I think Trump should do something sooner. Now we are going on the plank further and further.....i dont know what miracle is hidden at the end of the plank...
Im sure you're already aware, but January 6th the formal electoral count takes place. During which as long as 1 Congressman AND 1 Senator object to a States votes then the Senate and the house must separate to their respective chambers and debate for 2 hours before voting. They both vote whether to accept or reject that state's votes. If BOTH agree then a state can be thrown out. Unfortunately, the House is Dem majority, so it is unlikely both will vote in favor.... then Vice President Pence could be the deciding voter....
With millions of pissed off Patriots on their doorstep, the politicians will think hard about their votes
Good explanation. Thank you. All the more reason for Pence to be fully prepared to do the most important thing anyone has done since Vasily Arkhipov prevented World War III in October 1962.
That's precisely the play in motion, when Pence rules to certify that fraud occurred and chooses alternate electors the ball moves to the other court and they have to disprove evidence of fraud instead of ignoring it. They will spend days crying about it on media. Hope you stocked up on popcorn.
Pence is a god-fearing, common sense patriot and has been since he accepted the VP slot. Some might say before that even. If Pence double crosses us we will face that scenario when it arrives, but until then we have seen no indication, historical or developing, that he may do so. The difficult part is that he can't just just come out and say it, he has to remain impartial at least in appearance or it will taint his dispute if he comes under fire for it (he will). As with all politicians working under partisan warfare, look for subtle cues rather than public statements. Keep in mind he is a reserved fellow, don't expect him to do the same double meaning statements people like Comey and FBI randomly do when things get hot.
And all 3 Supremes nominated by Trump were said to be the same. I trust Pence more than I trust them, but I don’t have on overflowing confidence in him.
Even if he does, believe me, POTUS has an alternate plan. This will show the American public just who Mike Pence really is, which is critical. Remember Pence got an envelope at the funeral of George Bush. Remember all the others at that evend thad did as well. While I would love to know the contents of those letters personally it is enough to know and see who got them. There was a reason for that. I trust The Plan.
Pence should not choose any. Not a Trump elector. Not a Biden elector. Do not act on anything. The whole process was shit.
Legislatures won't act. The courts won't act. No one with the authority to seriously address the issues has at this point despite ample time to do so. Too much of this battle has been fought with one side dictating the rules of engagement.
Who should be deciding? The citizens of the United States of America. Fuck anyone else that thinks it should be decided any other way.
Don't certify a single damn elector. It may have varied how egregious it was but fraud was not limited to certain states. Dispute every fucking elector. Don't let a single one sit back thinking they can ignore the entire process. A confrontation is needed. Force one.
The one thing I will point out that you're correct about is that this only applies to states that are in dispute. This is one of the reasons I've been posting threads warning about a likely constitutional crisis, which worries me more than CW itself.
For Example: I thought Matt Gaetz was a bit of a fair weather friend. Liked to grand stand but was no different to a normal cuckservative. Turns out he’s based for real.
Everyone is showing their hands now. When Trump pulls this off, he knows exactly who is real and who was a phoney. AND he’s got at his fingertips a way to drain the swamp in one go in a way that cannot be undone after his term finishes.
Dems will have the optics fixed by then. They’ll have secret cell “registered GOPs” to be happy little poll watchers applauding Ruby and daughter, everywhere. 2020 is the last election we can see inside, if we lose.
Vote is by state delegation I believe. Unless I failed to grasp your meaning
and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states,the representation from each state having one vote
The house is so shitty, they’d still choose Biden, or they’d protest vote and say, “I wrote in Ronald Regan ‘cause my dad always admired him.” Or some dumb shit like that.
and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states,the representation from each state having one vote
They have to choose from the top three candidates the electors chose, so their choices are Biden and Trump as I don't think any went faithlessly for other candidates this ye
Hey everyone. All the evidence matters. MORE is always better. The reason it isn't "working" is because:
We are being blocked by the legislative AND judicial AND 4th estate AND "big tech/social media" UNPRECEDENTED CENSORSHIP (and the message has still made it out and had HUGE effects on broader populous so far)
We aren't experts on conducting revolutions and outreach because this is all NEW to Americans and uncharted territory. NEW BATTLEFIELD
3)We are being led partially by shills like A. Jones and still infiltrated with grifters who are slowly working their way out of our camp (McConnell & co.) SELFISH/ROGUE ACTORS
CCP is suppressing & actively infiltrating ahead of Jan. 6 and DESTROYING EVIDENCE/CAUSING STRANGE EVENTS (see: Nashville) INFILTRATED/COMPROMISED FROM WITHIN
People are soft, cucked, negative etc. causing division and rifts in our purpose. To achieve our goals we must keep calling keep fighting and NEVER lose hope or SPEAK AGAINST OURSELVES. DEMORALIZATION AND FEARMONGERING
Maybe you aren't armed. Maybe you don't have hope today. Maybe you have to go to work and can't attend on Jan. 6th. Maybe you can't make phone calls. Maybe you can't spread the word. Maybe your family doesn't agree.
BUT THE DOOM AND GLOOM IS NOT HELPING SO PLEASE STOP. ALL THE IN-FIGHTING AND NEGATIVITY DOES IS HELP THE OTHER SIDE WIN. WE KNOW WE HAVE TAKEN LOSSES. WE KNOW IT IS BEING CALLED A LONG SHOT. WE KNOW THERE IS LARP'ING.
