Dooming is disinfo as well. It demoralizes and turns an uphill battle into a foregone conclusion.
I appreciate discussion and valid doubts, but blackpilling is just as, if not more damaging than blind faith. Shit can actually get done by pure force of will. Remember that.
Ok, but calling everyone who raises a question a “doomer” is becoming the “white supremacy ” argument of the Donald...it’s losing all meaning because it’s over applied. I think most people who come here start from a position of skepticism, and we shouldn’t be slapping people down for asking questions and raising concerns. That’s our greatest strength, so let’s be careful about the name calling.
We really need to return to a differentiation between ‘dooming’ and ‘concern trolling’.
There are valid concerns that can be brought up without acting as a demoralizer like concern trolls do. “I am concerned about Trump’s action on this, someone explain more info” vs “I love Trump, but this is really concerning, maybe he’s compromised/unable to act”, which casts doubt on Trump and makes him seem potentially useless or corrupt, in violation of rule #1.
Dooming, as it started and I still view it, is just blackpilling. There are days when every Pede gets into a funk, but no matter what happens, it’s never as bad as we imagine it will be. 4 years of Trump have shown that he is not to be underestimated. If we are in a funk, it’s not a good time to be spreading negativity all over others that might be pushed into a dooming frenzy of their own. I think a lot of this is actual infiltration, but we should be aware of ourselves. Lift each other up, not demoralize.
I know a lot of newer Pedes come from other news sites, and those comment sections are full of angst. TDW can be a positive place without complacency or being unrealistic.
Fair enough. We just need to be careful that we don’t eat ourselves the way the left does. As you say, there are times we all feel down, so it’s good to put proper context on things. Let’s not shit on disagreement and cast people out without some effort to lift each other up. Difficult times require us to stand on principle, and I just don’t want us to become a mirror of leftist cancel culture.
Indeed, but one could argue that foreign interests would benefit much more greatly by fomenting civil unrest (let alone war) rather than just demoralizing a major US political faction. Have to consider the geopolitical angles just as much as the domestic ones.
Dooming is disinfo as well. It demoralizes and turns an uphill battle into a foregone conclusion.
I appreciate discussion and valid doubts, but blackpilling is just as, if not more damaging than blind faith. Shit can actually get done by pure force of will. Remember that.
Ok, but calling everyone who raises a question a “doomer” is becoming the “white supremacy ” argument of the Donald...it’s losing all meaning because it’s over applied. I think most people who come here start from a position of skepticism, and we shouldn’t be slapping people down for asking questions and raising concerns. That’s our greatest strength, so let’s be careful about the name calling.
We really need to return to a differentiation between ‘dooming’ and ‘concern trolling’.
There are valid concerns that can be brought up without acting as a demoralizer like concern trolls do. “I am concerned about Trump’s action on this, someone explain more info” vs “I love Trump, but this is really concerning, maybe he’s compromised/unable to act”, which casts doubt on Trump and makes him seem potentially useless or corrupt, in violation of rule #1.
Dooming, as it started and I still view it, is just blackpilling. There are days when every Pede gets into a funk, but no matter what happens, it’s never as bad as we imagine it will be. 4 years of Trump have shown that he is not to be underestimated. If we are in a funk, it’s not a good time to be spreading negativity all over others that might be pushed into a dooming frenzy of their own. I think a lot of this is actual infiltration, but we should be aware of ourselves. Lift each other up, not demoralize.
I know a lot of newer Pedes come from other news sites, and those comment sections are full of angst. TDW can be a positive place without complacency or being unrealistic.
Fair enough. We just need to be careful that we don’t eat ourselves the way the left does. As you say, there are times we all feel down, so it’s good to put proper context on things. Let’s not shit on disagreement and cast people out without some effort to lift each other up. Difficult times require us to stand on principle, and I just don’t want us to become a mirror of leftist cancel culture.
I missed where Uri Geller had entered the chat.
Indeed, but one could argue that foreign interests would benefit much more greatly by fomenting civil unrest (let alone war) rather than just demoralizing a major US political faction. Have to consider the geopolitical angles just as much as the domestic ones.