So I commented this on another post, but feel it needs its own discussion:
I understand all the payback against Fox News for election night, but really wish Tucker and Hannity would move over to private platforms or OANN. I really don’t like those two being punished by proxy of the others.
Hannity has been a long time supporter and friend to Trump, and has overall gone above and beyond to try to set the facts straight with his viewers at home that other networks misreport. I very much disagree with the “election night crew”, and some of the following trash they have said as a network since, but Tucker and Hannity are still very much friends and not foes in my eyes. I would agree that it’s their problem and that they need to jump ship to more trustworthy outlets, but even with their imperfections I have to be the odd man out here in stating that they are still FAR better than Maddow, Lemon, Scarborough, and similar.
If Cuomo and Maddow are the top viewed news programs, it’s just over. Period. Not dooming at all, but it’s impossible to not see that they’ll win the long game. It’s not called television “programming” for nothing. Do so many pedes really hate Fox so much now that you’d bite of your nose to spite your face? Like, I get it. They failed GEOTUS when he/we needed their support the most. It’s fvcked up.. but scorched earth doesn’t work at this scale. Either it’s full blown revolution and we burn every damn news station to the ground besides OANN... or we accept friendly allies that have imperfections. We all speak out often about how we hate leftist indoctrination in our schools.. so why would we throw in the towel in mass media, let our allies fall, and allow Maddow to be the source of truth for the general unred-pilled public?
I don’t understand the long game. I fully get the punishment and showing them that they need to back truth and what’s right or pay the price. I’m not saying we should give them praise for their wrongs.. but I still think letting Fox die to prove a point is just a terrible chess move. Think ahead a bit guys. We need allies if we aren’t going to turn this country upside down right now.
I see a lot of talk, and I’m right there with you if the President calls for militias and taking things back in the name of truth and sanity. I really am. I do not own a firearm, but I’ve got a lightweight crossbow and have excellent marksmanship. I’m all in on being part of a local militia, and fully support our vets and law enforcement. My grandfather was a sniper who killed Nazi’s in WW2 and in the remaining Army of Occupation in Berlin. I very much respect guarding our constitution and our American way of life from insurgency of any kind. But it’s time to shit or get off the pot. If we do nothing, we’re looking at literally giving away the largest media broadcast network in modern history, just to teach them a lesson. Seems rushed. I think slow death is better for these networks. Reserve them now while things are still in the air, and dump them AFTER we get what we collectively need, and when there is both government programs to quell the fake news and new replacements emerge with more honesty and integrity.
Just thinking out loud here. I’m not saying anyone is wrong for hating on them. They screwed up at the worst damn time. I get it. I just think we need to think like lawyers now. What’s going to get us the best outcome now, and what’s going to give us the best advantage long term.. and weight those out.
Does nobody else see it the same way as I do? That’s said, I think daytime fox is trash and no different than CNN. Even their YouTube headlines are now identical. I guess they’re fed the same scripted brainwashing sources as the rest at this time. I just think it’s too soon to cast them off into exile before Tucker and Hannity migrate elsewhere. But they’ve been vocal about how they aren’t leaving. So I understand the “it’s their problem” feeling. I just still think they’re useful to Trump over the next 4 years, even as fair weather friends. Can’t run with YouTube channels and dot coms like Daily Wire and Epoch Times, which are immediately discredited as conservative extremist or evangelical outlets. OANN alone isn’t going to get through to enough Americans. Newsmax may not be fully pure of heart, but the hatred toward them lately also raises a red flag for me. I get it. They’re corporate slaves, and should never be fully trusted or supported blindly. But there is still the option to utilize them and hold them accountable without burying them all when they screw up.
Just my two cents. I respect everyone’s opinion on the matter regardless. I’m 100% with Trump, and would like to see him use any and all means necessary to get his 2nd term and also reimburse himself 3.5 years more in an unprecedented manor for the time wasted due to illegal spying on his way in and Russiagate when all is said and done. I think the bad players need to pay up with more time. If he gets too old before then, he can appoint his sons or whoever HE sees fit to continue his cleanup efforts so we can achieve his expectations of excellence in our beautiful country once more. Then when we are stable and safe from internal and external corruption and ideological threats against our founding documents, we can have a normal election and rely on a legitimate electoral process once again. End rant.
Have a happy and healthy new year Pedes!
I look forward to your thoughts about this.
Money means more than america to them, fuck em.
I agree. My point is do we “fuck em” now, or do we use them until after securing 4 more years, and THEN kill them. I think the order of punishment is poorly executed here personally.
The long game is that better news sources like Newsmax, OAN picked up fox’s viewership. It’s the same amount of people overall watching, give or take, so the right has not been weakened. Also Parler picked up a huge amount of subscribers, so it is easier to spread the word without being censored now. In the long term it is better to have three competing networks for conservative news. It spreads the opinions, create more opportunities for talented hosts etc.
