If we keep giving out money, we go into massive debt, or inflation will destroy our currency. If Soros keeps putting in pro crime AGs + antifa/blm riots, property values will tank, and combined with business shutdowns, Chinese interests can buy up real estate with blessing from their cronies.
The only path that does not benefit China is to open up.
I'd be willing to take the debt if it's the cost of the military to end these tyrants and start locking them up in GITMO. Would be a start of getting the country back.
All chink debts are null and void, seize all property purchased by them take hollywood away from them and put taiwon and japan flags back on captain pete mitchells jacket....
You'd think it'd be the easiest thing to do, open up. But it's not for the tyrannical types. Once they have taken something from you, they cannot give it back voluntarily. You must take it back!
It’s also not truly possible to “just open up” anymore bc soooo many ppl are brain damaged w fear abt this f’n flu, it’s really sad and super scary how manipulated they are.
This! If trump doesn’t win. The lockdowns never end. This is an extinction level event. The GOP/DEM/globalist fucks die out or freedom dies out. For us, failure is NOT an option. Watch Joshua Philip’s most recent video with the Chinese patriot talking about how CCP is working to take over the world (seriously) you have no idea how many countries their tentacles are in.
Nah man. This is the first time in history that nobody has wanted to take over the world. Clearly. South China Sea, Hollywood, Africa, compromised individuals in all governments across the globe... Nah just a conspiracy theory, man.
You say that, but we had nine months to do the right thing while he was in the White House and didn’t do it. I don’t care about jurisdiction, I don’t care about states rights, I don’t care about proper procedure, not when the CONSTITUTIONAL rights of citizens are being violated by their governors.
Governor Wolf, Whitmer, etc., should’ve been arrested nine months ago. I don’t care if we needed to call in the military to do it, they should’ve been dragged out of their mansions and thrown into a prison cell. They have destroyed the rights of their citizens.
The problem is that the solution to a bad government policy is not more bad government policy. These "stimulus" bills are just a quick walk into socialism. You're falling for the Great Reset.
The right answer is heads jammed on poles and some "wealth redistribution" a la French Revolution.
A lot of businesses have been gutted, restaurants maybe the most obvious, but not the only ones hit. Any business to business that sells equipment, or office products in my area of the country has been devastated and I am sure there are others.
Businesses are not spending on new equipment, and most of the companies in my area (leftist Northeast), are still working from home
Sorry to hear that. I would suggest finding something to do while you figure things out. Money isn’t a real thing unless humans are working to give it value. Our time and assets are the only real aspects of our economy, and value is only generated by human work and desire. No amount of handout will fix this issue, but it will feed and house people long enough for them to find a new source of income.
I lost all my work for summer, and have just about burned through my savings. I’m not getting the work I lost back and quite honestly I don’t want $2000 I want blood. I want the motherfuckers that bankrupted me to pay.
I see a people making this comment from time to time, and the reality and economics just does not back it up. A weak economy causes the Dollar to tumble, which is why the dollar is very low right now.
If they open the economy, and provide a another stimulus, it will not hurt the dollar it will strengthen it.
If you are talking about UBI, where the entire population was paid $2k very month, then I would agree with you, that it would cause massive inflation, that is not the case for a one time (or even 2 time) stimulus.
I lost an easy 80k in income this year. Nothing is going to replace that. It was TAKEN from me. My entire career is over with no sign of coming back. I worked my whole adult life from mopping floors for nothing to making a respectable wage. Gone. All of it. Gone. And it is probably not coming back in anywhere near a reasonable enough time to fix that. Now I'm living in a friend's converted basement a thousand miles away from the city that I established myself in with no idea what the fuck I'm going to do with myself. What I'm going to do for work. How I'm even going to have a place to live again. Even if they opened everything up tomorrow... my career is still years away from being where it was at the beginning of this year. And I don't have the years left in my lifespan to build that up again. It's just over. Everything.
🍺😔 My sympathies. Rage is justified at this point, especially after the blatently bs election. This madness is also happening around the world to various degrees. This is a global reset, as they like to call it.
A massive number of people deliberately haven't been working because they got far more unemployment kickbacks than a job would pay them. All of the "essential workers" I know who worked through the pandemic are also pissed.
I got fucked over and didn't get any because I apparently made too much last year.
A friend got fucked over because he's a business-owner, and not eligible.
Another hasn't been able to get a single stimulus check, and doesn't know why.
Stimulus checks do absolutely nothing for the economy; it's like giving everyone a high-interest loan, while everyone continues to produce nothing. If no one produces anything, all the money in the world is only worth the nothing that nobody is producing.
