Is the Government Accountability Office have the power to rule over Congress or POTUS? That is a HELL NO! It's nothing but overpaid piss ants with an education in Liberal Bullshit.
And illegal immigrants who vote for them don't know that they aren't really cared about. They view that tap as an infinite ocean to keep their ship afloat.
Remember most of the 'Democrats' in congress have their seat due to fraud and not due to competence. There's realistic estimates that the combined Democrat machine fabricated in total half of Joe's '82m' votes. Just let that sink in how big this has grown over the decades.
If there was competence in congress a lot of problems would vanish.
Example: AOC 'won' versus a nerdy tech-econ guy that would likely do a good job and not constantly embarass himself. In cases like her they did not get caught as they have a 'believable' lie people can buy into ('good looks','latina').
They are very good at covering & spinning their activity with the MSM and we got 'just' lucky that the gap with Joe was so extreme that we finally got a look behind the curtain.
There's no way nutjobs like Ilhan, Pelosi, Waters etc 'win' >50%+ in a free and fair election.
Just look at Georgia where you have this turbo lightweight Osoff. Look at his CV. He's hot air on steroids. No way this guy would win without any sorts of hacks.
Bottomline:
Get rid of the fraud = get rid of the dummys.
That's nice to thik, but the truth is simpler. Democrats are voted in by non whites, LGBTs and Soyboys. That's it. The more of those 3 groups, the better democrats do.
The fact that people are choosing this fucking time of all times to complain about bloated Omnibus bills shows that there aren't just shills, there are too many idiots here agreeing with them.
To be fair many people didn't know about the level of corruption that is going on in our government. I didn't know shit about government before Trump appeared. So you can see this as people finally waking up. Our country has been taken over by traitors that are selling us out to foreign countries and Illegals. We just reached the point of no return. Either we change now or accept that there is no longer a republic or constitution and that our country is no more.
Truth. We need to talk about what needs to be done to get Trump in office and then destroy these voting machines. We need voting fixed or its the same old same old
I have to say, I love that Congress is in session fighting between themselves during the 1 week that so many in the US take off as vacation. They're arguing, fighting, scheming, plotting, to get their pet line items supported and to defeat the other side. All because Trump said $2k and cut the fat.
And it has rightly been pointed out here that since so many governors have shut down so many small businesses this is basically going to be a $2K Amazon Gift Card.
Yep.
In the 30 years I've been watching politics, every single economic 'crisis' that requires government gibs has been a manufactured crisis to enrich the powerful.
Don’t feel too bad man. Just realize that it will negatively affect everyone even if they’re too stupid to understand it. All that matters is the continued destruction of the middle class, and that’s exactly what they are doing. This is another example of the devaluation of the dollar while also transferring wealth from the middle class to the lower class who pay little to no taxes at all, and the ultra rich who can afford to take the hit.
I hate to say this, but this unfortunately must happen in order for more average Americans to wake up and be pushed out of their comfort zone. Until more of the 40 HAW+ working class folks from both the lower class and middle class are uncomfortable and angry because their quality of life is declining fast enough for them to actually notice even though they are working more and making more money, nothing will change.
I’ve been knowing the game is rigged, after going though, and watching what went on after Katrina in 2005 with federal money first hand. Ever since then I have realized that it doesn’t pay to be responsible and physically conservative at least on the books.😉 It’s all about living for the moment for at least half the country, and why not, the government bails them out by stealing from others who are still just comfortable enough to let it continue. ITS ALL A FUCKING JOKE, AND WERE THE PUNCHLINE. 😡
This 100%. Love Trump, but I agree. The people who make between 76k - 300k are the ones who get fucked the hardest. I wish Trump would fight for us in that regard.
As someone who makes well under $76k, I completely agree. I never realized how badly you guys get hit until I learned about the Alternative Minimum Tax. That right there is one reason I am glad I will never likely make that kinda $.
I thought they should have just extended the unemployment... That way the money is only going to people with out a job... I'm sure a lot of people take advantage of it but I believe the majority are people who really need it... My neighbors lost their job when their factory they were at for 15 years shut down... They were told it would only be a few weeks and now 4 or 5 months later they are depending on 237 a piece a week to feed them and their kids... They kept waiting thinking the factory would open back up like they said.. it was their life, they made good money there and there's NOTHING else around here other than Walmart and gas stations.... It's been rough man I have watched them slowly lose everything and now they only have one car... I won't go on but it's been AWFUL for them man... I've commented on here a few times because I just wish I could do something for them... I have personal seen what this bullshit lock down is doing to average middle to lower middle class people!! ... They don't know what to do! Now they can't afford to move and can't afford to stay
That's why I said they should have just extended the unemployment... That way you know it's only going to people without a job... And maybe extended the eviction moratorium...
I totally agree with you, and trust me, that’s far from the only thing I disagree with the president, but I also realize that we’ll never know exactly what he is dealing with behind closed doors with these crazy evil motherfuckers, so I cut him more of a break more times than I probably should. Honestly, Minecraft is the only answer at this point. Even if Trump had another 8 years, the only way he could turn this ship around was if he had a super majority with total cooperation, which he won’t and never will. All he was ever going to be able to do was slow/stop the bleeding for a bit. The ship has been sinking for a long time now, and is FUBAR. The only answer now is the thing that we are constantly told is never the answer from a very young age. The harsh reality is that not only is it usually the answer, often times, it’s the only answer. 🤷🏼♂️
Yes, but unfortunately just like the rest of the BET BOIS you have listed, the military has also been infiltrated by communist subversives. To what degree, I’m not sure, but unfortunately it’s not an insignificant amount. I honestly believe it will still come down to WTP aka Minecraft on some level. I hope I’m wrong, I really do, but after seeing how even the SCOTUS has turned their back on the country, I see no other path.