PLEASE, STOP CALLING IT OUT CONSTANTLY. IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU SOME FUCKING GENIUS, OK? RULE 1: HIGH ENERGY TRUMP RALLY. NO EXCEPTIONS. WE NEED TO KEEP IT UP MORE THAN EVER. STOP THE GODDAMN DOOM, GO TO TUCKER.WIN AND DO IT THERE OR SOMETHING.
For whatever reason, I've been seeing some videos, posts, tweets etc. focusing on A. Jones being a deep-state shill. Of course the rumblings and talk of that has been around for quite a while. Others in the "conspiracy community" if you will, have called him out (you may know who I am referring to mostly ;) ) but personally I am not sure if he is 100% an actor working for them, or just misguided. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind him - and he has had an INSANE track record of correct predictions in the last year or two - but I just am not sure he is the right person to be one of the "leaders" of the rallies and speaking and so on. He is easily trashed by the mainstream and he isn't, well, stable enough. It worries me that his die-hard base may make us look foolish at some point... moreso than already...
I don't want to shit talk too much. I like the guy - as entertainment. We need serious leaders, however. His relationship with Rogan is troubling. I gave up on Joe completely a few months ago. After the whole debate "suggestion" and Spotify nonsense, Rogan mentioned he'd be excited to do an episode with Trump. I had hoped it would happen - only for the exposure it might give Trump - and the influence it might have over a certain segment of folks. The episode with Alex before the election was pretty weird. The election episode with Kulinski (puke!) was absolutely awful shit and nonsense.
A few days after Nov 3, Rogan said he thought the calm of Biden (or some horse shit) was "a good thing" and "the world needs [Biden] right now". I left it there. Too cucked to talk about election fraud too. Makes fucking Tim Poole seem "edgy" now. And brought on Chappelle finally, who has completely turned and works for the deep state now sadly. Fucking pathetic. I've left so many former podcasts and shows behind since the election to be honest. The whole thing has really shown me trust is hard won and easily destroyed. I bet a lot of the audiences have done the same as me. Anyway, sorry for rambling!
Hey, thanks for the detailed and thoughtful response!
I am still definitely on the fence about whether AJ is some measure of controlled opposition or not and that recent falling out w/David Knight got me thinking of it again, and that recent encounter with Flynn got me thinking as well. I think if he's managed carefully at these bigger events we can avoid any "poisoning the well" gaffes.
I try to see the other side, too, like, what if it was me trying to expose all that stuff while FBI, Antifa etc are stalking and harassing me. And it takes a certain level of ego and machismo to maintain all that and he's been right about most things.
As for Joe Rogan, I do BJJ and have been a long-time MMA fan since back in the Royce days so Joe is kind of a comfy media fixture but I only catch his bigger guests now after he went all irrational and abusive when he had Candace Owens on. That was seriously not cool and the only reason I could think of was that he had talking points. I'm of the opinion now that most people only get famous and wealthy like that at blackmail-level expense. I try not to get too blackpilled also since not everything is a conspiracy and I just try to stick with the facts when I talk to others.
And yep, the election has been a crucible for me, too - obviously ignore Fox News and anyone (incl. David Knight, sadly) that's not for Trump I just don't have time for. This is not the time for dissension and Trump is our best chance to unify as many people as possible against, well, evil.
You said it matters, then explained why it doesn't matter. Are they, beyond any reasonable doubt, trying to steal the presidency? Yes. That's all that matters. We've seen enough evidence. Nobody who hasn't realized the fraud by now is ever going to realize it until action is taken.
Practically the only people I see losing hope for anything here are people losing hope for a peaceful, legal resolution. We need to NOT keep clinging to strategies that clearly don't seem to be working. And we need to NOT stop speaking against ourselves, because that's part of how we keep our heads on straight and make sure we have the best ideas instead of creating a single deluded fantasy and repeating it forever.
It's the internet, calling people faggots and shills and retards is just part of the discourse.
I agree with most of what you said. But if they can do that, am I not within my rights to call it out? I want positive, and PRO TRUMP! We are building a 'preponderance of evidence', for example the Navarro report went through a lot of what we here at TDW have already seen, however it carried through to a MAINSTREAM audience better than many analyses had before it, including Matt Braynard's excellent work. Hope John Lott's work will do the same, as Rudy will be discussing it today during the hearing.
All of it helps! So why throw shade on it? Its not a grift or "Q" related, so I don't get the "concern trolling" being done so actively. Infiltration is always a worry, case in point check out Trump and what GOP did. Same goes for our community, no? I do agree with you, we SHOULD call out those solutions and avenues which ARE NOT GOING TO WORK - as you mentioned, the courts, the DOJ/FBI, etc. But you can do that without the pure hatred and vitriol we've been seeing I think. Maybe you disagree, I see your side of it really I do. But let me share a little anecdote with you:
A few days ago I commented on a post that read in the title "Upvote if you think... blah blah... DONLAD TRUMP will be in 2nd term 100% and love it!" Now, its obviously a fishing expedition for points, and he didn't correct an obvious & important mis spell. So I made a comment sarcastically like "I Luv donlad & i haev a MEGA hat". A couple pedes downvoted me and called me a troll, and then I was perma-banned. O_O
The mods who are good people & I respect them undid it, but whoever did the ban refered me to Rule 1 ... and they were right tbh. They want HIGH ENERGY nothing else should be tolerated. I was having innocent fun making spelling jokes, but how does this show my enthusiasm for Trump? It doesn't so it doesn't belong here and is a waste of time. I'm glad that they undid it, but I learned a lesson. Keep the positivity UP UP UP! At all times! This community to a big degree REPRESENTS OUR POTUS & THE MOVEMENT HE BUILT! We should conduct ourselves like it! Christ, you've got Bannon and others EVEN ON FAUX discussing this site, you've got Trump using charts first dropped here in his addresses to the nation!
