posted ago by ListenCarefully ago by ListenCarefully +10 / -4

And He was saying, “For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father.” — John 6:65

Millions would have this instead say, "No one can come to Christ unless they accept Him of their own free will."

But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. — John 1:12-13

Millions of Americans who believe the will of man has anything to do with conversion would be shocked to read this verse - that is, if they were honest.

For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I raised you up, to demonstrate My power in you, and that My name might be proclaimed throughout the whole earth.” So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. — Romans 9:15-18

So then it does not depend on the man who wills.

Repeat after me guys.

So then it does not depend on man's will, free or otherwise.

One more time.

SO THEN IT DOES NOT DEPEND ON THE MAN WHO WILLS ... BUT ON GOD AND HIS MERCY.

No one has a free will choice to accept Jesus. Not a single person. Only those God has chosen will believe, God will grant them faith to do so. He loves them. Jesus died for them. The rest are hated by God and devoted to destruction.

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Leroyjenkins7707 2 points ago +2 / -0

Gosh! I had no idea that an all loving God decided to make a race of mindless robots to spend eternity with him in Heaven....but only the "chosen" ones that he programmed to go to Heaven. Very inciteful indeed.

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ListenCarefully [S] -3 points ago +1 / -4

What does all loving mean to you? God is love, but at the same time He hates evil. If I love Jews, I'm going to hate the holocaust. If I love justice, I'm going to hate the fact someone spends 20 years in jail for littering. Nobody is a mindless robot, instead we are lumps of clay.