I would imagine that Pence understands that his political career is over if he doesn't refuse to certify the electors with all the evidence (despite the horrific injustice of judges refusing to adjudicate any of it), refusal to cooperate with investigations, and unconstitutional changes to election laws. Pence will forever be seen as a traitor if he certifies an obvious CCP puppet installation.
It’s not about optics. Never has been. It’s about letting the Democrats hang themselves with a long rope. Long enough to make it effective. We must exhaust the legal approach before the revolutionary approach. I don’t disagree with the sentiment you all have, but look at who and what’s been exposed as recent as all things in the past 2 months, but also since Trump became president.
If he certifies the CCP candidate, none of that matters. The country becomes a puppet state of the CCP and our politicians are selected not elected. He can't torpedo his career when we no longer have fair elections. Maybe the CCP has a reward waiting for him, or has threatened him. Doesn't matter which. Never discount the probability of Republicans betraying us.
Imo, Pence like many others are wanting this to LEGALLY play out in the States first. If you jump in too early and just snag it without letting it play out by the BEST sources (State Legislators, Electors etc) you can create a serious problem w/ OPTICS -public perception of 'stealing' it. Trump needs this to be as legit as possible.
I wouldn't want Pence acting before Cmas while cases are still ongoing & pending. (I mean I would just to end this BS, but it's not the best path for Trump's next 4 yrs plus could ruin the GA runoffs)
Fine, lack strategy... LOSE the independents and moderates support now that they're seeing this for what it is.
Premature _______ anything can be as bad as winning but losing the people who you need supporting you if you do it the right way.
Taking it thru Pence WAS NEVER THE FIRST GOAL AND STILL ISN'T. You notice they're pushing this for the end.
Pence firing too soon would be an optics disaster - and right before Christmas. A stupid move
This, I was so disappointed in him on the 23rd when I went to bed.
He's a Bush guy.
I would imagine that Pence understands that his political career is over if he doesn't refuse to certify the electors with all the evidence (despite the horrific injustice of judges refusing to adjudicate any of it), refusal to cooperate with investigations, and unconstitutional changes to election laws. Pence will forever be seen as a traitor if he certifies an obvious CCP puppet installation.
It’s not about optics. Never has been. It’s about letting the Democrats hang themselves with a long rope. Long enough to make it effective. We must exhaust the legal approach before the revolutionary approach. I don’t disagree with the sentiment you all have, but look at who and what’s been exposed as recent as all things in the past 2 months, but also since Trump became president.
If he certifies the CCP candidate, none of that matters. The country becomes a puppet state of the CCP and our politicians are selected not elected. He can't torpedo his career when we no longer have fair elections. Maybe the CCP has a reward waiting for him, or has threatened him. Doesn't matter which. Never discount the probability of Republicans betraying us.
Imo, Pence like many others are wanting this to LEGALLY play out in the States first. If you jump in too early and just snag it without letting it play out by the BEST sources (State Legislators, Electors etc) you can create a serious problem w/ OPTICS -public perception of 'stealing' it. Trump needs this to be as legit as possible. I wouldn't want Pence acting before Cmas while cases are still ongoing & pending. (I mean I would just to end this BS, but it's not the best path for Trump's next 4 yrs plus could ruin the GA runoffs)
How about the optics of letting a sham presidency go on and on?
Trump is surrounded by swamp, everywhere. I don't trust anybody.
Fair enough.
Enough with the optics already
Fine, lack strategy... LOSE the independents and moderates support now that they're seeing this for what it is. Premature _______ anything can be as bad as winning but losing the people who you need supporting you if you do it the right way. Taking it thru Pence WAS NEVER THE FIRST GOAL AND STILL ISN'T. You notice they're pushing this for the end.
Pence firing too soon would be an optics disaster - and right before Christmas. A stupid move
There are still patriots in this country we need to gain. Redpills!