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Konrad 3 points ago +3 / -0

No, the real question is: how did an explosive device get into its basement?

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CrusadingPowerUser [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Reality is home dude knew some kind of centralized meta data analyzing packet level snooping / encryption deciphering machine was in there that was being used to aggregate data in order to control the population or some shit

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Konrad 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm pretty good with explosives. I can assure you whatever destroyed the RV didn't cause the underground damage to the AT&T facility.

But is this the work of one crazy? Much as I distrust the Fblies, my magic 8 ball says yes. Sure, two explosions. But the RV explosion is interesting. No cratering. Blast overpressure at distance. Significant suck-back. But no flash ignition of curtains or awning fabrics. Definitely not HE. But the tree standing next to the RV position says no to AFNO or mining power-gel. But there are two materials that could fit. And if our crazy could build either, then they would have had the skills to blow up the basement of the AT&T facility even though their RV was on the opposite side of the road.

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streakybacon 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't think anyone can say with any certainty yet what the nature of the blast was.

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Konrad 1 point ago +1 / -0

I can assure you that what destroyed the RV was not HE, properly mixed AFNO or Torvex power-gel.

Forget the videos (most of which have been doctored), from the stills, I can tell which group that explosive belongs to. No, I cannot make an assurance as to which exact one, but I don't have the RV insulation foam to analyze. These are liquid materials, and an outer un-deflegated/detonated layer will be projected and impregnate materials near the device. If I had samples to test I could tell you which of four. But I am being holistic in the face of absence of chemical data, and two high probabilities are in the frame.

Explosives forensics is interesting. You can tell if it was HE just by gas-spalling on close metal elements without any chemical testing. But so too you can get a read on the material used, just by looking at the area blast effects. Every touch leaves its trace.

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streakybacon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sounds interesting..but all we have are grainy videos.

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Konrad 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, I told you to ignore the videos and focus on the stills.

There's too many garbage "videos" doing the rounds. The stills are far easier to assess for image manipulation via data compression anomaly.

Besides, security cam video is only good for so much. Auto light level adjustment stuffs everthing up. No hope of getting chemical signature from fireball.

The video gives you twin blasts, both chemical. The stills give you the power of the underground blast and the peculiarities of the later RV blast. The second looks like TATP, but who could pre-mix that much and hold it stable? Refrigerated to prevent exothermic reaction from impurities/contaminants? Mxing just prior to initiation?

Or one of the others that would match TATPs weird characteristics?

It's not looking like one of the FBLies wind up mice to me. (Despite their prior form).

I'm sure it wasn't a "5G conspiracy theorist", but I'm getting the suspicion it wasn't an FBLies wind up mouse. The FBLies are fools, but they cannot be complete idiots. I can see how the underground blast was accomplished from across the street, but there is no way the FBLies would have helped one of their pet mice do that.

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streakybacon 1 point ago +1 / -0

No offense bro, but I don't care how many stills you look at. You can't tell me what caused those explosions or exactly how it happened just by looking at them.

I appreciate you have knowledge on the subject but I'm gonna have to ask you to back off with your "No just look at it, I told you this is how it is and there is no other way, trust me this is the internet and I'm an expert" comments.

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MadMaxUSMC 2 points ago +2 / -0

I watched an interview with an eyewitness (early 20's ginger looking guy) in one of the adjacent buildings. He said he heard a couple of rounds of gunfire. Close enough that he and his girlfriend barricaded the door. Then the warning message for a while, then the explosions.

Then he said he actually heard 3 distinct explosions when the bomb went off.

I can't find that video anymore but I'm sure of the details he relayed. Can't vouch for anything else though.

Bottom line: Could there have been more than one bomb?

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MadMaxUSMC 2 points ago +2 / -0

Good looking out. There's more to that interview, Because what I saw, right after they cut it, I'm quite sure he said something like "We heard 3 different explosions but they said it was just one, I don't know, whatever."

That was the info that made me remember that interview in the first place.

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Gooseontheloose 1 point ago +1 / -0

Our hopes and dreams

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NoSoMo_ThanU 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's a switching / routing exchange where all of their lines come in. It's got routers / switches / telco stuff / massive hub where all sorts of comm lines come together.