I am not arguing against showing up AT ALL. But you’re missing the point: they AREN’T voted in....they partner with the voting tabulation companies and the vote counters who switch ballots via adjudication or fake printed ballots early in the morning.
I'm all for showing up in the millions but the problem with this thinking is it implies a march is going to get house democrats to vote for Trump... not happening.
Maybe Pence is going to not count the votes? nothing I've read implies he has the power to do this... if a VP could just not select votes from states that didn't vote for them, I feel like one would have done it by now.
Military isn't going to march into congress and force them to accept Trump votes... they've already said they won't.
I don't even think patriots storming the capitol building are going to yield any results. The proceedings will be halted, and continued at a later date virtually.
tell me why you think house democrats will vote for Trump, so I can stop worrying. They don't give a shit about marches. if things get dicey they'll just retreat, or bunker up and vote later- probably virtually because of muh covid.
No state is sending 2 sets of electors. You've been misinformed. The republican parties in 7 states are sending unofficial 'alternate' electors more or less as a statement of intent in case enough of congress rejects the official votes certified by 50 statehouses (the only votes that matter per US law), but mathematically there's next to no chance of congress rejecting them.
We are out of time to take this election. Revolution or secession are all that's left. I vote secession, as it's the only option without mass civilian casualties, but I know I'm in the minority here. A lot of y'all seem to cherish the idea of getting even with your lib neighbors.
Not quite. State legislatures determine how electors are picked. (This is settled law, no GOP legislature in the country has overturned this process thus far) The State executive branch then certifies and sends counts of those electors' votes to Washington.
"It shall be the duty of the executive of each State, as soon as practicable after the conclusion of the appointment of the electors in such State by the final ascertainment, under and in pursuance of the laws of such State providing for such ascertainment, to communicate by registered mail under the seal of the State to the Archivist of the United States a certificate of such ascertainment of the electors appointed, setting forth the names of such electors and the canvass or other ascertainment under the laws of such State of the number of votes given or cast for each person for whose appointment any and all votes have been given or cast"
It's the duty of the State's executive to acknowledge any contested electoral results. No state has done this.
Same chapter, same section:
"If there shall have been any final determination in a State in the manner provided for by law of a controversy or contest concerning the appointment of all or any of the electors of such State, it shall be the duty of the executive of such State, as soon as practicable after such determination, to communicate under the seal of the State to the Archivist of the United States a certificate of such determination in form and manner as the same shall have been made"
The alternate votes were not sent by the state. On the 6th, the certified electoral votes will be counted. Pence will open the floor to objections following each vote.
With approval of one member of each house, an objection can be heard on the floor. Both houses would have to vote to overturn those results. If both houses don't agree to overturn those results, the votes certified by the state executive are counted.
"but in case there shall arise the question which of two or more of such State authorities determining what electors have been appointed, as mentioned in section 5 of this title, is the lawful tribunal of such State, the votes regularly given of those electors, and those only, of such State shall be counted whose title as electors the two Houses, acting separately, shall concurrently decide is supported by the decision of such State so authorized by its law; and in such case of more than one return or paper purporting to be a return from a State, if there shall have been no such determination of the question in the State aforesaid, then those votes, and those only, shall be counted which the two Houses shall concurrently decide were cast by lawful electors appointed in accordance with the laws of the State, unless the two Houses, acting separately, shall concurrently decide such votes not to be the lawful votes of the legally appointed electors of such State. But if the two Houses shall disagree in respect of the counting of such votes, then, and in that case, the votes of the electors whose appointment shall have been certified by the executive of the State, under the seal thereof, shall be counted."
This is not going our way on the 6th, not via Constitutional means.
Stop spreading this false bs and getting people set up for disappointment. There is no state that has sent 2 sets of electors. This isn't my opinion, this is a fact, you can look at the National Archives: https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020. These are the only electors Pence will recieve in front of him.
Yes, some LARPers showed up at the capitols but unless the Legislature officially appoints them they have no power of law. As of now no legislature has appointed 2 sets of electors.
You are setting unreasonable expectations that are bound to fall.
I will be there, but what do you actually think will be the outcome? How will we change anything?
Big crowd. Ignored outright by MSM. Maybe a few scuffles with antifa. Then at midnight it turns into Jan 7.
I am not arguing against showing up AT ALL. But you’re missing the point: they AREN’T voted in....they partner with the voting tabulation companies and the vote counters who switch ballots via adjudication or fake printed ballots early in the morning.
You’re a tremendous patriot but I could not disagree more on how this will work out.
They don’t care what we do or say or want.
And millions? Maybe pump the breaks.
Have you checked out how easy as hell it is to get a flight right now? And a hotel near NOVA and DC?
Remember when we sold out the rally?
I'm all for showing up in the millions but the problem with this thinking is it implies a march is going to get house democrats to vote for Trump... not happening.
Maybe Pence is going to not count the votes? nothing I've read implies he has the power to do this... if a VP could just not select votes from states that didn't vote for them, I feel like one would have done it by now.
Military isn't going to march into congress and force them to accept Trump votes... they've already said they won't.
I don't even think patriots storming the capitol building are going to yield any results. The proceedings will be halted, and continued at a later date virtually.
exactly
Because 1776
The power of crowds is highly underestimated. You are very correct.
YES SIR! 🇺🇸☝️
tell me why you think house democrats will vote for Trump, so I can stop worrying. They don't give a shit about marches. if things get dicey they'll just retreat, or bunker up and vote later- probably virtually because of muh covid.
No state is sending 2 sets of electors. You've been misinformed. The republican parties in 7 states are sending unofficial 'alternate' electors more or less as a statement of intent in case enough of congress rejects the official votes certified by 50 statehouses (the only votes that matter per US law), but mathematically there's next to no chance of congress rejecting them.
We are out of time to take this election. Revolution or secession are all that's left. I vote secession, as it's the only option without mass civilian casualties, but I know I'm in the minority here. A lot of y'all seem to cherish the idea of getting even with your lib neighbors.
Not quite. State legislatures determine how electors are picked. (This is settled law, no GOP legislature in the country has overturned this process thus far) The State executive branch then certifies and sends counts of those electors' votes to Washington.
Per US Code Chapter 3, Section 6: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/6
It's the duty of the State's executive to acknowledge any contested electoral results. No state has done this.
Same chapter, same section:
The alternate votes were not sent by the state. On the 6th, the certified electoral votes will be counted. Pence will open the floor to objections following each vote.
With approval of one member of each house, an objection can be heard on the floor. Both houses would have to vote to overturn those results. If both houses don't agree to overturn those results, the votes certified by the state executive are counted.
Per US Code Chapter 3, Section 15: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/15
This is not going our way on the 6th, not via Constitutional means.
Stop spreading this false bs and getting people set up for disappointment. There is no state that has sent 2 sets of electors. This isn't my opinion, this is a fact, you can look at the National Archives: https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020. These are the only electors Pence will recieve in front of him.
Yes, some LARPers showed up at the capitols but unless the Legislature officially appoints them they have no power of law. As of now no legislature has appointed 2 sets of electors.
You are setting unreasonable expectations that are bound to fall.
Same way George Washington changed anything.
Maybe uhhh...something happens or something?
"Some people did some things"?