If you're going to futilely cling to the comically absurd notion that the left/right-wing verbiage came from Christianity and not the French Revolution, then there's no more discussion to be had here.
In the specific context of the left- and right- sides of parliament, they were not for anarchy, but when the terms became generalized and not referring to specific seating arrangements in the house of parliament, they came to mean abstract ideas that each of those parties represented.
And if you take the abstract idea represented by the people who sat on the right side of the hall to its logical extreme, you get anarchy. Which is why anarchists are the extreme right wing, not the "normal" right wing.
And since we're not talking about the specific seating arrangements of the house of parliament in France at that time, but rather the abstract civic principles they represent, and then taking those ideas to the extreme, I do believe I'm still correct.
They most certainly were. What the Jacobins did made that abundantly clear. And then, once their bloodlust was initially slated, the tyranny truly began. Leftism is always both anarchy and tyranny, it just depends on which side of their bipolar, psychotic ideology is dominant at any one time. It's why they're so comfortable with their own hypocrisy, it's why they seem schizophrenic.
Because they are.
And if you take the abstract idea represented by the people who sat on the right side of the hall to its logical extreme
What abstract idea? Anarchy, or any minimization thereof, was not part of the ideology of the "Vive le Roi" crowd. Furthermore, I reject the idea that the concept of individual liberty is inherently part of the same scale as anarchism.
Anarchism explicitly implies a lack of order, one in which individual liberties are not respected due to the chaos. An orderly structure is the only one in which individual liberties(legitimate ones anyway, not made up bullshit like muh 113 genders) can actually exist and be respected outside of the length of your own proverbial sword arm.
You've attached a connotation of moral definitiveness to every political term you've used. Political terms are not supposed to have moral connotation, though fair analysis of ideas in practice tend to reach the same result. Your definitions are incorrect and this conversation is literally impossible to continue.
Lol. K.
If you're going to futilely cling to the comically absurd notion that the left/right-wing verbiage came from Christianity and not the French Revolution, then there's no more discussion to be had here.
The French Revolution is what I'm talking about. In which the right had not one damn thing to do with anarchy. That's the entire friggin point.
In the specific context of the left- and right- sides of parliament, they were not for anarchy, but when the terms became generalized and not referring to specific seating arrangements in the house of parliament, they came to mean abstract ideas that each of those parties represented.
And if you take the abstract idea represented by the people who sat on the right side of the hall to its logical extreme, you get anarchy. Which is why anarchists are the extreme right wing, not the "normal" right wing.
And since we're not talking about the specific seating arrangements of the house of parliament in France at that time, but rather the abstract civic principles they represent, and then taking those ideas to the extreme, I do believe I'm still correct.
They most certainly were. What the Jacobins did made that abundantly clear. And then, once their bloodlust was initially slated, the tyranny truly began. Leftism is always both anarchy and tyranny, it just depends on which side of their bipolar, psychotic ideology is dominant at any one time. It's why they're so comfortable with their own hypocrisy, it's why they seem schizophrenic.
Because they are.
What abstract idea? Anarchy, or any minimization thereof, was not part of the ideology of the "Vive le Roi" crowd. Furthermore, I reject the idea that the concept of individual liberty is inherently part of the same scale as anarchism.
Anarchism explicitly implies a lack of order, one in which individual liberties are not respected due to the chaos. An orderly structure is the only one in which individual liberties(legitimate ones anyway, not made up bullshit like muh 113 genders) can actually exist and be respected outside of the length of your own proverbial sword arm.
You've attached a connotation of moral definitiveness to every political term you've used. Political terms are not supposed to have moral connotation, though fair analysis of ideas in practice tend to reach the same result. Your definitions are incorrect and this conversation is literally impossible to continue.