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posted ago by BillsmafiaGG ago by BillsmafiaGG +13 / -0

Doesn’t need to be corruption.

Predictably, evidence of large scale fraud is too difficult to develop in a time frame that allows courts to overturn an election.

Note the multiple examples of elections actually overturned in court per Heritage Foundation’s database (https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?combine=&state=All&year=&case_type=All&fraud_type=24497&page=0)

These are almost all SINGLE DIGIT vote margins. Therefore, it stands to reason that the evidence of fraud could be developed and heard by a court in time. Understand that this is NOT proof that voter fraud only occurs in small batches. It only shows that courts are the appropriate venue to overturn elections when only small batches of evidence are needed.

By contrast, a large scale fraud indictment, such as this one reported in Politico claiming payoffs to “ring up” votes and buy entire elections (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/23/former-congressman-indicted-voter-fraud-bribery-charges-379935) tends to be based upon evidence developed over YEARS. These charges (no conviction yet) stem from 2014, 2015, and 2016 election cycles.

IMO the fact that fraud is not being either fully presented or heard by courts is irrelevant. Cases thrown out are irrelevant. Recent, small-scale fraud indictments/convictions are irrelevant in demonstrating that voter fraud is only “small scale.”

Large scale voter fraud in Nov 2020 is obvious from a common sense perspective. But the court system is not a venue that can or will handle it in a timely manner.

State legislatures must be the focus. They have full authority to make a common sense determination as to whether to strike electors.

If any of them point back to the courts as a way to undermine the credibility of fraud claims... that’s an irrelevant deflection. Courts are not built to swiftly reverse elections because of large fraud events. But the Constitution indicates that legislatures are. The buck stops with our state reps.

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kommiekrusher 3 points ago +3 / -0

Because they want their families to live

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Altrightythen 2 points ago +2 / -0

Bingo Boingo Bongo!

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BillsmafiaGG [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

That too. For sure.

But not logically necessary based on a survey of successful fraud cases. Judges appear to act only when each individual vote can be shown spoiled (single digit margins). The larger cases won’t be touched for years.

Mail-in ballots have caused such a mess that legislators alone are in a position to throw out areas with a failed election process, IMO.

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kommiekrusher 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree. The courts won't get our guy in; it will be the R legislatures

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gimmeabreak 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's simply the division of the branches of government. The legislatures all have it within their own authority to correct the current situation. If they are unwilling to do so, why would the judicial branch want to wade in on it? The courts are just telling them to clean up their own messes. This is also why Congress won't get fully involved in fixing this unless the State legislatures force them to by decertifying their state electors and certifying the electors sent up by the legislatures. They have to be the ones to initiate the Stop the Steal. If they decertify it forces the Congress to set aside the fraudulent electors, forces Pence to not count them and/or to count the alternate electors, and forces SCOTUS to deem it all Constitutional when the left litigates it after the fact. But it needs to start at the local level with the people who abdicated their authorities over their state's elections in the first place. The primary focus should have been on the state legislatures from the beginning which is why you saw Rudy and Jenna taking their road trip to the legislatures. If you live in one of those states you need to pressure your legislators. It is not yet too late.

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Shaffro 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because they are all crooks.

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Rinorooter 1 point ago +1 / -0

But our state legislatures are filled with cowards. Mine is anyway! Wait, no, mine is filled to the brim with Communists.

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