That's why they tie these bills in as such. They can demonize nays as standing against the one decent thing there. It's a fucking trash heap with a cherry on top. Get shit on if you don't eat the cherry.
It's bullshit. Every bill should be 5 pages max and on one issue max. I want people to have to read thier single issue bills out loud and be laughed out of office. It would cut into tons of the special interest shit that is ruining the system.
I just want the sponsors to have to read everything out loud. No more hiding behind the shroud of a giant pork package. Let's see these morons try to validate a god damn thing if every item has to be aired.
Maga party should start hiding shit in bills. Next omnibus bill i want to see a 2 term limit for all elected senate and house members, that extends to staffers. No more career politicians. Let's see how fast they read and pass that.
Pretty much. It's a symptom of the earmark backlash but has made things worse. Let every sponsor read thier shit aloud for all to hear. We can decide if it's horseshit or good shit.
It’s not really 2k of our money. It’s 2k of the federal reserves money that we are on the hook for paying back. The insidious part is that congress could still function for a while if every tax payer refused to pay federal taxes for a period of time, as none of the money is a direct payment.
Social security I believe is a direct wealth transfer. So the older generation would be screwed immediately.
I think that's the thing, I think Trump thinks, perhaps correctly, that pork(calling this pork is being kind though, as pork at least benefits a home district) and wasteful spending is not the hill to die on right now. It sucks, but it is nothing new. We need to press our reps on this crap, along with January 6th concerns.
No, we need to get rid of the offices. The government has become so bloated and we have lost so many freedoms in ways the founding fathers never anticipated. We do not need congress or the senate. They are unnecessary in today's world.
Jeez .. not happy about him signing
So of the $7.8 Trillion in spending this year and only $3.4 Trillion in revenue we only went $4.4 Trillion in the hole in one year, before we figure this bill which is another $2.3 Trillion? Gawd China is ruining our dollar faster than ever
Edit: https://usdebtclock.org/#
That website showed me inflation was about to happen, so I bought silver. Grew my portfolio by 50% 2 weeks later.
Maybe it doesn't tell you anything, but it speaks to me.
If you're buying precious metals, it is best to buy local from a dealer. I only bought stock in silver because I had money already in the stock market....was just easier for me. But if you have cash, buy it direct.
We've definitely got to repeal Section 230 of Telecommunications Act of 1996. If we can't get it repealed, we need to re-enact 1776 and cross the Delaware.
I've little faith in anything at this point. I think you mean when Pence counts votes. No objections will be made. Smooth sailing to a Biden presidency, digging the hole we're in now even deeper and even more insurmountable without someone like Trump helping pull everyone out.
Yea, it's gross. We have got less than 20 days to inauguration and it just seems nothing has gone our way. Tried the state courts that didn't work. Tried SCOTUS, big nope. Tried removing the pork from the bill, we're relying on assholes that have never kept their word or show any interest in voting otherwise. Hunter Biden laptop didn't keep Biden out. Massive voter fraud being shrugged off. Just a wall of utter shit.
Correct - this is all based on a “promise” from Congress to address 230, relief payments, and the vote irregularities at some point. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for any of those cucks to actually honor their word, but that’s just me.
Yeah I can't believe how many people I'm seeing rn saying "He is forcing congress to address redline items! How smart!"... Like that is going to make a difference. Congress will do the exact opposite of what Trump wants, and we know this. Wtf
Exactly. I’m not a lawyer so I could be wrong, but a “special message” doesn’t sound like a binding agreement. And trusting Congress to start an investigation into the election fraud doesn’t mean shit because because he’s basically trusting liars on their word. I don’t want to be a sooner but things aren’t looking so well for us.
Edit: The bill also removes the ability of the president to invoke the Insurrection Act. So yeah, double fucked.
That is the issue with Trump at times.I wish he directly talked to his base or actual conservative influencers instead of his advisors who Pressure him to lose political capital every time.