All it is and ever was meant to be is another battle in the war to destroy the middle class while also redistributing that wealth to lower class and ultra rich. The only ones actually feeling the pain and losing their homes/mortgages that they actually owned, is the middle class aka the slave class.
Stimulus checks do absolutely nothing for the economy
But it does. It robs everybody that saved from opportunity of buying when things are cheap. It robs us of the pleasure of seeing some fucking zombie corps go bust. IT's pure socialist garbage.
There are also a whole lot of people who were not regularly employed just prior to the shutdowns, and thus not eligible for any of the federal or state unemployment-based assistance. This includes full-time students who had just graduated or were about to graduate from a program, people who rely mainly mainly on a seasonal occupation for their income, people temporarily living off savings and minimal investment income while temporarily doing something personal (caring for a dying elderly parent, DIY home renovation, a full-time charitable volunteer program for a few months, etc).
These people had reason to be confident that they could resume paid employment, on either a permanent or temporary basis, if and when they needed to, and suddenly the reliable employment options they'd counted on simply evaporated. Most large cities had a thriving agency-based market for temporary office workers, and that has literally disappeared. There were also a lot of people making decent money selling on eBay or Etsy or even live "flea markets", but this activity doesn't count as "employment" the way most people do it, so again, no eligibility for unemployment benefits when the bottom fell out of their market.
Even if they do, we would need compensation for the time out of work. It's a case of eminent domain. My entire industry has been closed down since March. I would love to go back to work.
Seriously, just open up and let people go to work. Best stimulus we could have.
That would be nice but it's pretty obvious that's not happening.
And therein lies the biggest problem of all.
This is the only option where China doesn't win.
If we keep giving out money, we go into massive debt, or inflation will destroy our currency. If Soros keeps putting in pro crime AGs + antifa/blm riots, property values will tank, and combined with business shutdowns, Chinese interests can buy up real estate with blessing from their cronies.
The only path that does not benefit China is to open up.
I'd be willing to take the debt if it's the cost of the military to end these tyrants and start locking them up in GITMO. Would be a start of getting the country back.
Not really true. People will spend it on China products. Not the majority. It's a less of a China win, but still one nonetheless.
All chink debts are null and void, seize all property purchased by them take hollywood away from them and put taiwon and japan flags back on captain pete mitchells jacket....
Not to mention the creation of spineless vegetables dependent upon the government for sustenance.
You'd think it'd be the easiest thing to do, open up. But it's not for the tyrannical types. Once they have taken something from you, they cannot give it back voluntarily. You must take it back!
It’s also not truly possible to “just open up” anymore bc soooo many ppl are brain damaged w fear abt this f’n flu, it’s really sad and super scary how manipulated they are.
Unless trump wins... they will not let us out of lockdown unless we are absolutely crushed economically
2nd biggest being that greasy itanian commie taint
Block in all health departments don't let them leave to issue citations. Similar to what happened to ICE facilities
Not happening until Trump rightfully claims the presidency.
This! If trump doesn’t win. The lockdowns never end. This is an extinction level event. The GOP/DEM/globalist fucks die out or freedom dies out. For us, failure is NOT an option. Watch Joshua Philip’s most recent video with the Chinese patriot talking about how CCP is working to take over the world (seriously) you have no idea how many countries their tentacles are in.
Nah man. This is the first time in history that nobody has wanted to take over the world. Clearly. South China Sea, Hollywood, Africa, compromised individuals in all governments across the globe... Nah just a conspiracy theory, man.
You say that, but we had nine months to do the right thing while he was in the White House and didn’t do it. I don’t care about jurisdiction, I don’t care about states rights, I don’t care about proper procedure, not when the CONSTITUTIONAL rights of citizens are being violated by their governors.
Governor Wolf, Whitmer, etc., should’ve been arrested nine months ago. I don’t care if we needed to call in the military to do it, they should’ve been dragged out of their mansions and thrown into a prison cell. They have destroyed the rights of their citizens.
Fuck off, 7-hour-old account.
It'll happen once Patriots grow a pair and stop asking permission to open up.
Then let it have its natural effect. Bailouts are idiotic.
Hopefully you don't loose your job and it's industry gutted. I have, chef and restaurants have been the hardest hit in my area.
The problem is that the solution to a bad government policy is not more bad government policy. These "stimulus" bills are just a quick walk into socialism. You're falling for the Great Reset.
The right answer is heads jammed on poles and some "wealth redistribution" a la French Revolution.
*lose
Loose means the opposite of tight
A lot of businesses have been gutted, restaurants maybe the most obvious, but not the only ones hit. Any business to business that sells equipment, or office products in my area of the country has been devastated and I am sure there are others.
