posted ago by MakeLiberalsCryAgain ago by MakeLiberalsCryAgain +7 / -1

I am seeing a lot of optimism about Jan 6th, and I don't want to burst any bubbles, but I'd like to point out the reality of the situation.

Step 1 is getting a Senator and a House Rep to object to a state's electoral votes. This will likely happen.

Step 2 happens after the objections. The House and Senate separate, and debate for 2 hours. Next, they vote. Here is the key that I think a lot of people are missing. We need a simple majority in order to sustain the objections. Since we do not have a Republican majority in the House, I don't see how this can happen. In fact, Sellout Mitch has already signaled he doesn't want the GOP objecting to the electors, so I doubt we even win in the Senate.

Step 3 is self-explanatory—we are fucked.

Summary: "The joint session does not act on any objections that are made. Instead, the joint session is suspended, the Senate withdraws from the House chamber, andeach house meets separately to debate the objection and vote whether, based on the objection, to count the vote or votes in question. Both houses must vote separately to agree to the objectionby simple majority. Otherwise, the objection fails and the vote or votes are counted. (3 U.S.C. §15 provides that “the two Houses concurrently may reject the vote or votes.”)

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32717.pdf

All these Congressman who are saying they will object are just virtue signaling. They know the outcome (as explained above), but they think this will make them look good.

Finally, the miracle scenario is a contigent election. It seems that everyone thinks this is what will happen on Jan. 6th. However, as explained above, this is extremely unlikely. IF both chambers sustained the objections, and no candidate got to 270, then the House would get to decide who is POTUS, and each state gets ONE vote.

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MakeLiberalsCryAgain [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yeah, that's sort of what I'm saying. Don't count on Congress to put this right because they will screw us just like the courts have.

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BudBurner 4 points ago +4 / -0

In a contingent election each state gets 1 vote and it's based on the states congressional majority. Republicans have more states so that means 4 more scoops boys.

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Major_Sleazebag 4 points ago +4 / -0

Assuming those GOP house members don’t betray...

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anteracorp 3 points ago +3 / -0

When the house votes, each state gets one vote... it's not about a majority of seats...

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MakeLiberalsCryAgain [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

That's the misconception I'm seeing on here, which is why I posted this. Each state gets one vote if it makes it all the way to a contigent election. In these initial steps where Congressmen can object, it's a majority vote. That's why we are screwed.

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anteracorp 1 point ago +1 / -0

Isn't there a time limit for the chambers? They can't meet forever can they?

Plus, you're assuming nothing from the 2018 EO will be invoked...

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anteracorp 1 point ago +1 / -0

The actionable items from his 2018 EO can be invoked at any time

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BabyGlockgunslinger1 1 point ago +1 / -0

That have 2 hrs. If not settled by then it goes to the house for a contingent election. At least that’s what understand.

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MakeLiberalsCryAgain [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think after the 2 hours, they vote.

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REDMARAUDER 2 points ago +2 / -0

There's a legal disagreement about how the House votes. Many Constitutional lawyers believe the House can only vote by state delegation

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MakeLiberalsCryAgain [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

If that's the case, then that would be wonderful. Problem is, who actually decides this? Just because some lawyers think something, doesn't mean the House will do it.

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Rabowers 1 point ago +1 / -0

Step four martial law and take it

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