Hopium morphing into delusion. If people were serious, this site’s stickies would primarily be organizational efforts to countermand off-the-rails tyranny that’s proliferating.
Something nobody is talking about: what if he needs the bill signed to avoid a government shutdown that could affect aspects of operations he needs to stay afloat in order to keep investigating them
^ this. Glad to see nobody calling this guy a doomer, bc this shit is fact. There are many hills to die on, but this is not one of them. We are on a time crunch right now.
No kidding. "Why this really really bad thing is GOOD for us." Up next when Biden has hand on the Bible. "How this is really super duper good for us guys!!"
Why would Trump propose 900billion to foreign aids? He made a video saying the Bill was a disgrace, he went and outlined all the riddiculous stuff including the Gender programs and money to the military of egypt. He didn't sound like he approved it or was happy about it. So you're either lying or you're missinformed.
Maybe what you mean by "His admin" is really the 80% of traitor Rinos on the GOP. Trump barely has any say in the matter since he's basically fighting everybody to keep our Republic alive.
Exactly, if they were going to it would have been done during the week after the election. Instead Dems and Republicans fist-bumped and elbow-bumped that Trump was out.
The voter fraud thing bugs me. I hope this is just for show and not something that Trump is relying on. This will be a slow walking investigation that wont really discover anything until well after the 20th and then it will be dropped.
Genius move if it actually works, but it's congress. Even redlining or line item veto is going to be ignored, and how did he secure looking into election fraud or section 230 vote?
This is all nonsense, congress will never piss away their power (already it violates presentment clause of constitution), they will just consider it vetoed and vote to pass as is.
The fact that perhaps 10% or fewer of us here, a self-selecting group of people with a keen interest and working knowledge of our political system, had ever heard of the Impoundment Control Act of 1974 as a means to cut wasteful gov’t. spending says all there is to say about the uniparty deepstate. “Wait. They could do this all along?!”
They have to amend and agree to the $2000 change. The Rinos probably told Trump they'd hold the line on 230 to get it done along with other empty promises.
No need to apologize. It’s garbage. Sudan gets $700 million. Some Americans get $600.
The end.
I have no idea why he thought this was a good idea. I’m not stupid and neither is Trump. Mitch isn’t going to somehow start caring about section 230 or election fraud now. Why pretend?
He did not make a trade, he bough himself some time on these bills. What happens after Jan 4th? The new house is seated, which will be closer to 50/50, if the congress says no way to the purposed changes he is making then he can veto the bills and there is not a veto proof count in the house.
not true. it is the president who has the burden to justify why he deny the items, not congress. congress can approve his redline items or do nothing. If congress does nothing, then after 45 days, these redline items will be in full force since the President already signed the bill.
So it’s not as bad as reported, but it’s also not good. Congressional promises are worth jack. Should have made them vote on it so we knew who to hold accountable.
It was veto proof. There was literally nothing he could do. So he used a law to sign the bill with conditions which force congress to basically double down on screwing the American people or to amend things and go, “oh, no, we didn’t really mean that,” and look super weak.
Congress shit on Trump, but he took the shit from his suit coat and smeared it all over their faces.
I’m hoping he secured those things for us, and still plans on following the money to see who’s getting paid for committing election fraud, because otherwise I can’t believe he’d sign that bill without some 100% guarantees they were actually going to do those things.
Edit: Whoops, I didn’t realize there was more than one picture. He’s a fucking genius with the Impoundment Act!
Respectfully modifying section 230 is not enough. It needs to be repealed.
I don’t trust the house and senate to fix anything.
It has to be all or nothing. Going to the middle in DC means kicking it back to the lobbyists which just gives them opportunities to further ruin America.
What you're not seeing is that we're ALREADY BEING CENSORED. This website exists because we got Censored and REMOVED from Reddit. We're also getting censored and removed with impunity on Youtube, Tweeter, Facebook and all of Social media. What makes you think this website will last for much longer if Google hides us in the search results?