This, it could be a genius move from trump but the media will spin it the other way and thats all the sheep need. Just like when he called for the 2k the next day all over the news was Pelosi calling for more money and trump pardoning his "criminal friends".
I saw on Fox this morning they already aren't giving the full story. Made no mention of the impoundment act and made it out like Democrats were pushing for the $2k, not Trump. Clown world.
Despite the Truth behind Anon's Post there is one thing that he, and everyone else, seems to forget. It's the Tree Falling in the Woods phenomenon. It doesn't matter if you're right. It doesn't matter how much you scream out the Truth. If there's nobody there to either 1) Hear It or 2) Pass it Along then it doesn't exist. Trump's inability to deal with the Social Media/Section 230 Issue along with having the entire MSM print/talk about the exact opposite of what is happening means that the Public only know things they are told and what they're being told is that Orange Man Bad....yet again...just like we told you he was.
For those who know a bit of history, allow me to synopsize: "REMEMBER THE MAINE!"
Trump's inability to deal with the Social Media/Section 230 Issue
I'm a supporter and will call him on bad decisions, but you'd have to be a fool to think any president had a snowball's chance in hell of muzzling the power of social media. It is the keystone of the deep state's power structure.
I guess we'll see if we truly have what it takes on the 6th. Whether or not the energy of the Founding Fathers is alive and well within us or just an idea that we refuse to act on...
Hell I more or less got kicked out of the military for openly stating that Dems would be swinging from trees by now if the FFs were alive today...
Larger the empire the more likely it is to collapse, and this one is being built on a foundation of sand.
Unlike before, there isn’t a nation like America out there as a shining example.
Last time someone really decided to stick it to the globalists America was there to stop him. There's no America to step in on the side of communism this time.
Okay, so what is your alternative? What was the best move here, in your oh so expert opinion?
A veto wouldn't work; the bill passed with numbers well exceeding the requisite super majority needed to overturn an attempt to reject it.
A pocket veto wouldn't work; Congress has to be out of session for ten days for it to be an option, and they can work around it. At worst, they could just reintroduce the same bill, and we'd be back in the same spot.
The strategy that Trump has employed at least forces them to own their votes on each slice of the pork, or else do more stalling than could be reasonably expected to come from the pocket veto. It's better than nothing, because there is still shame at play. It's easy to say "a hur hur hur I just voted for the bill, I didn't see what was in it, a hur hur hur". It's not so easy to defend your vote for each and every item, especially when there are well over 5000 pages of pork. Even overturning one item would be a net positive over what would be going through otherwise.
If you think that they don't need to save face, then you need to pay better attention. These seats aren't static, Dominion or not. Democrats lost seats, even with massive fraud at play. Even without us, there is still going to be internal politics, and the individual cannot afford to show weakness. Besides, if they force the pork on us on an item-by-item vote, then that is all the more weight being added to the scale of this war, while also showing us who our open enemies are.
Trump was dealt a shit hand. He couldn't veto it because he would have given up any leverage that he had in the process. He couldn't pocket veto it, because that would just be stalling the veto, and that relied on the "mercy" of Congress, anyway. At least with this, he gets stalling built in at worst, and his concerns publicly read out at best.
Unless you have some better play, this was the best move that he could have made with the hand that he had. I would bet that Trump has put far much more thought and planning into this than you have, and that he damn well knows more about the whole situation than any of us do.
So enough with the bitching and moaning. Enough crying like small children because Trump made the only play that he could at this time, and you don't like it. If you want to whine, and cry, and doom, then go to Reddit with the other people who wanted the bill to pass with no fighting back. Dooming for the sake of Dooming doesn't belong here.
Suffices to say that very few members of congress have President Trump's back. A supermajority should have never happened. Bannon said it would take 20 years to get the country back. We will have to start at the local level a MAGA party and start running for public offices.
I completely agree with what you said. It's horrifying how upset everyone is reacting when you realize what he was dealt. Even War Room Pandemic today which are supposed to be fighters was nonstop bashing Trump about how he should have just made it clear that he will not sign it. Are they fucking serious? Perhaps the most important time in the entire history will take place in the next two - three weeks (we need as much support and as little resistance as possible) yet they want him to give a pointless fucking "I'm not signing it" just to virtue signal to everyone who already knows he's fighting for us. I say virtue signaling since congress 100% passes it regardless of what he does. By doing what War Room wanted he'll be getting blasted by the media on how Trump REFUSED to give the citizens in need a fucking stimulus check that many desperately need. I don't care if that's the truth it's the fucking narrative they will project.
He needs to convince the mass public that he's fighting for them. It's why you have ignorant people on social media now saying things along the lines of "where was this version of Trump fighting for the people prior to the election". They bought into the MSM lies but they are finally seeing some level of positivity from Trump thanks to this video going viral. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1343068648118874113
By signing the bill with rescissions he comes out with a win if they increase the money of the checks or if they remove the pork. If they refuse to acknowledge it they look like the enemies while he is the hero who fought for the citizens in need. It's literally a win/win situation while being dealt a pile of garbage yet most people here are infuriated by it. War Room even criticized him today by saying all he did was get bad headlines on how he caved to the pressure by signing it. Amazing how the people who literally say to ignore the MSM are literally following the MSM's talking points.
You're confused on what a pocket veto is. They have to stay in session all 10 days, if they adjourn at all during the 10 day session the bill dies.
Letting it go to the end of the 10 days would have been better. Is rather not have my name on something as acceptance. The mental gymnastics lately here to support this action are absurd, we all know the bill is shit Trump's name shouldn't be on it in any sorry of approving manner.