So I'm not going to fuck around.I want us to WIN WIN WIN and I want everyone to know, every time I write in, that I am 100% for Trump and AGAINST THE CRIMINALS who want to destroy him & all of us! I use my real name because I am not afraid to put myself out there and fight for what is right! This is a cause unlike any other I have ever taken up, I feel it is extremely vital and will help change our country and even our world for the better!!! I am proud to support TDW and everything else MAGA.
Sorry this got off topic and went so long. I hope you can see where I'm coming from. Regardless, we're both going to KEEP FIGHTING!
Best to you.
When did Alex Jones become a shill? If anything he's too concerned with non-political affairs, but he never got in the fight to be a conservative pundit.
Its getting harder not to these days. I don't blame people. What's going to happen on Jan 6th that will be so Earth shattering? Is Pence going to make a historic move? Everything we've been hoping on is "it needs to be a historic move to win". I pray and hope for a solution, but everything so far has failed miserably. I think the time is drawing closer for real Americans to make their own history. I hope Trump has an ace up his sleeves..
Those that doom and gloom cannot lead and should not be listened to. If for fucks sake they can't keep their fucking mouth shut instead of trying to bring everyone else down, they are working for the enemy's goals.
"better sit down" I didn't say sit down. Absolutely not. Stand up and use your voice!
"trust sessions trust barr and trust Q" I didn't say any of that. I don't "trust" any supposed or theoretical "plan." Trusting that there's a "plan" would make us lazy and complacent.
I meant don't show your ass by being negative and hopeless. Don't fight your own side!
Here's a question: If WE had WON, and did it by fraud and lies, would you CALL OUR SIDE OUT? Would you DENY IT or be HONEST? If you're HONESTLY this hopeless, maybe the best solution would be to just not say anything? Look at the Dems: do you see any of them saying "We have to admit it! We cheated! Cannot tell a lie!" Learn from your opponent.
I don't see why this is something controversial to say. :\
Ok so here is my take on what needs to be done: We get these drops every few days saying “X number of fraudulent votes, X number of votes were switched from Trump to Biden, X number of votes came in after Election Day and were counted unconstitutionally, etc.”. GEOTUS and his staff need to finalize a vote total for AZ, NV, WI, MI, PA, GA based off of percentages on midnight 11/3 or if you need to throw out votes use the mail in ballot percentages so Biden loses more of the batch. They need to make a declaration stating this is the final vote count by our records, we have brought these numbers to court and no one will hear our case. Based off these numbers we won X number of states and thus won the election by X number electoral vote totals. Basically a concrete, objective statement needs to be made putting out a final vote total when fraud is thrown out. Finalize it by saying until a court looks at our totals here and disproves it we won by this amount and these is final. Until we have something like that no normies will care or pay attention when president Trump just says “we won”. Give them a counter to the MSM and these states’ “official” final numbers. I’ve been thinking this for a few weeks and maybe didn’t articulate it well but something else needs to be done IMO.
V. Conclusion
The precinct level estimates for Georgia and Pennsylvania indicate that vote fraud may account for Biden’s win in both states. The voter turnout rate data also indicates that there are significant excess votes in Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, and Wisconsin as well. While the problems shown here are large, there are two reasons to believe that they are underestimates: 1) the estimates using precinct level data assume that there is no fraud occurring with in- person voting and 2) the voter turnout estimates do not account for ballots for the opposing candidate that are lost, destroyed, or replaced with ballots filled out for the other candidate
Throw it all away. Trump needs to be king or Emperor. When he dies we can figure out another way. Although Don Jr would be the next best thing.
I honestly don't think we can "fix" this. Congress was supposed to be a check on the president's power. They are corrupt as fuck. Every one of them needs to go. We will not have fair elections ever after this travesty. Next best thing is Donald the First. Hell, that wouldn't be "next best" it would be better. The only way to fix this is all out civil war and we kill them all. Then close our borders and the rest of the world can go fuck themselves or they're next. I am past the point of no return.
There is a chance of flipping Georgia and Pennsylvania.
But we need three states.
Michigan is fucking hopeless. Arizona RINO Legislature says it was a clean Election... Forget about Wisconsin. Wisconsin is run by some of the biggest white liberal cucks in the country. Wisconsin Judges are batshit.
Dr. Peter Navarro fully endorsed this. Said this is the “river card” and President Trump has a royal flush. Lott is irrefutable here. Different method, different investigators from Navarro’s “immaculate deception” report, but show the same same result.
That’s the ultimate in scientific confirmation.
I read somewhere that the print-out you put into the machines after you vote is, legally, your property... Is that true?
Also (and this is so fucking frustrating) I've been trying to find out if it's illegal to take a picture of that print out after I voted, but ALL the articles that I have read ONLY talk about the legalities for taking selfies with your ballot and/or posting it online. I just want it for my own PERSONAL records, not for anyone else but me... I live in Georgia and I'm EXTREAMLY conflicted on weather or not I'm going to vote because I know that their (well, last time I heard) going to use the same damn machines as last time and I DO not want to support a voting system that does not, AT LEAST, TRY to be secure because that is laterally supporting tyranny, in my book.