You seem to think that 230 gives us freedom when the only thing it does is empower ALL of big tech to completely rule over us and control what we can say, see or hear.
Big tech is the single biggest threat to humankind as a whole as Technology continues to evolve. They currently have ALL the info they need on you on file, your name, address, location, phone number, all your likes, preferences search history etc. So imagine when a communist government like Kamala/Biden/CCP take over and they have facial recognition, Drones, forced vaccine passports/microchips, evil police henchmen and a weaponized congress/courts/SCOTUS to ignore the constitution and create their own laws?
Then it will be over for us. Our only hope is to repel 230, completely dismantle 230 and hopefully have the numbers and the courage to fight the deep state Swamp back. Otherwise we're done and so is Freedom and democracy.
Technically, I don’t think you aren’t wrong. There would have to be zero moderation, aside from removing illegal content. Either that or have TD held liable for everything posted on here. Though I’m not sure if that would apply to non-profits. Not sure if you can be considered a publisher if you aren’t making money.
This is a decent move. He signed a bill for $600 - the majority of Americans will be pissed that it isn't $1200 or $2000. They now need to get him a revised version or the current version stands, which would be an optics disaster for Congress.
The foreign aid will be delayed. People will then be waiting to find out if Congress plans to send their money overseas or send it to them, the folks they actually represent.
They thought they could force him to sign the bill and that would be that. Now the microscope is on THEM.
Except Congress doesn't care about optics or what we think. They already proven that they can vote themselves into power and don't need us so why would they care?
Man, I've been a huge believer in Trump since day one, and still am. He's a hero, likely the greatest President ever, and is someone God has been using powerfully to hold off the evils of the world.
But if the majority of people in power in the government want a communist takeover, it's going to happen. The president only has so much power. This may be heading to an actual civil war.
Regardless, read your Bibles daily. Pray for the President, for America, and for the world. And pray for the strength to endure whatever is coming.
Incredible. Either doomer or pure ignorance. Trump is fighting to fight the Republic and you guys will give him a hard time because he signed this bill. He gains time, no unnecessary time spent on the bill (millions have been spent every year anyway) and focuses on the election. Period.
Exactly. And what's the alternative anyways, a veto proof majority will pass it anyways. They're upset GEOTUS did the one thing he could do, even if it's unliky to result in anything? And now the normies are still mad at congress and not Trump for stopping their paycheck. I don't like that but this is reality.
This isn’t great, but what else could he do? It was a bi-partisan bill, they’d have overrode his veto. At least now there a chance, albeit a slim one, to get some good out of it.
He just signed the bill and funding that removes his ability to use the Insurrection Act, he just Neutered himself on a promise from ChiCom Mitch and Dual Citizenship Schumer.
This is the covid bill. The defense bill that he vetoed has the Insurrection Act thing. Congress can't legislate away the Insurrection Act powers anyway.
I don't like the fact that it's basically not changed. I don't think the house/senate will do anything unless he actually has some sort of side deal going on. But being DJT that's pretty much guaranteed.
IIRC I have read the Trillion $ Omnibus Bill was the one that contained the IA section, an invocation of the IA can only be done by a Super Majority house agreement as per their proposed amendment within the bill.
All it says is that they must "start". Gee, I wonder what an investigation that they start and run themselves will find. Or how glacially it will proceed before it finds nothing....
How many years of compromising with Dems for an inch while they take a mile is it going to take to have you people wake the fuck up? Call me a doomer, but hasn’t the past two months of the GOP turning it’s back on Trump told you how they will vote on the checks and section 230?
If you have been paying attention and you’re not angry right now, you’re fucking retarded.
What about if I stream a movie from a 3rd party site and you get a 10 year prison sentence. Nothing about this Bill was a good thing. No more insurrection act for the big man either. IT was a stupid move.