That doesn't work because congress found a way to NEVER ADJOURN! They haven't during the entire Trump presidency. They just let some low level simp do a roll call while everyone else is chilling at home. Trump literally had no alternative and he did the best he could.
Are you saying that he should have given up? To veto would have been to give up, to actually cave. At least he's fighting back, even if it doesn't meet your approval. It's not "mental gymnastics", it's actual thought and reasoning.
Trump isn't an idealist, he's a pragmatist. Don't pretend that he's in a position that's strong enough to live up to your ideals in this scenario. There's more at stake than your sense of pride, and his.
People tend to be really bad at politics. This was an excellent play by Trump, stopping Pelosi's attempt to turn this around on him. He will now force our representatives to take specific positions, and the public ire will be directed at them.
Every day more and more people are realizing that the media is not their friend and not to be trusted to the extent they did in the past. We are probably past the momentum needed to get the ball rolling downhill.
They have another move. The whole proxy vote garbage means that congress members can claim they had no idea their vote would be used "that way." Granted we learn who the Murkowskis are.
This is the real problem. Apple news headline was something to the effect of “Trump signs Onnibus surprisingly”, and Fox News had a similar headline, with no mention of the truth. They want to hide the fact that he is trying to help Americans because it would sway public opinion in his favor if everyone’s iPhone lit up with the headline “trumps bill would guarantee 2000 dollar checks to Americans and remove unnecessary spending of your tax dollars”
Do you really think anyone on Swamp Hill gives a flying fart ass what us Normal people think? The voting machines are fixed to the highest bidder, that's become apparent. If your not thinking that way you must be watching the MSM. Demand paper ballots!
The Act details how the President may send a “special message” to Congress about spending, on a line-by-line basis. But the Act does nothing to bind Congress’ hands in this sense, and as far as I can tell, they can simply reply (within 45 days) and say, “No, thanks Mr. President.”
Yes and they'll look like the enemy while Trump tried to be the hero who fought for us. Of course the media will try to downplay it but we already know this bill is receiving far more attention than others with this video getting 32.4m views on twitter alone https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1343068648118874113
Yes and they'll look like the enemy while Trump tried to be the hero who fought for us.
Nah, because we knew it was going to happen anyway because they have the votes to overturn a veto, holding on to the bill and not vetoing until they gave up was the only play.
They aren't going to line item anything and you know it.
They would push the bill through so your idea makes no sense. I never said they're going to remove anything. That's literally the point. Nothing will likely change except they have a giant spotlight on them now. Congress isn't on his side so he did the best thing possible.
They would push the bill through so your idea makes no sense.
Yeah, they would push it through anyway so why not veto it? But if you veto it it goes right to the vote. If he sits on it they have to stay in session.
Congress isn't on his side so he did the best thing possible.
No he didn't. Sitting on it was the best possible thing he could have done.
They are going to do nothing for 23 days, blame the delay on Trump (with help in the media), then give credit to Biden for delivering the checks on Jan 21.
And yours is the only comment regarding socialism. It seems the right is just as socialist as the left when they believe it's in their favour .
Fucking sad.
I don't want free money to be given out that destroys our economy. I also don't want to lose our entire country. If Trump thinks the winning move is raising the call from 600 to 2000, I am willing to see that through.
If Trump pulls this off, he has other means of attacking our debt - seizing assets re: the EO, or defaulting on Chinese debt.
I frankly don't care about the dept. WHAT I DO care ABOUT IS NOT BEING A SOCIALIST . I WANT CAPITALISM. I WANT THOSE THAT ARE NOT PREPARED TO GO BANKRUPT. I WANT FAIR COMPETITION . I don't want to see bailouts , i want foreclosures , evictions , deflation, THAT IS WHAT I WANT.
Best friend since the 1st grade is thinking of going with.. so is one of my partners... and a competitor... need as much info about what to do when / while there as we can get.
Or they can pass the new bill which is an entirely different law and drag their feet on the rest knowing that the vast majority of people don't know the difference between a million, billion or trillion and will just be happy they got some of the taxpayers money back to blow on cheap chinese shit.
Excellent if true, but I get the feeling they can just start spending the money and blame something random on Trump.
You remember when the first stimulus came out and it was a big deal who it was dispersed so as to get it to people immediately. But Pelosi insisted it was done through state offices or some crap and so some places never got it, but it was supposed to be a rush?
This is what I don’t fucking get. You got people like Cernovich and some moonlight retards on Twitter saying Trump folded and gives up to congress every year but doesn’t remember or see to know the Art of the Deal. This is a very clockwork play by Trump and he does things to move things along but by no stretch does he fold. I’m fucking lost with these fence sitters who won’t shut the fuck up lol.
From what I can gather, the way he signed it was basically to say that if they pass it as it currently is, he will withhold any money meant to go to foreign interests. Congress only has the purse strings, they can only open and close the purse, the executive can refuse to issue funds from the purse. Just like how they tried to impeach Trump for withholding money from the Ukraine, when he actually had every right to do so. But they were soo angry, because that's their fraud/bribe money that gets funneled back to them. That's why they used the excuse of a quid pro quo. Because they knew Trump could do it, so they had to feign his motives for doing it were what was the problem.
I believe it's a loss because Congress doesn't care about us. You think they will do the honourable thing? You call me a retarded shill, I think you're retarded for thinking any peaceful process or plan will save this country. A member of the house intelligence committee was caught sleeping with a Chinese spy for a few years. He has not resigned. He has not been removed from the committee. And you think Trump forcing these FAGGOTs to show everything they support, is going to change anything. You're the retarded one. Pelosi, Mitch, Feinstein, schumer, nadler, schiff, Clinton's, Obama's, Barr, Graham, romney, fauci, ALL need a 5.56 hole in their head.