*Warning: Below is a (seemingly) deranged rant... But tis not one doe. It IS a rant, yes, but it is a very logical rant that is based on facts, reason and logic with a hard comedic spin that might offend fee-fees... Continue with caution, wait, neverminded, I don't give a fuck what you do, you have agency, do whatever you want, I'm not you fucking daddy... Weirdo. (lol, sorry, I just couldn't resist)
Anyway... so I wanted to respond with "lol", but I'm too depressed, frustrated and angry to, due to what is happening and what's about to REALLY funkin' happen, SOON (HINT: It's, it's-uh... Fucking communism, if your not sure... We will turn into an authoritarian communistic dictatorship within, AT LEAST 4 to 8 years from now, BUT only if WE, THE PEOPLE, KEEP DOING ABSOLUTLY FUCKING NOTHING except waiting for OPTHER PEOPLE we DON'T even know ACTUALLY EXIST , to save us instead of RELYING ON OURSELVES [Cough cough "Q"Is100%BullShitThatWasSPECIFICALLYMadeToMakeTheAmericanPeopleSitOnTheirAssesAndDONOTHINGByConvincingThemToTrustANONEXISTENTPLAN Cough Cough HastagChangeMyMind Cough Cough]
. I will bet you money on that) to give you that response, plus it wouldn't be authentic (which is just a fancy way of saying "Plus it would be a g*d-damn, degusting lie [and that's what dirty commies and the corrupt and willfully ignorant democrats and republicans do]) and I don't fuck with that shit, well, unless you're my fine-ass girlfriend and you ask me if whatever the hell you're warning makes your ass look fat... Then, at that point in time, all I'm doing Is avoiding getting into a fight with you b/c, Honestly girl, your ass always be lookin' fat, sorry "PHAT" and you are a woman witch make you crazy by default... Hey, don't get mad at me, God's the one who was all, like "huhhuhhhuhh, you know what'd be funny, what if a made another type of Floorman that, in regards to the new project I'm working on called "Flobopmans" (GODEDIT-#1: Think of a better name for "Flobopmans"/"Flobopmankind") would make this next creation much more fun and entertaining to watch (those stupid dinosaurs were sooo boring! It a good thing I buried them all deep underground so the flobopmens will never find out about them, b/c I'm sure as hell am not gonna tell them about that embarrassing mistake in the book I give them later, lol) was hot ass fucking shit, could literally create life, created it so that man was sexually attracted to them and also created it so that in order for the species to reproduce and survive the HAD to not only have sex, but also fall in luptopove with each other and stay together for, like, their whole lives (GODEDIT-#2 Think of a better name for "luptopove"), but the twist here is this new Flobopman I create is the same, but also completely fucking different form the other Flobopman AND almost imposable to understand what these new Flobopmans really mean when they tell their significant other Flobopman "it's cold" or "I'm not mad" or "what is that supposed to mean" "how come you never text from work, just to tell me that you're thinking of me? Do you never think of me?!" or "Who's Felisha, babe?" ...Yeah, lol, that would be hilarious"
Wait, Where am I? What was I talking about-OH YEAH... I remember now.
...Oh, and I feel fucking helpless, like there is NOTHING I can do to help what's happening right in front of my (and everyone else's) eyes, not only in the my home state, a state that I have lived in, literally, my entire life, but in this country that I love and see rotting away exponentially faster everyday... Is there a plan for when Peace, ENEVITABLY, betrays trump (He is part of the swamp after all... I think he's just playing Trump and the American people to make them think he has priceable and isn't just as corrupt as that rest of them... you DO NOT become a well established and respected career politician by your peers in congress from being uncorrupted as well as believing in things like "America first" and the constitution (How much do you know about Pence's political history?).
courts, politicians and media ignore every piece of evidence...do they really think people will just shrug their shoulders and move on with life under lockdown ?? Do they really think the military will be on their side ? something is wrong here.
MORE impotently... What are We, the people, going to ACTUALLY do when pence INEVITABLY betrays Trump and declares Biden the president? Jan the 6th... Are there ANY plans of action for when that happens or are we all just going to yell "rabble-rabble-rabble" for a few hours and then go home. If that is case, WHY GO AT ALL? WHY STAND UP FOR ANYTHING YOU BELIEVE IN if, when the moment comes down to either do something or LICKING THE BOOT of tyranny... you stick out you weak beta tongue as you get in your car and go the fuck back where you are told... I don't want to do that, AT ALL, But I see ZERO ORGANIZED PLAN OF ATION THAT WE, THE PEOPLE THE MASSES, have made... If I am wrong (And please GOD, I hope I am) them tell me how I can help in this plan (and no not that "trust the plan" horseshit/psy-op that was made to keep Americans from getting up and doing what we should have been doing for decades upon decades... Which is HOLD OUR FUCKING GOVERNMNET ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS!! We don't do that anymore. This is PRECISLY the reason why things have gotten THIS bad). A government can ONLY be as tyrannical as IT CITIZENS allow... Why do you keep allowing all of this to happen?
So what's going to be done about it? A podcast? cool, that doesn't get anything done. Hell lin wood himself has spent more time pedaling his podcast than building strong cases. Constantly tweeting of stuff unrelated to the election that he has proof of, but never showing proof. Trump needed a different team of lawyers for this, it was too important
All of this evidence means nothing if a court or legislature won’t do anything.
War is the only outcome if they don't fix this mess.
Trump Won Bigly.
Dems Cheated.
Jan. 6th - We Fix It
Show up outside congress on the 6th to be part of it.
Hug 'em all.
Wasn’t that a Metallica album?
I think Trump should do something sooner. Now we are going on the plank further and further.....i dont know what miracle is hidden at the end of the plank...
R2 has a lightsaber for us.