What indications are there that the Senate will be obligated or forced in any way to start a serious process of voting for further funds or repealing Section 230? What leverage does Trump have to force this now that he has signed?
That's why they tie these bills in as such. They can demonize nays as standing against the one decent thing there. It's a fucking trash heap with a cherry on top. Get shit on if you don't eat the cherry.
It's bullshit. Every bill should be 5 pages max and on one issue max. I want people to have to read thier single issue bills out loud and be laughed out of office. It would cut into tons of the special interest shit that is ruining the system.
Any bill over 5 pages needs a week of review
I'm holding strong to no bill over five. It's already too long at that point to explain a single issue vote.
I just want the sponsors to have to read everything out loud. No more hiding behind the shroud of a giant pork package. Let's see these morons try to validate a god damn thing if every item has to be aired.
Any bill over 5000 pages we just need to pass it to find out what’s in it.
-N. Pelosi
Hell, saying "any bill needs a week of review" is revolutionary to these clown "lawmakers."
Maga party should start hiding shit in bills. Next omnibus bill i want to see a 2 term limit for all elected senate and house members, that extends to staffers. No more career politicians. Let's see how fast they read and pass that.
Pretty much. It's a symptom of the earmark backlash but has made things worse. Let every sponsor read thier shit aloud for all to hear. We can decide if it's horseshit or good shit.
So we are fucked:(
That's $2K OF YOUR MONEY you paid them a lot more than $2K to get.
It’s not really 2k of our money. It’s 2k of the federal reserves money that we are on the hook for paying back. The insidious part is that congress could still function for a while if every tax payer refused to pay federal taxes for a period of time, as none of the money is a direct payment.
Social security I believe is a direct wealth transfer. So the older generation would be screwed immediately.
I think that's the thing, I think Trump thinks, perhaps correctly, that pork(calling this pork is being kind though, as pork at least benefits a home district) and wasteful spending is not the hill to die on right now. It sucks, but it is nothing new. We need to press our reps on this crap, along with January 6th concerns.
This bill is every problem with government personified. You can't reason with congressmen.
No, we need to get rid of the offices. The government has become so bloated and we have lost so many freedoms in ways the founding fathers never anticipated. We do not need congress or the senate. They are unnecessary in today's world.
Jeez .. not happy about him signing So of the $7.8 Trillion in spending this year and only $3.4 Trillion in revenue we only went $4.4 Trillion in the hole in one year, before we figure this bill which is another $2.3 Trillion? Gawd China is ruining our dollar faster than ever Edit: https://usdebtclock.org/#
Sounds crazy, but this whole thing couldn't have worked out better for china if it were planned.
Planned, you say? 😏 Meanwhile China is living it up.......
That website is just a bunch of numbers moving with literally no actual information to verify if any of it is legit.
That website showed me inflation was about to happen, so I bought silver. Grew my portfolio by 50% 2 weeks later. Maybe it doesn't tell you anything, but it speaks to me.
How do I build a portfolio? This is all alien talk to me :(
If you want to get into the stock market, it is best to talk to a financial institution like Edward Jones or Fidelity.
If you're buying precious metals, it is best to buy local from a dealer. I only bought stock in silver because I had money already in the stock market....was just easier for me. But if you have cash, buy it direct.
the 6th what?
We've definitely got to repeal Section 230 of Telecommunications Act of 1996. If we can't get it repealed, we need to re-enact 1776 and cross the Delaware.
I've little faith in anything at this point. I think you mean when Pence counts votes. No objections will be made. Smooth sailing to a Biden presidency, digging the hole we're in now even deeper and even more insurmountable without someone like Trump helping pull everyone out.
There’s a sensible pede. 👍🏻 Pay no attention to the dark cloud trying to move in here. (Being totally serious!)
Then riots and civil war it is.
When government becomes destructive of these ends...
Not Civil War. Revolutionary War.
You do realize that Pence can just count the Republican votes, right? It's been done before.
