk about, it always had the political slant. Everything anyone who used the site said was filtered through that prism.
And even though I agreed with the general political slant of Voat it was still annoying if you just wanted to talk about something without running it through that political prism.
Same problem with Gab.
Obviously everything here on TD is that way to, but this is a political forum and I come here specifically for that. If I want to talk about say, back to the future as a movie or whatever, sometimes I just want to talk about the movie as a movie as a movie, not some piece of political culture within the left right spectrum or whatever.
I tried and lasted a few days before I just couldn't. Place filled up with conspirafags and racists instantly.
I lasted 90 minutes on that cesspool .. and I'm far from a sensitive prude fag.
Voat was cancer.
Amen
Just because it was a free speech platform doesn't mean it was a place with good ideas being shared. We don't let shit ideas on thedonald for good reason.
Then fuck off to gab or something, faggot.
lol! I'm a Q fag because I think voat was garbage. Yeah, you're fucking stupider than I though. Must be a liberal.
Didnt theydo alot of pizzagate reseaech there?
They did, after Reddit banned their sub the pizzagate voat was super active for quite a while. Last time I went there tho it had died down and they made it impossible to retrieve my account password so I stopped checking it as much on my phone. There was a point where their horror movie voat and resident evil voat were places that we could almost get discussion going but alas no one posted
I've contemplated building a fully censorship free forum... but I mean fully censorship free.. and that's a problem because it leaves it ripe for abuse.
I would literally delete every line of code that allowed for removing content from the site and have the entire site open source and backed up, the only thing that can be done is mark content as a different category - and all categories would be visible (you can choose to hide them from your own feed but not remove them from everyone else's).
This design would heavily rely on preventing submissions from new or unverified users... because no submission can be deleted and every edit would be visible.
A shit ton of work and I just don't have the time, though.
Problem is child abuse. You really don't want to facilitate that.
I think a 'if its legal, its uncensored' approach would be ok with most people.
The reddit system of 'opt in' forums should work, just don't have a moderated frontpage. Instead have a big disclaimer that the site is unmoderated, and any legal speech may be shared.
Make everyone have a username and password to access the site, and have nsfw turned on by default on all new accounts, as well as 'confirm you have read the sidebar before you are allowed to see content' to stop people from accidentally getting spacedicked.
Leave moderation up to the individual subs, only sitewide rule is that your subs moderation rules must be explicitly stated in the sidebar and enforced. Arbitrary enforcement of unstated rules will result in public ridicule.
You could even have a flag for posts that mods can flip that hides them rather than deletes them. Option for users to see a chronological list of moderated posts. That way you can see who did what, and why. Ultimate accountability.
That way you can have /thedonald with rule 'no commie shills' and /reeeeee with the rule 'no bad orange man' exist on the same platform.
I like the way you think! Allowing moderation to hide the content and anyone to browse it and see who hid it (and why) would be very awesome... but I hadn't even considered the pedo fuckers... the data would be widely distributed and would be literally impossible to delete with the design I have in mind, which is essentially torrent meeting blockchain...
Maybe a way to limit certain classes of moderated data to people with confirmed identities (such as police) would work... have all data associated with the content instantly available for police to investigate despite that data not being actually deleted.
Depends on who is deciding what legal is. That being said, Bitchute was so full of racism and other garbage that I almost never go there.
The country hosting the server's laws...
Which has absolutely no impact. Im in NZ and we can't stop americans selling guns online, why should we be able to control what they say online.
Good. If it's illegal in britain and gets banned in britain, I dont care, I'm American.
If you truly are platform you have nothing to worry about. Section 230 repeal is platforms acting liking publishers will be treated as publishers.
I think voat sucked because it was an “everything” board that didn’t talk about everything, and if you tried to or even made your own community for whatever it was you wanted to talk about, it always had the political slant. Everything anyone who used the site said was filtered through that prism.
And even though I agreed with the general political slant of Voat it was still annoying if you just wanted to talk about something without running it through that political prism.
Same problem with Gab.
Obviously everything here on TD is that way to, but this is a political forum and I come here specifically for that. If I want to talk about say, back to the future as a movie or whatever, sometimes I just want to talk about the movie as a movie as a movie, not some piece of political culture within the left right spectrum or whatever.
Great Scott!!!
Yeah that’s exactly it, couldn’t even talk about the new pet semetary without it getting super racist and stuff.
i think one of the mods had a shit x mas seems like alot of accounts got axed
I got banned because I was mass-flagged by cancel commies but was restored after messaging the mods. Maybe try again?
Hope you enjoyed the $5000 in Bitcoin I gave you to get started years ago. I expected Reddit 2.0. Instead, got a cesspool.
" I expected Reddit 2.0. Instead, got a cesspool."
So you got what you paid for?
Touché
It was really bad and dumb. I couldn't figure out show many upvotes I was allowed. Really dumb.
That place was a shit hole from pretty much day one.