Im sure you're already aware, but January 6th the formal electoral count takes place. During which as long as 1 Congressman AND 1 Senator object to a States votes then the Senate and the house must separate to their respective chambers and debate for 2 hours before voting. They both vote whether to accept or reject that state's votes. If BOTH agree then a state can be thrown out. Unfortunately, the House is Dem majority, so it is unlikely both will vote in favor.... then Vice President Pence could be the deciding voter....
With millions of pissed off Patriots on their doorstep, the politicians will think hard about their votes
Good explanation. Thank you. All the more reason for Pence to be fully prepared to do the most important thing anyone has done since Vasily Arkhipov prevented World War III in October 1962.
It’s linked in the tweet and also always check for the (context) button next to an OPs name for info about posts.
Navarro has been updating his report with all of this evidence so I'd imagine it gets into it coming up.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3756988
Good read! Thanks for sharing.
It's literally linked in the Tweet.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3756988
The courts are continually proving that they are not going to have an untimely suicide by the chicom mafia by doing their jobs.
👍
war has already started just everyone doesnt see it yet...
Only if you organize it.
That's precisely the play in motion, when Pence rules to certify that fraud occurred and chooses alternate electors the ball moves to the other court and they have to disprove evidence of fraud instead of ignoring it. They will spend days crying about it on media. Hope you stocked up on popcorn.
I believe this is the right play. Shift the burden of proof, force them to confront the evidence, and show conclusively that they are wrong.
Pence is a god-fearing, common sense patriot and has been since he accepted the VP slot. Some might say before that even. If Pence double crosses us we will face that scenario when it arrives, but until then we have seen no indication, historical or developing, that he may do so. The difficult part is that he can't just just come out and say it, he has to remain impartial at least in appearance or it will taint his dispute if he comes under fire for it (he will). As with all politicians working under partisan warfare, look for subtle cues rather than public statements. Keep in mind he is a reserved fellow, don't expect him to do the same double meaning statements people like Comey and FBI randomly do when things get hot.
And all 3 Supremes nominated by Trump were said to be the same. I trust Pence more than I trust them, but I don’t have on overflowing confidence in him.
Sadly, this was my same thought. Pence, I unfortunately think, will end up stabbing Trump in the back.
Even if he does, believe me, POTUS has an alternate plan. This will show the American public just who Mike Pence really is, which is critical. Remember Pence got an envelope at the funeral of George Bush. Remember all the others at that evend thad did as well. While I would love to know the contents of those letters personally it is enough to know and see who got them. There was a reason for that. I trust The Plan.
But we don't know what was in it. It might have said "Good job, Mike! Keep an eye on those RINO bastards in the row ahead of you!"
We just don't have enough information.
Yeah - "good job Mike". Thats likely.
I thought only Jeb got one. Who else got one?
Pence should not choose any. Not a Trump elector. Not a Biden elector. Do not act on anything. The whole process was shit.
Legislatures won't act. The courts won't act. No one with the authority to seriously address the issues has at this point despite ample time to do so. Too much of this battle has been fought with one side dictating the rules of engagement.
Who should be deciding? The citizens of the United States of America. Fuck anyone else that thinks it should be decided any other way.
Don't certify a single damn elector. It may have varied how egregious it was but fraud was not limited to certain states. Dispute every fucking elector. Don't let a single one sit back thinking they can ignore the entire process. A confrontation is needed. Force one.
It seems to have precedent
Um, that's exactly what's gonna happen. It might be more formal and litigated than that in session, but that's the gist of it. See article:
https://archive.is/rI4FD
The one thing I will point out that you're correct about is that this only applies to states that are in dispute. This is one of the reasons I've been posting threads warning about a likely constitutional crisis, which worries me more than CW itself.
The school system has failed so many people.
The court has always been public opinion. 100 million Patriots are now judges and jury.
Not when the court is compromised or bought.
The idea is to bypass the corrupt, activist court system altogether. Copy?
Yeh, you’re right, I got it after I’d commented.
This is for HISTORY after the smoke settles
Your sentence is as dismissive as they are being.
This is relevant mathematical proof as well and it needs to reach the right eyes of non-doomers.
https://thedonald.win/p/11RO2ilXD6/polynomic-sledgehammer-live-simu/
Nothing matters anymore except 1/6/2021
And then it will be "Nothing matters anymore except 1/20/2021."
i absolutely hate that it has come down to this.
Change your perspective. You should be rejoicing that it has.
What if Trump had pulled off the win? All the fraud still happened. It must be addressed. Be thankful that we've been blessed with this opportunity.
We now know who we can trust and who we can’t.
For Example: I thought Matt Gaetz was a bit of a fair weather friend. Liked to grand stand but was no different to a normal cuckservative. Turns out he’s based for real.
Everyone is showing their hands now. When Trump pulls this off, he knows exactly who is real and who was a phoney. AND he’s got at his fingertips a way to drain the swamp in one go in a way that cannot be undone after his term finishes.
https://youtu.be/dTYOkcRH220
And then 8/8/2022
That's 2 weeks from August 24th.
That's the first two weeks in Auguest
It’s the midterm elections
Dims will just cheat again. And more effectively since they have the POTUS powers by then. LMAO
Dems will have the optics fixed by then. They’ll have secret cell “registered GOPs” to be happy little poll watchers applauding Ruby and daughter, everywhere. 2020 is the last election we can see inside, if we lose.
I'll take that outcome, would mean that no one got 270 on 1/6/2021.
Vote is by state delegation I believe. Unless I failed to grasp your meaning
The house is so shitty, they’d still choose Biden, or they’d protest vote and say, “I wrote in Ronald Regan ‘cause my dad always admired him.” Or some dumb shit like that.
