I hate to say it, but supporting free speech won’t make you rich. Manipulating algorithms to pay for advertisers and other powerful groups is what pays the bills. Unfortunately, advertisers are hesitant to advertise on sites that call for throwing communists out of helicopters and executing Democrat traitors.
He was saying how his “angel” investor backed out, denying the financial support needed to keep Voat afloat. He ran out of money, and chose today for its symbolic value to shut it down.
That's why we need low-cost peer-to-peer online infrastructure like IPFS. No monolithic centralized servers, just light-weight API services for things like pubsub reply notifications, search, etc - which can also be decentralized.
The ideal is for everyone to host their own content and syndicate other people's content they like. Everyone should also have a VPS for backup in case their home connection goes down. Also useful to host your own VPN (less likely to spy on you than a big "trust us we don't log" VPN provider).
I actually logged on this morning, first time in awhile. I didn't know they were shutting down since I'm not that active there. Most of the members were talking about moving to poal.co
Just figured I'd pass the info along for anyone interested.
Didn't have time to fully scrape Voat, even for just my own stuff, because it kept going down temporarily long before it died for good...
Thank goodness for SearchVoat.co, but no telling how long that will stay up. Hope it raises access limits (200 a day). I'm trying to get it to archive.org (archive.is blocks all scripting) so everyone could scrape Voat from there.
Its truth that offends you, lets be honest. You just cry 'muh raysis' because you've been coddled your entire life. Everyone that doesn't spoon feed you is a 'raysis'.
I know a lot of White Nationalists (ideally those who want to secede and start new countries without violating NAP, like Christopher Cantwell).
And even they don't fit the "being a complete faggot to other people because of their skin color" accusation. They want to be left alone and do their thing, which is their Right. They respect Black people like Walter E Williams, Thomas Sowell, etc who aren't commies and respect their Rights.
I agree it is difficult, but i try to operate from first principles.
In your scenario where everthing goes, except child exploitation, you could be like 4ch/8kun. But, even without user filters, the mere addition of a voting system delt with 90% of edgelord posts.
The rest was user controlled filters.
I totally understand why TD can't go that route, they are essentially trumps internet PR dept.
My god i salute you, 'new' is an absolute wasteland. Because there are people like you nipping the real retards in the bud most people never see the trash.
It just seems suspicious that any site that is even remotely free speech is labeled right-wing, nazi, fascist, etc... and suppressed or maginalized. But any far left sympathetic sites sail along effortlessly even while imposing the most despotic censorship.
I like trump a lot, but let's face it: with a few exceptions he basically has the policies of a 1970's democrat, but he is labeled a far right nazi dictator.
TD is slightly right and they do quite a bit of filtering, they are still labeled the same as 4chan.
Just shows you how far left the current 'center' is.
I hate to say it, but supporting free speech won’t make you rich. Manipulating algorithms to pay for advertisers and other powerful groups is what pays the bills. Unfortunately, advertisers are hesitant to advertise on sites that call for throwing communists out of helicopters and executing Democrat traitors.
I'm somewhat inclined to agree. But voat could have been saved.
I think Put was burned out, and i can see why.
He was saying how his “angel” investor backed out, denying the financial support needed to keep Voat afloat. He ran out of money, and chose today for its symbolic value to shut it down.
Yeah. But when people offered help, including 100% free hosting, he didn't respond.
I think it was both factors.
If you have to pay it will never be anonymous. Without anonymity, true free expression will never happen.
That's why we need low-cost peer-to-peer online infrastructure like IPFS. No monolithic centralized servers, just light-weight API services for things like pubsub reply notifications, search, etc - which can also be decentralized.
The ideal is for everyone to host their own content and syndicate other people's content they like. Everyone should also have a VPS for backup in case their home connection goes down. Also useful to host your own VPN (less likely to spy on you than a big "trust us we don't log" VPN provider).
I actually logged on this morning, first time in awhile. I didn't know they were shutting down since I'm not that active there. Most of the members were talking about moving to poal.co
Just figured I'd pass the info along for anyone interested.
It's like having a death in the family... 😭
Didn't have time to fully scrape Voat, even for just my own stuff, because it kept going down temporarily long before it died for good...
Thank goodness for SearchVoat.co, but no telling how long that will stay up. Hope it raises access limits (200 a day). I'm trying to get it to archive.org (archive.is blocks all scripting) so everyone could scrape Voat from there.
Here try this. Took me several hours just before Voat went for good: https://archive.is/kWcGy
A truly sad day.
Cry more. Free speech means you have to develop your own filters, OR stop being such a pussy.
Based on what, defense of free speech?
Its truth that offends you, lets be honest. You just cry 'muh raysis' because you've been coddled your entire life. Everyone that doesn't spoon feed you is a 'raysis'.
People will be mean because of your color,weight,sex,sexual orientation, Religious preferences.. seriously, where would you draw the line?
Sure, they’re morons but when you censor them I’m not far behind.
If you doubt this look at the situation in the UK where police can literally arrest you in your home for insulting religion.
How far are you willing to go??
Ok
I know a lot of White Nationalists (ideally those who want to secede and start new countries without violating NAP, like Christopher Cantwell).
And even they don't fit the "being a complete faggot to other people because of their skin color" accusation. They want to be left alone and do their thing, which is their Right. They respect Black people like Walter E Williams, Thomas Sowell, etc who aren't commies and respect their Rights.
That's a great compliment for my ethnic group. ☺️
I believe that Dutch and the Swiss are second.
I can't agree.
If they are truly minority fringe topics, they would not really garner many votes.
Usually the more you clamp down the more people upvote to "stick it" to the rule makers.
Just allow for the tools for people to filter and they will do so.
I agree it is difficult, but i try to operate from first principles.
In your scenario where everthing goes, except child exploitation, you could be like 4ch/8kun. But, even without user filters, the mere addition of a voting system delt with 90% of edgelord posts.
The rest was user controlled filters.
I totally understand why TD can't go that route, they are essentially trumps internet PR dept.
True.
My god i salute you, 'new' is an absolute wasteland. Because there are people like you nipping the real retards in the bud most people never see the trash.
It just seems suspicious that any site that is even remotely free speech is labeled right-wing, nazi, fascist, etc... and suppressed or maginalized. But any far left sympathetic sites sail along effortlessly even while imposing the most despotic censorship.
I like trump a lot, but let's face it: with a few exceptions he basically has the policies of a 1970's democrat, but he is labeled a far right nazi dictator.
TD is slightly right and they do quite a bit of filtering, they are still labeled the same as 4chan.
Just shows you how far left the current 'center' is.
I'm literally a Jew, and I was never "bombarded" on voat.
A few idiots say mean things, but that's life - quit whining.