If Thomas Jefferson can count the votes he wants, then so can Pence. Question is will he?
i don't usually dv but i did it . . I'm sorry but that . Smooth sailing to a Biden presidency . just stuck in my craw. ewww ugh cough spit
Yea, it's gross. We have got less than 20 days to inauguration and it just seems nothing has gone our way. Tried the state courts that didn't work. Tried SCOTUS, big nope. Tried removing the pork from the bill, we're relying on assholes that have never kept their word or show any interest in voting otherwise. Hunter Biden laptop didn't keep Biden out. Massive voter fraud being shrugged off. Just a wall of utter shit.
Rubiconboy is 6 hours old and has shithead shill tattooed on his forehead like Manson
I don't think he would have signed the bill AND invoked the ICA74 if he didn't have assurances from the GOP that those things will be done.
Ball is in their court now, if they don't fix it, they are fucked.
Also, this 45 day delay takes us well into a second Trump administration... remember he said "i won't forget" a couple of days ago
This is a 4D chess move if i've ever seen one.
This is why the time is key.
45 days
well into a new Trump admin
Also exposing the voter fraud against Trump will expose other fraud as well
This was a shot across the bow
Crazy times ahead
You'll have to pardon me if I don't trust the GOP to live up to any supposed assurances.
I agree...
But they might act differently if a second Trump term becomes a clear inevitability to them.
It might, or it might cause them to act even more defiantly as they go kicking and screaming against the situation.
If I learned anything over the years about Liberals and traitors is that they ALWAYS double down. They never learn.
Correct - this is all based on a “promise” from Congress to address 230, relief payments, and the vote irregularities at some point. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for any of those cucks to actually honor their word, but that’s just me.
He doesn’t have to sign the checks just like sleepy joe and osama could have withheld the Ukraine aid. the executive branch executes the funding
See the case reference. We got fucked.
He can literally write an eo tomorrow blocking all foreign aid, which clearly he would do if they dont take it out
No he literally cant. It would not be enforceable.
"I'll sign it guys, totally about to sign it, just make these changes - I'll sign it as soon as I get back to my desk"
Congress: "Hey we didn't make those changes, got you again Trump!!!!"
POTUS: "I forgot to sign it, my bad"
Except he did sign it.
Who trust either the house or senate to follow thru. Once the bill is signed, it is final
Yeah I can't believe how many people I'm seeing rn saying "He is forcing congress to address redline items! How smart!"... Like that is going to make a difference. Congress will do the exact opposite of what Trump wants, and we know this. Wtf
Exactly. I’m not a lawyer so I could be wrong, but a “special message” doesn’t sound like a binding agreement. And trusting Congress to start an investigation into the election fraud doesn’t mean shit because because he’s basically trusting liars on their word. I don’t want to be a sooner but things aren’t looking so well for us.
Edit: The bill also removes the ability of the president to invoke the Insurrection Act. So yeah, double fucked.
That is the issue with Trump at times.I wish he directly talked to his base or actual conservative influencers instead of his advisors who Pressure him to lose political capital every time.
Hopium morphing into delusion. If people were serious, this site’s stickies would primarily be organizational efforts to countermand off-the-rails tyranny that’s proliferating.
I trust them to be the slimiest snake liars and do exactly opposite of whatever they promise.
We do not know exactly whats in it!!
Something nobody is talking about: what if he needs the bill signed to avoid a government shutdown that could affect aspects of operations he needs to stay afloat in order to keep investigating them
These fucking goalposts bro
LMFAO
"We need China to take over so everybody could see that they are really bad guys, they need to see for themselves".
Mock as you may, but a government shutdown impacts a ton of things.... including parts of the government that are implicated in fraud.
^ this. Glad to see nobody calling this guy a doomer, bc this shit is fact. There are many hills to die on, but this is not one of them. We are on a time crunch right now.