It's a mix and they are constantly fighting. It still leans pro since Trump was their preferred candidate in 2016 and they helped him get elected in the first meme war.
I thought back in 2016 that a lot of 4chan users supported Trump because he would be the ultimate Washington establishment troll...and his presidency would bring on a lot of drama and plenty of lulz.
They'll delay for 45 days and blame it on Trump, your average person has no fucking clue what's going on or even how Washington works so they will believe MSNBC.
Lol the media will cover for their allies... Trump will do zero damage to them. They are going to do everything they can put Biden in. Why would they give in when a new president is only weeks away in their minds. Wake up people
ideally Trump gets what he wants out of a situation because he has our nation's best interests in mind. However, he has had to fight for everything he's won for us so far because our best interests are not in the best interests of our enemies in Washington.
I don't know where you are getting this info but its wrong. There is no such thing as a line veto anymore, it was ruled unconstitutional. The entire bill was signed, it was symbolically sent back to congress with pork removed, there is no reason the pork will be removed nor does it need to be removed legally. Pelosi is putting forth an increase from 600$ to $2000 on the bill that was PASSED knowing republicans will vote no and look like tools. The entire bill has already been signed, pork and all. Pakistan is getting its 10 Billion and we are getting $600.
It isn't even like a line veto because there's no veto to it. You seem like a smooth brain. Don't post if you don't understand simple basics of the subject you are discussing.
Im loling that you threw a fit and went through downvoting all of my comment history, just because you got called out on bullshit fake news that you are spewing. Sit down and let the adults discuss the election. You arent old enough to vote.
Don’t forget illegals will also get this plus back pay from the last one if it passes. Paid your tax money when all they do is drain our social services.
Always wait 24-48hrs before reacting to breaking news so you can get past the spin, speculation, and rumor. Nobody knows what Trump is going to do, so it's stupid to get emotional about it before seeing how it plays out. The fact is our system is absolutely bloated with all manner of legal manoeuvres.. this is why people have teams of lawyers and also why talking heads on the internet aren't anywhere near as sure as they act.
Pelosi been holding this up for months now no reason to stop. they don't care about actual Americans, they only care about the people they can cater to and keep or get votes to stay in power, that's it.
Of course they will let the people suffer.
They could care less if their voters live or die.
What does this mean in the current context?
doubt it means fuck all
It means fuck all.
It means more pissed off people on the 6th. Which I imagine is President Trump’s goal.
Exactly. They just stole the election, the deciding voice of the people, away. Crystal clear that "enraging the public" is not a real concern to them.
You mean as in 'Fuck All'... Fuck
Is the Government Accountability Office have the power to rule over Congress or POTUS? That is a HELL NO! It's nothing but overpaid piss ants with an education in Liberal Bullshit.
I bet they wouldn't have standing with SCOTUS. And even if they do, how many divisions does the GSA have?
Look at me, I've learned from the Deomocrats - who gives a shit what the norms are or what the laws seem to say?
Way to go, GEOTUS!
And illegal immigrants who vote for them don't know that they aren't really cared about. They view that tap as an infinite ocean to keep their ship afloat.
Remember most of the 'Democrats' in congress have their seat due to fraud and not due to competence. There's realistic estimates that the combined Democrat machine fabricated in total half of Joe's '82m' votes. Just let that sink in how big this has grown over the decades.
If there was competence in congress a lot of problems would vanish.
Example: AOC 'won' versus a nerdy tech-econ guy that would likely do a good job and not constantly embarass himself. In cases like her they did not get caught as they have a 'believable' lie people can buy into ('good looks','latina').
They are very good at covering & spinning their activity with the MSM and we got 'just' lucky that the gap with Joe was so extreme that we finally got a look behind the curtain.
There's no way nutjobs like Ilhan, Pelosi, Waters etc 'win' >50%+ in a free and fair election.
Just look at Georgia where you have this turbo lightweight Osoff. Look at his CV. He's hot air on steroids. No way this guy would win without any sorts of hacks.
Bottomline: Get rid of the fraud = get rid of the dummys.
I am just hoping, if GEOTUS has the raw voting data, SFODD or SEALs will walk into Congress on the 6th and arrest illegally elected.
That's nice to thik, but the truth is simpler. Democrats are voted in by non whites, LGBTs and Soyboys. That's it. The more of those 3 groups, the better democrats do.
They get more votes made up by Dominion. They steal this election, we won't matter.
Under Biden, working to maintain good public opinion wont even be necessary!
No wonder they want population control
They intentionally didnt pass anything so as not to give trump a win during the election...they give zero fucks.
The fact that people are choosing this fucking time of all times to complain about bloated Omnibus bills shows that there aren't just shills, there are too many idiots here agreeing with them.
To be fair many people didn't know about the level of corruption that is going on in our government. I didn't know shit about government before Trump appeared. So you can see this as people finally waking up. Our country has been taken over by traitors that are selling us out to foreign countries and Illegals. We just reached the point of no return. Either we change now or accept that there is no longer a republic or constitution and that our country is no more.
One of Pres. Trump's legacy, waking a sleeping giant in the American people about who our leaders really are.
Truth. We need to talk about what needs to be done to get Trump in office and then destroy these voting machines. We need voting fixed or its the same old same old
I have to say, I love that Congress is in session fighting between themselves during the 1 week that so many in the US take off as vacation. They're arguing, fighting, scheming, plotting, to get their pet line items supported and to defeat the other side. All because Trump said $2k and cut the fat.
