It's the same thing whether on like FB or IRL (in this case my mom) whenever I make an assertion about fake news or anything related the other side will either resort to:
A. Passive aggressive name calling or B. "Oh you just think you know Everything..." type of response
Any yall feel me on this one?
Oh, it is worse if you show them multiple articles from their preferred sources that prove to be fake, or do a complete 180. Or, show them they were wrong about whatever the fuck they are convinced they were right about.
Or, they say: well, see, as more facts emerged, they were reported. While refusing to acknowledge the end result of this, that their original fact set was wrong to begin with, as proven by their own news sources, and they double down by refusing to accept the end result as fact at all.
Then they get pissed off, refuse to call out their own sources, and stop talking to you.
Which, come to think of it, is great. Winning!
The stop talking thing is hilarious, but also a bit frustrating. It is how every election fraud conversation I have goes (with a lefty). Do you actually believe there is election fraud? it is baseless and there is no evidence. So I show them mountains of evidence. Then they say, I'm not gonna have this conversation with you, and end it lol.
Yep. I keep it short and sweet and show them how several states involved broke their own constitutions and laws. And how NY was still counting votes after they sent electors.
If they are really stupid and say there are no verified cases of voter fraud anywhere, I show them MY TWO PERSONAL CASES, one from this election and one from 2016. In AZ.
Then they stop talking to me, usually with "well then you are biased" or something equally idiotic.
yup, here is the thing. I took the allegations of Russia interference seriously. I was skeptical, but I looked at it and waited for the evidence. They never confirmed evidence. Even under oath they couldn't explain what it was. There were like 1 or 2 whistle blowers. This time around there are 1000s of affidavits, which in and of itself is more credible evidence than anything in the Russia collusion scandal. Also they BELIEVED that Russia rigged an election, but now it is impossible? It is so intellectually dishonest it hurts!
I, on the other hand, didn't take the Russia stuff seriously. I have been watching these yoyos long enough to recognize typical bullshit and how they normally frame it. I did watch for evidence, and I had a hat ready to eat if any substantive evidence emerged.
This time, totally different. November 3rd they declared open war when they stopped the count. I recognized that and have acted accordingly since November 4th. I suspected they were gearing up when I saw so many states openly setting up for illegal elections, but I was still dumbfounded when they actually did it and doubled down on it.
But unlike a lot of people, I have been watching the advance of this war for over 3 decades (it started in the early 1900s, long before I was born). I have been watching and fighting since the late 1970s. Whole time everyone has teased me about my massive tin foil hat collection. Now at least the people in my immediate social circle realize I am right lol. And people here are coming to the realization that no matter what happens Jan 20, we are in deep shit.