No kidding. "Why this really really bad thing is GOOD for us." Up next when Biden has hand on the Bible. "How this is really super duper good for us guys!!"
Exactly wake me when sessions wakes up.
One man cannot do it all.
To be fair out of all the goal posts I've seen in TD. The guy was right the bill would of caused a government shut down if vetoed.
Lol
Trump's biggest problem is inviting Ivanka and Jared Kushner to the white house as advisors.
who in the govt is investigating?
Agree. You have to be seated at the table to play cards.
Who ever used the Impoundment Act last? Trump is a one-man civics course.
It came up before with border wall funding
But billions and billions of our fucking money is going to be sent overseas.
If Trump signed the bill with all the pork then im actually extremely disappointed. They're robbing us more than they are even coming close to helping
Buy Bitcoin
How does the fact that all the "foreign aid" was agreed to before justify signing it?
Corruption is corruption, no matter how it's labeled.
Why would Trump propose 900billion to foreign aids? He made a video saying the Bill was a disgrace, he went and outlined all the riddiculous stuff including the Gender programs and money to the military of egypt. He didn't sound like he approved it or was happy about it. So you're either lying or you're missinformed.
Maybe what you mean by "His admin" is really the 80% of traitor Rinos on the GOP. Trump barely has any say in the matter since he's basically fighting everybody to keep our Republic alive.
The Senate will vote against each consideration, however.
Good, lets see the names.
He made a trade. If we actually get that, it's worth it.
Congress thinks he’s leaving in a few weeks. Why would they give him what he wants if they think he’s leaving?
Or they know he isn't
When have the democrats ever held their end of a bargin?
Ask Reagan when he gave all those immigrants citizenship... Oh wait.
Ask Trump.
There is no trade
It wasn't worth it
And if they don't abide, he won't dispense the funds.
Congress isn't going to do shit about voter fraud or foreign aid.
They'll just run the clock.
And then they don't get their pork.
...until the clock runs out
Exactly, if they were going to it would have been done during the week after the election. Instead Dems and Republicans fist-bumped and elbow-bumped that Trump was out.
Then Biden will.
That's a really big 'if'.
It is true that it is a formal request and requests can be denied.
I just overlooked the 5 step process. Don’t fuck with me!
Hahaha haha a vote? Brings light? When youtube sensors even congress
The voter fraud thing bugs me. I hope this is just for show and not something that Trump is relying on. This will be a slow walking investigation that wont really discover anything until well after the 20th and then it will be dropped.
The voter fraud thing is 100% bread and circus.
Yeah I hope you're right.
What about all the other crap laws they slid into this bill?
No he didn't.
The Establishment wins again. We lose. Again.
We are not self governed anymore but ruled by a corrupt and selfish political class who hates us and our freedom.
I guess we are done learning how to win and it is up to us to put it in practice.
We dont have freedom any more.
Genius move if it actually works, but it's congress. Even redlining or line item veto is going to be ignored, and how did he secure looking into election fraud or section 230 vote?
This is all nonsense, congress will never piss away their power (already it violates presentment clause of constitution), they will just consider it vetoed and vote to pass as is.
OP is dishonest and doesn't show the entire thread:
The fact that perhaps 10% or fewer of us here, a self-selecting group of people with a keen interest and working knowledge of our political system, had ever heard of the Impoundment Control Act of 1974 as a means to cut wasteful gov’t. spending says all there is to say about the uniparty deepstate. “Wait. They could do this all along?!”
Your terms are acceptable.
I love Bolsonaro. He's mega based.
An increase to the public is not acceptable unless there is a total elimination of foreign aid or donation to the Kennedy society.
They have to amend and agree to the $2000 change. The Rinos probably told Trump they'd hold the line on 230 to get it done along with other empty promises.
They won't keep a one of those promises. And he still loses the insurrection act.
Correct!
I mean I'm not trying to be a doomer, but I'm trying to be a realist, and this represents a meaningful setback.