Businesses are not spending on new equipment, and most of the companies in my area (leftist Northeast), are still working from home
Sorry to hear that. I would suggest finding something to do while you figure things out. Money isn’t a real thing unless humans are working to give it value. Our time and assets are the only real aspects of our economy, and value is only generated by human work and desire. No amount of handout will fix this issue, but it will feed and house people long enough for them to find a new source of income.
I lost all my work for summer, and have just about burned through my savings. I’m not getting the work I lost back and quite honestly I don’t want $2000 I want blood. I want the motherfuckers that bankrupted me to pay.
Time to Killdozer up, then
F
This is the way
Just beat them to death. Why get elaborate.
Until a court docket reads "The people of the United States Vs. the CCP" we will never be whole again.
We could refuse to pay back any debts. That doesn’t require a court outcome either.
Would do literally nothing because the chinese aren't the cause of everything wrong with our country. Who owns the media?
I see a people making this comment from time to time, and the reality and economics just does not back it up. A weak economy causes the Dollar to tumble, which is why the dollar is very low right now.
If they open the economy, and provide a another stimulus, it will not hurt the dollar it will strengthen it.
If you are talking about UBI, where the entire population was paid $2k very month, then I would agree with you, that it would cause massive inflation, that is not the case for a one time (or even 2 time) stimulus.
Then do it.
I lost an easy 80k in income this year. Nothing is going to replace that. It was TAKEN from me. My entire career is over with no sign of coming back. I worked my whole adult life from mopping floors for nothing to making a respectable wage. Gone. All of it. Gone. And it is probably not coming back in anywhere near a reasonable enough time to fix that. Now I'm living in a friend's converted basement a thousand miles away from the city that I established myself in with no idea what the fuck I'm going to do with myself. What I'm going to do for work. How I'm even going to have a place to live again. Even if they opened everything up tomorrow... my career is still years away from being where it was at the beginning of this year. And I don't have the years left in my lifespan to build that up again. It's just over. Everything.
Long as you have breath in your lungs it's not over. Keep the faith and look to the book of Job.
What kind of business are you in?
🍺😔 My sympathies. Rage is justified at this point, especially after the blatently bs election. This madness is also happening around the world to various degrees. This is a global reset, as they like to call it.
Empty words from me as I'm not in a position to do much, but I feel you pede. I'm in a similar situation, stay strong brother.
Respectable work.
There should be no stimulus at all.
A massive number of people deliberately haven't been working because they got far more unemployment kickbacks than a job would pay them. All of the "essential workers" I know who worked through the pandemic are also pissed.
I got fucked over and didn't get any because I apparently made too much last year.
A friend got fucked over because he's a business-owner, and not eligible.
Another hasn't been able to get a single stimulus check, and doesn't know why.
Stimulus checks do absolutely nothing for the economy; it's like giving everyone a high-interest loan, while everyone continues to produce nothing. If no one produces anything, all the money in the world is only worth the nothing that nobody is producing.
All it is and ever was meant to be is another battle in the war to destroy the middle class while also redistributing that wealth to lower class and ultra rich. The only ones actually feeling the pain and losing their homes/mortgages that they actually owned, is the middle class aka the slave class.
But it does. It robs everybody that saved from opportunity of buying when things are cheap. It robs us of the pleasure of seeing some fucking zombie corps go bust. IT's pure socialist garbage.
I'd agree, and phrase that as "something against the economy."
I bet race is the common factor for those getting fucked over.
There are also a whole lot of people who were not regularly employed just prior to the shutdowns, and thus not eligible for any of the federal or state unemployment-based assistance. This includes full-time students who had just graduated or were about to graduate from a program, people who rely mainly mainly on a seasonal occupation for their income, people temporarily living off savings and minimal investment income while temporarily doing something personal (caring for a dying elderly parent, DIY home renovation, a full-time charitable volunteer program for a few months, etc).
These people had reason to be confident that they could resume paid employment, on either a permanent or temporary basis, if and when they needed to, and suddenly the reliable employment options they'd counted on simply evaporated. Most large cities had a thriving agency-based market for temporary office workers, and that has literally disappeared. There were also a lot of people making decent money selling on eBay or Etsy or even live "flea markets", but this activity doesn't count as "employment" the way most people do it, so again, no eligibility for unemployment benefits when the bottom fell out of their market.
Dems would never allow that.
Repugs would never allow that.
And arrest and prosecute all government officials and agents who blantly violated the 14th admendment
Even if they do, we would need compensation for the time out of work. It's a case of eminent domain. My entire industry has been closed down since March. I would love to go back to work.
i will agree with you people as soon as we compensate all those that are involved in illegal activities for having their activities restricted .