These people are Swamp rats. Fighting to sell us out and taking our money is nothing new, for them it's just a tuesday.
No doubt, I just like seeing them fight amongst themselves for their patrons instead of sit at home and enjoy the holidays.
Truth!
And it has rightly been pointed out here that since so many governors have shut down so many small businesses this is basically going to be a $2K Amazon Gift Card.
Stocking Mill. No more BRCC after their 2nd ammendment Kyle thing. Ever.
Excuse me sir, Nitride coated is how they prefer to labeled.
Yep. In the 30 years I've been watching politics, every single economic 'crisis' that requires government gibs has been a manufactured crisis to enrich the powerful.
Yup, while transferring just enough gibs to the lower class who already pays no taxes to keep them enslaved and docile.
Don’t feel too bad man. Just realize that it will negatively affect everyone even if they’re too stupid to understand it. All that matters is the continued destruction of the middle class, and that’s exactly what they are doing. This is another example of the devaluation of the dollar while also transferring wealth from the middle class to the lower class who pay little to no taxes at all, and the ultra rich who can afford to take the hit.
I hate to say this, but this unfortunately must happen in order for more average Americans to wake up and be pushed out of their comfort zone. Until more of the 40 HAW+ working class folks from both the lower class and middle class are uncomfortable and angry because their quality of life is declining fast enough for them to actually notice even though they are working more and making more money, nothing will change.
I’ve been knowing the game is rigged, after going though, and watching what went on after Katrina in 2005 with federal money first hand. Ever since then I have realized that it doesn’t pay to be responsible and physically conservative at least on the books.😉 It’s all about living for the moment for at least half the country, and why not, the government bails them out by stealing from others who are still just comfortable enough to let it continue. ITS ALL A FUCKING JOKE, AND WERE THE PUNCHLINE. 😡
This 100%. Love Trump, but I agree. The people who make between 76k - 300k are the ones who get fucked the hardest. I wish Trump would fight for us in that regard.
As someone who makes well under $76k, I completely agree. I never realized how badly you guys get hit until I learned about the Alternative Minimum Tax. That right there is one reason I am glad I will never likely make that kinda $.
I thought they should have just extended the unemployment... That way the money is only going to people with out a job... I'm sure a lot of people take advantage of it but I believe the majority are people who really need it... My neighbors lost their job when their factory they were at for 15 years shut down... They were told it would only be a few weeks and now 4 or 5 months later they are depending on 237 a piece a week to feed them and their kids... They kept waiting thinking the factory would open back up like they said.. it was their life, they made good money there and there's NOTHING else around here other than Walmart and gas stations.... It's been rough man I have watched them slowly lose everything and now they only have one car... I won't go on but it's been AWFUL for them man... I've commented on here a few times because I just wish I could do something for them... I have personal seen what this bullshit lock down is doing to average middle to lower middle class people!! ... They don't know what to do! Now they can't afford to move and can't afford to stay
That's why I said they should have just extended the unemployment... That way you know it's only going to people without a job... And maybe extended the eviction moratorium...
I totally agree with you, and trust me, that’s far from the only thing I disagree with the president, but I also realize that we’ll never know exactly what he is dealing with behind closed doors with these crazy evil motherfuckers, so I cut him more of a break more times than I probably should. Honestly, Minecraft is the only answer at this point. Even if Trump had another 8 years, the only way he could turn this ship around was if he had a super majority with total cooperation, which he won’t and never will. All he was ever going to be able to do was slow/stop the bleeding for a bit. The ship has been sinking for a long time now, and is FUBAR. The only answer now is the thing that we are constantly told is never the answer from a very young age. The harsh reality is that not only is it usually the answer, often times, it’s the only answer. 🤷🏼♂️
Yes, but unfortunately just like the rest of the BET BOIS you have listed, the military has also been infiltrated by communist subversives. To what degree, I’m not sure, but unfortunately it’s not an insignificant amount. I honestly believe it will still come down to WTP aka Minecraft on some level. I hope I’m wrong, I really do, but after seeing how even the SCOTUS has turned their back on the country, I see no other path.
Sad to see fellow pedes crawling and begging like Democrats.
Why is it china welfare if it is returning tax dollars to those it is stolen from?
They dont need voters, they have dominion now, so your vote doesnt matter anyways.
That's a scary truth, Why this time we are in is so crictical
That plus the more people die the more the rest will live in fear.
The more Americans that die the more "universal healthcare" they're able to bestow bedridden 3rd world illegal aliens.
This, it could be a genius move from trump but the media will spin it the other way and thats all the sheep need. Just like when he called for the 2k the next day all over the news was Pelosi calling for more money and trump pardoning his "criminal friends".
I saw on Fox this morning they already aren't giving the full story. Made no mention of the impoundment act and made it out like Democrats were pushing for the $2k, not Trump. Clown world.
Ah I see the problem: you're watching Fox
Gotta keep an eye on what the enemy is doing.
Promoting the Chinese knock off President. Nothing new.
This guy watches fox lol
ThIs gUy wAtChEs fOx.
Grow up. Did I say Fox was right? No. I also check in with CNN sometimes too to gather a temperature check on things.
Pirate that shit don't give them views.
I'd be curious how do you pirate morning shows?
IPTV
Admit it. You find Brett Baier to be svelte and sexy.
That would be VERY bad... if anybody watched those fuckwads.
EXACTLY!
Despite the Truth behind Anon's Post there is one thing that he, and everyone else, seems to forget. It's the Tree Falling in the Woods phenomenon. It doesn't matter if you're right. It doesn't matter how much you scream out the Truth. If there's nobody there to either 1) Hear It or 2) Pass it Along then it doesn't exist. Trump's inability to deal with the Social Media/Section 230 Issue along with having the entire MSM print/talk about the exact opposite of what is happening means that the Public only know things they are told and what they're being told is that Orange Man Bad....yet again...just like we told you he was.