They have to choose from the top three candidates the electors chose, so their choices are Biden and Trump as I don't think any went faithlessly for other candidates this ye
ar, though they can just not vote I suppose.
Sad
Oh look. More evidence with no action to correct the situation. We have one week.
"So what?" -Democrats
“No evidence of widespread fraud” -Democrats
"Nine people isn't really enough for a great party"
They put "voter fraud" in quotes now, as if it's all imagined.
How many times do we have to see this before we literally go to their houses and round then up for crimes against the people?
https://fablesofaesop.com/belling-the-cat.html
What are you waiting for?
GA. is about to have a totally legit 600% turnout
Psssh. Amateur numbers. PA was pushing 1000%.
GA lacks enthusiasm.
Hey everyone. All the evidence matters. MORE is always better. The reason it isn't "working" is because:
Maybe you aren't armed. Maybe you don't have hope today. Maybe you have to go to work and can't attend on Jan. 6th. Maybe you can't make phone calls. Maybe you can't spread the word. Maybe your family doesn't agree.
BUT THE DOOM AND GLOOM IS NOT HELPING SO PLEASE STOP. ALL THE IN-FIGHTING AND NEGATIVITY DOES IS HELP THE OTHER SIDE WIN. WE KNOW WE HAVE TAKEN LOSSES. WE KNOW IT IS BEING CALLED A LONG SHOT. WE KNOW THERE IS LARP'ING.
PLEASE, STOP CALLING IT OUT CONSTANTLY. IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU SOME FUCKING GENIUS, OK? RULE 1: HIGH ENERGY TRUMP RALLY. NO EXCEPTIONS. WE NEED TO KEEP IT UP MORE THAN EVER. STOP THE GODDAMN DOOM, GO TO TUCKER.WIN AND DO IT THERE OR SOMETHING.
Sorry, just getting tired of it.
MAGA
You think A. Jones is a shill? I've suspected this for a while but it's kind of weird to see this popup in a thedonald.win thread.
For whatever reason, I've been seeing some videos, posts, tweets etc. focusing on A. Jones being a deep-state shill. Of course the rumblings and talk of that has been around for quite a while. Others in the "conspiracy community" if you will, have called him out (you may know who I am referring to mostly ;) ) but personally I am not sure if he is 100% an actor working for them, or just misguided. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind him - and he has had an INSANE track record of correct predictions in the last year or two - but I just am not sure he is the right person to be one of the "leaders" of the rallies and speaking and so on. He is easily trashed by the mainstream and he isn't, well, stable enough. It worries me that his die-hard base may make us look foolish at some point... moreso than already...
I don't want to shit talk too much. I like the guy - as entertainment. We need serious leaders, however. His relationship with Rogan is troubling. I gave up on Joe completely a few months ago. After the whole debate "suggestion" and Spotify nonsense, Rogan mentioned he'd be excited to do an episode with Trump. I had hoped it would happen - only for the exposure it might give Trump - and the influence it might have over a certain segment of folks. The episode with Alex before the election was pretty weird. The election episode with Kulinski (puke!) was absolutely awful shit and nonsense.
A few days after Nov 3, Rogan said he thought the calm of Biden (or some horse shit) was "a good thing" and "the world needs [Biden] right now". I left it there. Too cucked to talk about election fraud too. Makes fucking Tim Poole seem "edgy" now. And brought on Chappelle finally, who has completely turned and works for the deep state now sadly. Fucking pathetic. I've left so many former podcasts and shows behind since the election to be honest. The whole thing has really shown me trust is hard won and easily destroyed. I bet a lot of the audiences have done the same as me. Anyway, sorry for rambling!
Hey, thanks for the detailed and thoughtful response!
I am still definitely on the fence about whether AJ is some measure of controlled opposition or not and that recent falling out w/David Knight got me thinking of it again, and that recent encounter with Flynn got me thinking as well. I think if he's managed carefully at these bigger events we can avoid any "poisoning the well" gaffes.
I try to see the other side, too, like, what if it was me trying to expose all that stuff while FBI, Antifa etc are stalking and harassing me. And it takes a certain level of ego and machismo to maintain all that and he's been right about most things.
As for Joe Rogan, I do BJJ and have been a long-time MMA fan since back in the Royce days so Joe is kind of a comfy media fixture but I only catch his bigger guests now after he went all irrational and abusive when he had Candace Owens on. That was seriously not cool and the only reason I could think of was that he had talking points. I'm of the opinion now that most people only get famous and wealthy like that at blackmail-level expense. I try not to get too blackpilled also since not everything is a conspiracy and I just try to stick with the facts when I talk to others.
And yep, the election has been a crucible for me, too - obviously ignore Fox News and anyone (incl. David Knight, sadly) that's not for Trump I just don't have time for. This is not the time for dissension and Trump is our best chance to unify as many people as possible against, well, evil.
You said it matters, then explained why it doesn't matter. Are they, beyond any reasonable doubt, trying to steal the presidency? Yes. That's all that matters. We've seen enough evidence. Nobody who hasn't realized the fraud by now is ever going to realize it until action is taken.
Practically the only people I see losing hope for anything here are people losing hope for a peaceful, legal resolution. We need to NOT keep clinging to strategies that clearly don't seem to be working. And we need to NOT stop speaking against ourselves, because that's part of how we keep our heads on straight and make sure we have the best ideas instead of creating a single deluded fantasy and repeating it forever.
It's the internet, calling people faggots and shills and retards is just part of the discourse.