See? That’s a very useful answer. Thank you. In a genuine Trump supporter who doesn’t want to see hasty mistakes made. Was looking for some reassurance like this. Not a Disney or Fox “shill” like some others are responding with. Idiots.
People expect anti-Trump rhetoric from CNN and MSNBC. They go there to hear that schtick. Fox is assumed to be right-friendly, so hearing negative content re:Trump there is much more damaging as it is likely to be seen as accurate and not propaganda. "Even Fox thinks he lost....". So they are quite dangerous. And, as others have noted, no one has left Fox for CNN or MSNBC.
I agree. My point is regarding whether to kill them now as we have been, or using them during this up-in-the-air moment and killing them later. I don’t see the value in crushing them until DT gets 4 more for sure.
Personally I just can't stomach them any more. TV "news" is just play acting to me. But I agree many people use TV as their primary info source.
I’m in the same boat. I don’t consume it, but I realize the amount of average non-political Americans that do, and that concerns me.
lol, you genuinely think people quit watching Fox only to switch over to leftist talking heads??? buhahahahah
they aren't getting their news from mainstream "programming" at all anymore. not leftist media you dunce.
You’re the dunce if you think the average American digs as deep as you or I do.
If you keep that attitude your already doomed to fail kek.
you're on a website that is fast climbing the ranks to be one of the top sites in this country and the world and you say this?
I’m extremely happy for that. It’s wonderful. But the #200-400 most visited website has nothing on what was the number 1 mainstream news outlet. I think you’re missing the point entirely. First get to the number one spot, then kill the dinosaurs.
Not paid by the mouse. Genuinely concerned. Lincoln Project can suck a fat hog.
I do like your comment, because I’d probably ask similar myself. It no, I’m 100% serious and 100% patriot. I just don’t want to see us as a community shoot ourselves in the foot.
Keep thinking everyone is as glued to their TV as you are
SAD
I don’t watch tv. What are you even going on about. Learn to read.
You also didn’t read my post fully if that’s what you took away from it. I never once said they switched over to leftist stations.
The point is hurting Fox doesn’t help large scale, because average unknowing Americans just turn on the news at dinner or while getting ready for work. Not everyone is based or has a side. They blindly trust what they see. Destroying Fox’s popularity seems hasty short term. We need more prominent outlets. Not small independent ones. They’re great for those of us in the know, but you’re jumping to some weak ass conclusions if that’s your thought process you dunce.
All they have to do is start reporting the truth— that the election was evidently stolen. The ball is in their court. That goes for Tucker and especially Hannity,too.
See I agree with that. But the pressure isn’t showing enough signs of working, and losing viewers at the rate they are is going to bite us in the ass in the long run. That’s my concern with it.
For now, all that matters is the election. After that’s over, we can reassess. But right now, they are fucking us over. So fuck them.
I think I can accept that. I also think we’re liking at the same current scenario and going about it oppositely. I really do get your point, but I feel instead of reassessment afterward, we could be using them right now, and dumping them afterward. I think the king term goal is to fully replace legacy media with jouralistic outlets that do their damn jobs and remain truthful and skeptic of government.
I think people should watch conservative/patriot shows no matter what channel they're on. The individuals need to be supported - or there won't be any of them left before long.
Chris Ruddy of Newsmax gave money to Clinton so people bash Newsmax despite them having Greg Kelly and Steve Bannon. That's just stupid. Ruddy obviously is not running a leftist outfit, so the shows should be supported.
Not everyone can be OANN, which is privately funded. I often wonder how long they'll be able to stay on the air. They do real news 22 hours a day. (Unless that's changed. I haven't been watching TV for a few months.)
Fully agree.
That’s the exact attitude and type of unintelligent reply that makes coastal liberal ivory tower elitists hate us. Use your brain, and stop acting like a brainwashed caveman, or it’s a bad look for GEOTUS and any form of a patriot or liberty movement.
If you act like a retard, they’ll assume you are one, and your allies like myself will identify you as part of the problem and not the solution. Do better kiddo, and have some respect for your elders. I’ll tell you what. I’ll be on the corner of Madison and 3rd on the sixth. If you don’t come say hi and let me prove to you that I’m not only your elder, but very much a Trump supporter and patriot, then YOU are a big mouthed wimp. Hope to see you there.
You’re not a bright individual, and you’re giving a bad look to this community. I don’t use Reddit. You keep making wild assumptions and sound really foolish. You don’t know me. You’ve said to F off back to Facebook, and now Reddit. You also assumed I like or am from Lincoln Project of Fox. Are you mentally ill? How hard is it for you to read a constructive question and give a reasonable answer like others can? Or is that above your 3rd grade education level?
Nope, fuck FOX.