For those who know a bit of history, allow me to synopsize: "REMEMBER THE MAINE!"
Nice analogy
I'm a supporter and will call him on bad decisions, but you'd have to be a fool to think any president had a snowball's chance in hell of muzzling the power of social media. It is the keystone of the deep state's power structure.
This. I'm blown away this year by the power of the press.
And that my friend, is what we are here for. Get on those meme cannons soldier.
I guess we'll see if we truly have what it takes on the 6th. Whether or not the energy of the Founding Fathers is alive and well within us or just an idea that we refuse to act on...
Hell I more or less got kicked out of the military for openly stating that Dems would be swinging from trees by now if the FFs were alive today...
Our cities?
A civil war now, just like the first, can set America up for success long into the future.
A “peaceful” transition to communism ensures we enter 1000 years of darkness, and liberty is extinguished on this planet.
More like 50-100 years tops before it collapses like they always do.
Collapse, and then what? Unlike before, there isn’t a nation like America out there as a shining example.
If they gain control, they will keep control. Globalism is a completely different game.
Larger the empire the more likely it is to collapse, and this one is being built on a foundation of sand.
Last time someone really decided to stick it to the globalists America was there to stop him. There's no America to step in on the side of communism this time.
Trump isn't a cop, ding dong. He literally can't arrest anyone.
See you on the 6th in DC.
Tell me how the President arrests people.
General Flynn, Sydney Powell, and Roger Stone working on forming a special counsel is a big deal imo.
I'm still waiting on the report for that ex order. That too, is a big deal.
I think they are keeping Trump updated on what's in it so far based on things he and his legal team are saying and the drips we've been getting.
Okay, so what is your alternative? What was the best move here, in your oh so expert opinion?
A veto wouldn't work; the bill passed with numbers well exceeding the requisite super majority needed to overturn an attempt to reject it.
A pocket veto wouldn't work; Congress has to be out of session for ten days for it to be an option, and they can work around it. At worst, they could just reintroduce the same bill, and we'd be back in the same spot.
The strategy that Trump has employed at least forces them to own their votes on each slice of the pork, or else do more stalling than could be reasonably expected to come from the pocket veto. It's better than nothing, because there is still shame at play. It's easy to say "a hur hur hur I just voted for the bill, I didn't see what was in it, a hur hur hur". It's not so easy to defend your vote for each and every item, especially when there are well over 5000 pages of pork. Even overturning one item would be a net positive over what would be going through otherwise.
If you think that they don't need to save face, then you need to pay better attention. These seats aren't static, Dominion or not. Democrats lost seats, even with massive fraud at play. Even without us, there is still going to be internal politics, and the individual cannot afford to show weakness. Besides, if they force the pork on us on an item-by-item vote, then that is all the more weight being added to the scale of this war, while also showing us who our open enemies are.
Trump was dealt a shit hand. He couldn't veto it because he would have given up any leverage that he had in the process. He couldn't pocket veto it, because that would just be stalling the veto, and that relied on the "mercy" of Congress, anyway. At least with this, he gets stalling built in at worst, and his concerns publicly read out at best.
Unless you have some better play, this was the best move that he could have made with the hand that he had. I would bet that Trump has put far much more thought and planning into this than you have, and that he damn well knows more about the whole situation than any of us do.
So enough with the bitching and moaning. Enough crying like small children because Trump made the only play that he could at this time, and you don't like it. If you want to whine, and cry, and doom, then go to Reddit with the other people who wanted the bill to pass with no fighting back. Dooming for the sake of Dooming doesn't belong here.
Suffices to say that very few members of congress have President Trump's back. A supermajority should have never happened. Bannon said it would take 20 years to get the country back. We will have to start at the local level a MAGA party and start running for public offices.
Assuming they allow you on the ballot, and assuming the ballot means anything.
I completely agree with what you said. It's horrifying how upset everyone is reacting when you realize what he was dealt. Even War Room Pandemic today which are supposed to be fighters was nonstop bashing Trump about how he should have just made it clear that he will not sign it. Are they fucking serious? Perhaps the most important time in the entire history will take place in the next two - three weeks (we need as much support and as little resistance as possible) yet they want him to give a pointless fucking "I'm not signing it" just to virtue signal to everyone who already knows he's fighting for us. I say virtue signaling since congress 100% passes it regardless of what he does. By doing what War Room wanted he'll be getting blasted by the media on how Trump REFUSED to give the citizens in need a fucking stimulus check that many desperately need. I don't care if that's the truth it's the fucking narrative they will project.
He needs to convince the mass public that he's fighting for them. It's why you have ignorant people on social media now saying things along the lines of "where was this version of Trump fighting for the people prior to the election". They bought into the MSM lies but they are finally seeing some level of positivity from Trump thanks to this video going viral. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1343068648118874113
By signing the bill with rescissions he comes out with a win if they increase the money of the checks or if they remove the pork. If they refuse to acknowledge it they look like the enemies while he is the hero who fought for the citizens in need. It's literally a win/win situation while being dealt a pile of garbage yet most people here are infuriated by it. War Room even criticized him today by saying all he did was get bad headlines on how he caved to the pressure by signing it. Amazing how the people who literally say to ignore the MSM are literally following the MSM's talking points.
"U.S. Senate: Glossary Term | Pocket Veto" https://www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/pocket_veto.htm
You're confused on what a pocket veto is. They have to stay in session all 10 days, if they adjourn at all during the 10 day session the bill dies.