I agree with most of what you said. But if they can do that, am I not within my rights to call it out? I want positive, and PRO TRUMP! We are building a 'preponderance of evidence', for example the Navarro report went through a lot of what we here at TDW have already seen, however it carried through to a MAINSTREAM audience better than many analyses had before it, including Matt Braynard's excellent work. Hope John Lott's work will do the same, as Rudy will be discussing it today during the hearing.
All of it helps! So why throw shade on it? Its not a grift or "Q" related, so I don't get the "concern trolling" being done so actively. Infiltration is always a worry, case in point check out Trump and what GOP did. Same goes for our community, no? I do agree with you, we SHOULD call out those solutions and avenues which ARE NOT GOING TO WORK - as you mentioned, the courts, the DOJ/FBI, etc. But you can do that without the pure hatred and vitriol we've been seeing I think. Maybe you disagree, I see your side of it really I do. But let me share a little anecdote with you:
A few days ago I commented on a post that read in the title "Upvote if you think... blah blah... DONLAD TRUMP will be in 2nd term 100% and love it!" Now, its obviously a fishing expedition for points, and he didn't correct an obvious & important mis spell. So I made a comment sarcastically like "I Luv donlad & i haev a MEGA hat". A couple pedes downvoted me and called me a troll, and then I was perma-banned. O_O The mods who are good people & I respect them undid it, but whoever did the ban refered me to Rule 1 ... and they were right tbh. They want HIGH ENERGY nothing else should be tolerated. I was having innocent fun making spelling jokes, but how does this show my enthusiasm for Trump? It doesn't so it doesn't belong here and is a waste of time. I'm glad that they undid it, but I learned a lesson. Keep the positivity UP UP UP! At all times! This community to a big degree REPRESENTS OUR POTUS & THE MOVEMENT HE BUILT! We should conduct ourselves like it! Christ, you've got Bannon and others EVEN ON FAUX discussing this site, you've got Trump using charts first dropped here in his addresses to the nation!
So I'm not going to fuck around.I want us to WIN WIN WIN and I want everyone to know, every time I write in, that I am 100% for Trump and AGAINST THE CRIMINALS who want to destroy him & all of us! I use my real name because I am not afraid to put myself out there and fight for what is right! This is a cause unlike any other I have ever taken up, I feel it is extremely vital and will help change our country and even our world for the better!!! I am proud to support TDW and everything else MAGA.
Sorry this got off topic and went so long. I hope you can see where I'm coming from. Regardless, we're both going to KEEP FIGHTING! Best to you.
When did Alex Jones become a shill? If anything he's too concerned with non-political affairs, but he never got in the fight to be a conservative pundit.
"dooming" is the new "concern trolling"
Of all the things missing from the old r/thedonald, the rule against concern trolling is the one I miss the most.
Good, next you need to flip California.
OH WOW ! THINGS ARE SURE TO TURN AROUND NOW !!
/s
If Biden himself was on video printing ballots, media wouldn't cover it, and it still wouldn't be overturned.
Maybe if everyone in our camp stopped doom and gloom so much it would be overturned.
Its getting harder not to these days. I don't blame people. What's going to happen on Jan 6th that will be so Earth shattering? Is Pence going to make a historic move? Everything we've been hoping on is "it needs to be a historic move to win". I pray and hope for a solution, but everything so far has failed miserably. I think the time is drawing closer for real Americans to make their own history. I hope Trump has an ace up his sleeves..
Those that doom and gloom cannot lead and should not be listened to. If for fucks sake they can't keep their fucking mouth shut instead of trying to bring everyone else down, they are working for the enemy's goals.
Lead what?
"better sit down" I didn't say sit down. Absolutely not. Stand up and use your voice!
"trust sessions trust barr and trust Q" I didn't say any of that. I don't "trust" any supposed or theoretical "plan." Trusting that there's a "plan" would make us lazy and complacent.
I meant don't show your ass by being negative and hopeless. Don't fight your own side!
Here's a question: If WE had WON, and did it by fraud and lies, would you CALL OUR SIDE OUT? Would you DENY IT or be HONEST? If you're HONESTLY this hopeless, maybe the best solution would be to just not say anything? Look at the Dems: do you see any of them saying "We have to admit it! We cheated! Cannot tell a lie!" Learn from your opponent.
I don't see why this is something controversial to say. :\
You have the right attitude, Dominic.
PDF OF REPORT
Ok so here is my take on what needs to be done: We get these drops every few days saying “X number of fraudulent votes, X number of votes were switched from Trump to Biden, X number of votes came in after Election Day and were counted unconstitutionally, etc.”. GEOTUS and his staff need to finalize a vote total for AZ, NV, WI, MI, PA, GA based off of percentages on midnight 11/3 or if you need to throw out votes use the mail in ballot percentages so Biden loses more of the batch. They need to make a declaration stating this is the final vote count by our records, we have brought these numbers to court and no one will hear our case. Based off these numbers we won X number of states and thus won the election by X number electoral vote totals. Basically a concrete, objective statement needs to be made putting out a final vote total when fraud is thrown out. Finalize it by saying until a court looks at our totals here and disproves it we won by this amount and these is final. Until we have something like that no normies will care or pay attention when president Trump just says “we won”. Give them a counter to the MSM and these states’ “official” final numbers. I’ve been thinking this for a few weeks and maybe didn’t articulate it well but something else needs to be done IMO.
And last Monday. And the Monday before that. And the Monday before that.
Where have I heard that before?
Q has nearly a 100% track record of being wrong. You are being played.
Bobby Pitton right?