No need to apologize. It’s garbage. Sudan gets $700 million. Some Americans get $600.
The end.
I have no idea why he thought this was a good idea. I’m not stupid and neither is Trump. Mitch isn’t going to somehow start caring about section 230 or election fraud now. Why pretend?
He did not make a trade, he bough himself some time on these bills. What happens after Jan 4th? The new house is seated, which will be closer to 50/50, if the congress says no way to the purposed changes he is making then he can veto the bills and there is not a veto proof count in the house.
Not true. Congress can write and deny a new rescission bill tomorrow which means the bill he signed will be enforced.
He fucked up.
How?
What would you have done?
Pocket veto.
Force a stand alone bill for the 2000. Tell the American people a line has to be drawn.
Stop pushing the vaccine and covid as a reason for being shutdown.
No, he signed it. It’s done
not true. it is the president who has the burden to justify why he deny the items, not congress. congress can approve his redline items or do nothing. If congress does nothing, then after 45 days, these redline items will be in full force since the President already signed the bill.
So it’s not as bad as reported, but it’s also not good. Congressional promises are worth jack. Should have made them vote on it so we knew who to hold accountable.
It was veto proof. There was literally nothing he could do. So he used a law to sign the bill with conditions which force congress to basically double down on screwing the American people or to amend things and go, “oh, no, we didn’t really mean that,” and look super weak.
Congress shit on Trump, but he took the shit from his suit coat and smeared it all over their faces.
I've heard otherwise via the pocket veto if he'd held out by just not signing it right up until the end of the current congressional session.
Clock running out may well have taken care of it for him.
Stop sucking dick. It enables Big Government.
I’m hoping he secured those things for us, and still plans on following the money to see who’s getting paid for committing election fraud, because otherwise I can’t believe he’d sign that bill without some 100% guarantees they were actually going to do those things.
Edit: Whoops, I didn’t realize there was more than one picture. He’s a fucking genius with the Impoundment Act!
Respectfully modifying section 230 is not enough. It needs to be repealed.
I don’t trust the house and senate to fix anything.
It has to be all or nothing. Going to the middle in DC means kicking it back to the lobbyists which just gives them opportunities to further ruin America.
Yes. I disagree.
What you're not seeing is that we're ALREADY BEING CENSORED. This website exists because we got Censored and REMOVED from Reddit. We're also getting censored and removed with impunity on Youtube, Tweeter, Facebook and all of Social media. What makes you think this website will last for much longer if Google hides us in the search results?
You seem to think that 230 gives us freedom when the only thing it does is empower ALL of big tech to completely rule over us and control what we can say, see or hear.
Big tech is the single biggest threat to humankind as a whole as Technology continues to evolve. They currently have ALL the info they need on you on file, your name, address, location, phone number, all your likes, preferences search history etc. So imagine when a communist government like Kamala/Biden/CCP take over and they have facial recognition, Drones, forced vaccine passports/microchips, evil police henchmen and a weaponized congress/courts/SCOTUS to ignore the constitution and create their own laws?
Then it will be over for us. Our only hope is to repel 230, completely dismantle 230 and hopefully have the numbers and the courage to fight the deep state Swamp back. Otherwise we're done and so is Freedom and democracy.
Technically, I don’t think you aren’t wrong. There would have to be zero moderation, aside from removing illegal content. Either that or have TD held liable for everything posted on here. Though I’m not sure if that would apply to non-profits. Not sure if you can be considered a publisher if you aren’t making money.
This is a decent move. He signed a bill for $600 - the majority of Americans will be pissed that it isn't $1200 or $2000. They now need to get him a revised version or the current version stands, which would be an optics disaster for Congress.
The foreign aid will be delayed. People will then be waiting to find out if Congress plans to send their money overseas or send it to them, the folks they actually represent.
They thought they could force him to sign the bill and that would be that. Now the microscope is on THEM.
