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We are the line. (media.patriots.win)
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Kaarous 0 points ago +1 / -1

came from Christianity and not the French Revolution

The French Revolution is what I'm talking about. In which the right had not one damn thing to do with anarchy. That's the entire friggin point.

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trollkin0331 -1 points ago +1 / -2

In the specific context of the left- and right- sides of parliament, they were not for anarchy, but when the terms became generalized and not referring to specific seating arrangements in the house of parliament, they came to mean abstract ideas that each of those parties represented.

And if you take the abstract idea represented by the people who sat on the right side of the hall to its logical extreme, you get anarchy. Which is why anarchists are the extreme right wing, not the "normal" right wing.

And since we're not talking about the specific seating arrangements of the house of parliament in France at that time, but rather the abstract civic principles they represent, and then taking those ideas to the extreme, I do believe I'm still correct.

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Kaarous 0 points ago +1 / -1

they were not for anarchy

They most certainly were. What the Jacobins did made that abundantly clear. And then, once their bloodlust was initially slated, the tyranny truly began. Leftism is always both anarchy and tyranny, it just depends on which side of their bipolar, psychotic ideology is dominant at any one time. It's why they're so comfortable with their own hypocrisy, it's why they seem schizophrenic.

Because they are.

And if you take the abstract idea represented by the people who sat on the right side of the hall to its logical extreme

What abstract idea? Anarchy, or any minimization thereof, was not part of the ideology of the "Vive le Roi" crowd. Furthermore, I reject the idea that the concept of individual liberty is inherently part of the same scale as anarchism.

Anarchism explicitly implies a lack of order, one in which individual liberties are not respected due to the chaos. An orderly structure is the only one in which individual liberties(legitimate ones anyway, not made up bullshit like muh 113 genders) can actually exist and be respected outside of the length of your own proverbial sword arm.

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trollkin0331 0 points ago +1 / -1

You've attached a connotation of moral definitiveness to every political term you've used. Political terms are not supposed to have moral connotation, though fair analysis of ideas in practice tend to reach the same result. Your definitions are incorrect and this conversation is literally impossible to continue.

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Kaarous 0 points ago +1 / -1

You've attached

I have not attached shit. The French Monarchists did not, at any level or in any regard, support anarchism or anything that could eventually evolve into anarchism.

You are the only one here to attach anything.

Political terms are not supposed to have moral connotation

Every political term has moral connotations. In large part because fully half the political spectrum is inherently evil.