Letting it go to the end of the 10 days would have been better. Is rather not have my name on something as acceptance. The mental gymnastics lately here to support this action are absurd, we all know the bill is shit Trump's name shouldn't be on it in any sorry of approving manner.
That doesn't work because congress found a way to NEVER ADJOURN! They haven't during the entire Trump presidency. They just let some low level simp do a roll call while everyone else is chilling at home. Trump literally had no alternative and he did the best he could.
Then what could he have done better?
Are you saying that he should have given up? To veto would have been to give up, to actually cave. At least he's fighting back, even if it doesn't meet your approval. It's not "mental gymnastics", it's actual thought and reasoning.
Trump isn't an idealist, he's a pragmatist. Don't pretend that he's in a position that's strong enough to live up to your ideals in this scenario. There's more at stake than your sense of pride, and his.
Very well said, please make this its own post pede.
THIS!
People tend to be really bad at politics. This was an excellent play by Trump, stopping Pelosi's attempt to turn this around on him. He will now force our representatives to take specific positions, and the public ire will be directed at them.
Not if the general public is kept in the dark though, and the media will do anything to make it so.
So? The media's control is considerably less than they make it out to be. Look how quickly people turned off Fox News.
Every day more and more people are realizing that the media is not their friend and not to be trusted to the extent they did in the past. We are probably past the momentum needed to get the ball rolling downhill.
This is exactly what the purpose of the first 4 years was. :)
Right. The media covered up the Hunter Biden story such that no one knew about it, what makes anyone think this time will be different?
They have another move. The whole proxy vote garbage means that congress members can claim they had no idea their vote would be used "that way." Granted we learn who the Murkowskis are.
This is the real problem. Apple news headline was something to the effect of “Trump signs Onnibus surprisingly”, and Fox News had a similar headline, with no mention of the truth. They want to hide the fact that he is trying to help Americans because it would sway public opinion in his favor if everyone’s iPhone lit up with the headline “trumps bill would guarantee 2000 dollar checks to Americans and remove unnecessary spending of your tax dollars”
It was a terrible move by trump. He caved. The massive pork bill passed and he signed it into law.
Wrong.
What were his options? Lay it out for me, what exact steps would you have taken, fellow patriot?
Veto
And quietly overrided by supermajority.
Next.
You don’t know that. And we accomplish nothing by passing it into law. You can’t win by losing.
What do I think they'll do?
They'll keep the pork, give the people 600, and blame Trump for forcing them to delay it.
They give no fucks about the people or what we think. They don't need our votes anymore. They have Dominion now.
Im ready to start executions myself
And the Cult of Covid will be put down as well!
Yes!
Do you really think anyone on Swamp Hill gives a flying fart ass what us Normal people think? The voting machines are fixed to the highest bidder, that's become apparent. If your not thinking that way you must be watching the MSM. Demand paper ballots!
Trump is using the optics to get the average low IQ normie mad as hell about not getting more money.
The Act details how the President may send a “special message” to Congress about spending, on a line-by-line basis. But the Act does nothing to bind Congress’ hands in this sense, and as far as I can tell, they can simply reply (within 45 days) and say, “No, thanks Mr. President.”
https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/trump-impoundment-control-act-and-what-it-means-for-trumps-red-lines/
Yes and they'll look like the enemy while Trump tried to be the hero who fought for us. Of course the media will try to downplay it but we already know this bill is receiving far more attention than others with this video getting 32.4m views on twitter alone https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1343068648118874113
Nah, because we knew it was going to happen anyway because they have the votes to overturn a veto, holding on to the bill and not vetoing until they gave up was the only play.
They aren't going to line item anything and you know it.
They would push the bill through so your idea makes no sense. I never said they're going to remove anything. That's literally the point. Nothing will likely change except they have a giant spotlight on them now. Congress isn't on his side so he did the best thing possible.
Yeah, they would push it through anyway so why not veto it? But if you veto it it goes right to the vote. If he sits on it they have to stay in session.
No he didn't. Sitting on it was the best possible thing he could have done.
MSM will spin it against Trump regardless.
They aren't "spinning" anything. They're straight up lying.
He must have an iq over 10,000 the 10D underwater teleporting chess This man plays is in fathomable
They are going to do nothing for 23 days, blame the delay on Trump (with help in the media), then give credit to Biden for delivering the checks on Jan 21.
Or so they think
And yours is the only comment regarding socialism. It seems the right is just as socialist as the left when they believe it's in their favour . Fucking sad.
Power is power, greed is greed. For those who want both, no principles exist.
I don't want free money to be given out that destroys our economy. I also don't want to lose our entire country. If Trump thinks the winning move is raising the call from 600 to 2000, I am willing to see that through.
If Trump pulls this off, he has other means of attacking our debt - seizing assets re: the EO, or defaulting on Chinese debt.
So, for the time being, let Trump play his cards.
I frankly don't care about the dept. WHAT I DO care ABOUT IS NOT BEING A SOCIALIST . I WANT CAPITALISM. I WANT THOSE THAT ARE NOT PREPARED TO GO BANKRUPT. I WANT FAIR COMPETITION . I don't want to see bailouts , i want foreclosures , evictions , deflation, THAT IS WHAT I WANT.
Best friend since the 1st grade is thinking of going with.. so is one of my partners... and a competitor... need as much info about what to do when / while there as we can get.
By this logic Bannon is a shill. War room just pointed out congress can say "no" the next day if they want.
In the balance it looks like Trump made the most he could out of thelis turd of a bill. You can't polish a turd.