Except Congress doesn't care about optics or what we think. They already proven that they can vote themselves into power and don't need us so why would they care?
Man, I've been a huge believer in Trump since day one, and still am. He's a hero, likely the greatest President ever, and is someone God has been using powerfully to hold off the evils of the world.
But if the majority of people in power in the government want a communist takeover, it's going to happen. The president only has so much power. This may be heading to an actual civil war.
Regardless, read your Bibles daily. Pray for the President, for America, and for the world. And pray for the strength to endure whatever is coming.
This needs to be stickied. The doomer shit is going into overdrive. Nobody fucking reads.
Incredible. Either doomer or pure ignorance. Trump is fighting to fight the Republic and you guys will give him a hard time because he signed this bill. He gains time, no unnecessary time spent on the bill (millions have been spent every year anyway) and focuses on the election. Period.
Exactly. And what's the alternative anyways, a veto proof majority will pass it anyways. They're upset GEOTUS did the one thing he could do, even if it's unliky to result in anything? And now the normies are still mad at congress and not Trump for stopping their paycheck. I don't like that but this is reality.
He couldn't have waited till closer to the 10-day deadline?
Is there still an income cap on it?
I guess kids are only worth $600 still?
Hysteria is difficult to avoid if listening to MSM report it.
The Impoundment Control Act of 1974! Dust it off!!
The sheer amount of shills in here is wild.
This isn’t great, but what else could he do? It was a bi-partisan bill, they’d have overrode his veto. At least now there a chance, albeit a slim one, to get some good out of it.
He just signed the bill and funding that removes his ability to use the Insurrection Act, he just Neutered himself on a promise from ChiCom Mitch and Dual Citizenship Schumer.
This is the covid bill. The defense bill that he vetoed has the Insurrection Act thing. Congress can't legislate away the Insurrection Act powers anyway.
I don't like the fact that it's basically not changed. I don't think the house/senate will do anything unless he actually has some sort of side deal going on. But being DJT that's pretty much guaranteed.
IIRC I have read the Trillion $ Omnibus Bill was the one that contained the IA section, an invocation of the IA can only be done by a Super Majority house agreement as per their proposed amendment within the bill.
Covid bill doesn't mention Insurection Act. That's the Defense bill.
Look up the recission provision .... https://budget.house.gov/publications/report/impoundment-control-act-1974-what-it-why-does-it-matter ... this buys him 45 days even if it passed Congress.
This. Means. Jack. He shouldn't have signed. Congress is running rampat with power and dont have to do a thing he requested.
All it says is that they must "start". Gee, I wonder what an investigation that they start and run themselves will find. Or how glacially it will proceed before it finds nothing....
How many years of compromising with Dems for an inch while they take a mile is it going to take to have you people wake the fuck up? Call me a doomer, but hasn’t the past two months of the GOP turning it’s back on Trump told you how they will vote on the checks and section 230?
If you have been paying attention and you’re not angry right now, you’re fucking retarded.
It's just promise from congress. If I had penny for every promise congress made..
If this is the short-term cost of saving the damn republic, so be it.
Trump, pure genius!
-President Trump just invoked the Impoundment Control Act of 1974 while signing the COVID bill, allowing him to redline areas that must be addressed.
-This sends it back to Congress forcing them to 1) repeal 230, 2) cut out the wasteful spending, 3) add $2k.
Could you please explain? What's stopping congress from just saying "fuck your red lines" waiting the 45 days and then passing it anyways?
What about if I stream a movie from a 3rd party site and you get a 10 year prison sentence. Nothing about this Bill was a good thing. No more insurrection act for the big man either. IT was a stupid move.
OP, that's not how it works. You think CONgress will amend those "redlines" its all a joke at this point
What indications are there that the Senate will be obligated or forced in any way to start a serious process of voting for further funds or repealing Section 230? What leverage does Trump have to force this now that he has signed?
Lol RINOs are fine with 230.