Or they can pass the new bill which is an entirely different law and drag their feet on the rest knowing that the vast majority of people don't know the difference between a million, billion or trillion and will just be happy they got some of the taxpayers money back to blow on cheap chinese shit.
Excellent if true, but I get the feeling they can just start spending the money and blame something random on Trump.
You remember when the first stimulus came out and it was a big deal who it was dispersed so as to get it to people immediately. But Pelosi insisted it was done through state offices or some crap and so some places never got it, but it was supposed to be a rush?
Oh those were the days.
OK. Now THAT is an explanation I can follow. Thanks for posting!
This is what I don’t fucking get. You got people like Cernovich and some moonlight retards on Twitter saying Trump folded and gives up to congress every year but doesn’t remember or see to know the Art of the Deal. This is a very clockwork play by Trump and he does things to move things along but by no stretch does he fold. I’m fucking lost with these fence sitters who won’t shut the fuck up lol.
Stop following crying mental midget s like cernovich then.hes free to be as lousy as he is.youre free to ignore
I don’t follow him retard. People repost him.
They don't care about optics because the crooked media will cover for them and spin it as all Trumps doing.
And millions of idiots will believe them.
I don’t give a shit about the $2,000. I don’t want it passed at all and I want a law passed saying states enforcing lockdowns will be fined.
From what I can gather, the way he signed it was basically to say that if they pass it as it currently is, he will withhold any money meant to go to foreign interests. Congress only has the purse strings, they can only open and close the purse, the executive can refuse to issue funds from the purse. Just like how they tried to impeach Trump for withholding money from the Ukraine, when he actually had every right to do so. But they were soo angry, because that's their fraud/bribe money that gets funneled back to them. That's why they used the excuse of a quid pro quo. Because they knew Trump could do it, so they had to feign his motives for doing it were what was the problem.
Stable genius Trump plays 4D chess while Congress plays spank the monkey.
I believe it's a loss because Congress doesn't care about us. You think they will do the honourable thing? You call me a retarded shill, I think you're retarded for thinking any peaceful process or plan will save this country. A member of the house intelligence committee was caught sleeping with a Chinese spy for a few years. He has not resigned. He has not been removed from the committee. And you think Trump forcing these FAGGOTs to show everything they support, is going to change anything. You're the retarded one. Pelosi, Mitch, Feinstein, schumer, nadler, schiff, Clinton's, Obama's, Barr, Graham, romney, fauci, ALL need a 5.56 hole in their head.
This gives the Commies a second bite at the apple for their pork spending. $2000 in crumbs and 14Trillion for their buddies and other countries.
Is 4chan pro-Trump?
It's a mix and they are constantly fighting. It still leans pro since Trump was their preferred candidate in 2016 and they helped him get elected in the first meme war.
Some background if interested: https://pepethefrogfaith.wordpress.com/
I thought back in 2016 that a lot of 4chan users supported Trump because he would be the ultimate Washington establishment troll...and his presidency would bring on a lot of drama and plenty of lulz.
They'll delay for 45 days and blame it on Trump, your average person has no fucking clue what's going on or even how Washington works so they will believe MSNBC.
Lol the media will cover for their allies... Trump will do zero damage to them. They are going to do everything they can put Biden in. Why would they give in when a new president is only weeks away in their minds. Wake up people
They will delay, but say it is Trump’s fault for their inaction
2000 style!
THANK YOU
He's playing 4D chess, while most of dumb fucks can't play checks.
Or get checks.
ideally Trump gets what he wants out of a situation because he has our nation's best interests in mind. However, he has had to fight for everything he's won for us so far because our best interests are not in the best interests of our enemies in Washington.
Unfortunately they will delay and everyone will blame trump.
What is going on?
My best friend said Trump signed the bill and payments will be $600.
Does this mean Pakistan gets their TEN BILLION for gender studies???!!!
Yes Trump signed the bill and everything you said is true. The other comment has very wrong information in it.
I don't know where you are getting this info but its wrong. There is no such thing as a line veto anymore, it was ruled unconstitutional. The entire bill was signed, it was symbolically sent back to congress with pork removed, there is no reason the pork will be removed nor does it need to be removed legally. Pelosi is putting forth an increase from 600$ to $2000 on the bill that was PASSED knowing republicans will vote no and look like tools. The entire bill has already been signed, pork and all. Pakistan is getting its 10 Billion and we are getting $600.
It isn't even like a line veto because there's no veto to it. You seem like a smooth brain. Don't post if you don't understand simple basics of the subject you are discussing.
Im loling that you threw a fit and went through downvoting all of my comment history, just because you got called out on bullshit fake news that you are spewing. Sit down and let the adults discuss the election. You arent old enough to vote.
Don’t forget illegals will also get this plus back pay from the last one if it passes. Paid your tax money when all they do is drain our social services.
Always wait 24-48hrs before reacting to breaking news so you can get past the spin, speculation, and rumor. Nobody knows what Trump is going to do, so it's stupid to get emotional about it before seeing how it plays out. The fact is our system is absolutely bloated with all manner of legal manoeuvres.. this is why people have teams of lawyers and also why talking heads on the internet aren't anywhere near as sure as they act.
45 days until $600 it is
Nice. This was an amazingly simple explanation of President Trumps 4D check mate of the dummy Congress. Thank you.
This is dumb. They’ve been holding out already for MONTHS on giving Americans their covid relief, what’s an extra 45 days to give them Jack shit?
He threw them an optics bomb :D
It will be the 45 day option. They don't care
Check (2000) Mate? Hahahahaha
Pelosi been holding this up for months now no reason to stop. they don't care about actual Americans, they only care about the people they can cater to and keep or get votes to stay in power, that's it.
anon got the big brain