Yes sir. https://twitter.com/BobbyPiton3/status/1343731176125718534
Wow another Q enthusiast has a gut feeling
Yeah wtf is this clown shit. After the 6th if we don’t pull off a miracle this place needs to have a hard discussion about pay back.
"I have a feeling"
For fuck's sake.
Woah!! GEORGIA FLIPPING JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
Woah! Deez nuts just flew over your face!
PA flipped yesterday?
Soooooo Arizona? I guess we still will see PA today if we trust the plan hard enough
Don't spend that 5 cents all in one place buddy!
Lmao we have plenty of evidence already, this is good but at this point it doesn’t mean anything if courts just dismiss it anyway
Yawn, war.
TTD 😁👍
This is how elections are won and lost in places like Africa.
This is fucking ridiculous. Send in the military. Do tribunals. I don't even know what tribunals are, but I know I want them.
Same
V. Conclusion The precinct level estimates for Georgia and Pennsylvania indicate that vote fraud may account for Biden’s win in both states. The voter turnout rate data also indicates that there are significant excess votes in Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, and Wisconsin as well. While the problems shown here are large, there are two reasons to believe that they are underestimates: 1) the estimates using precinct level data assume that there is no fraud occurring with in- person voting and 2) the voter turnout estimates do not account for ballots for the opposing candidate that are lost, destroyed, or replaced with ballots filled out for the other candidate
Throw it all away. Trump needs to be king or Emperor. When he dies we can figure out another way. Although Don Jr would be the next best thing.
I honestly don't think we can "fix" this. Congress was supposed to be a check on the president's power. They are corrupt as fuck. Every one of them needs to go. We will not have fair elections ever after this travesty. Next best thing is Donald the First. Hell, that wouldn't be "next best" it would be better. The only way to fix this is all out civil war and we kill them all. Then close our borders and the rest of the world can go fuck themselves or they're next. I am past the point of no return.
CROSS THE FUCKING RUBICON PRESIDENT TRUMP
I think we're done already.
Wether the courts, that are meant to uphold the laws, stand the fuck up or we will. If we have to do it ourselves, God help the tree of liberty.
80% of Biden’s “lead” is covered by what this study found in this single GA county. 80%, in one county.
Just do the forensics and recount/analysis of LEGAL votes.
Someone tell me what the counter argument is to these findings? All I see is "disputed". HOW is it disputed??
Peter Navarro is my jam. He's good people.
There is a chance of flipping Georgia and Pennsylvania.
But we need three states.
Michigan is fucking hopeless. Arizona RINO Legislature says it was a clean Election... Forget about Wisconsin. Wisconsin is run by some of the biggest white liberal cucks in the country. Wisconsin Judges are batshit.
Surely The Founders had the foresight to know that Courts and State Legislatures could turn corrupt.
We have reached the end of the road with Courts and State Legislatures.
The Founders have wisely given Trump the authority to declare the election FRAUDULENT and hold new Elections.
Trump needs to stop the fucking tweeting and start acting like a POTUS.
Dr. Peter Navarro fully endorsed this. Said this is the “river card” and President Trump has a royal flush. Lott is irrefutable here. Different method, different investigators from Navarro’s “immaculate deception” report, but show the same same result. That’s the ultimate in scientific confirmation.
What are we supposed to do with all of these fraud votes if no one is willing to do anything about it
I read somewhere that the print-out you put into the machines after you vote is, legally, your property... Is that true?
Also (and this is so fucking frustrating) I've been trying to find out if it's illegal to take a picture of that print out after I voted, but ALL the articles that I have read ONLY talk about the legalities for taking selfies with your ballot and/or posting it online. I just want it for my own PERSONAL records, not for anyone else but me... I live in Georgia and I'm EXTREAMLY conflicted on weather or not I'm going to vote because I know that their (well, last time I heard) going to use the same damn machines as last time and I DO not want to support a voting system that does not, AT LEAST, TRY to be secure because that is laterally supporting tyranny, in my book.
*Warning: Below is a (seemingly) deranged rant... But tis not one doe. It IS a rant, yes, but it is a very logical rant that is based on facts, reason and logic with a hard comedic spin that might offend fee-fees... Continue with caution, wait, neverminded, I don't give a fuck what you do, you have agency, do whatever you want, I'm not you fucking daddy... Weirdo. (lol, sorry, I just couldn't resist)
Anyway... so I wanted to respond with "lol", but I'm too depressed, frustrated and angry to, due to what is happening and what's about to REALLY funkin' happen, SOON (HINT: It's, it's-uh... Fucking communism, if your not sure... We will turn into an authoritarian communistic dictatorship within, AT LEAST 4 to 8 years from now, BUT only if WE, THE PEOPLE, KEEP DOING ABSOLUTLY FUCKING NOTHING except waiting for OPTHER PEOPLE we DON'T even know ACTUALLY EXIST , to save us instead of RELYING ON OURSELVES [Cough cough "Q"Is100%BullShitThatWasSPECIFICALLYMadeToMakeTheAmericanPeopleSitOnTheirAssesAndDONOTHINGByConvincingThemToTrustANONEXISTENTPLAN Cough Cough HastagChangeMyMind Cough Cough] . I will bet you money on that) to give you that response, plus it wouldn't be authentic (which is just a fancy way of saying "Plus it would be a g*d-damn, degusting lie [and that's what dirty commies and the corrupt and willfully ignorant democrats and republicans do]) and I don't fuck with that shit, well, unless you're my fine-ass girlfriend and you ask me if whatever the hell you're warning makes your ass look fat... Then, at that point in time, all I'm doing Is avoiding getting into a fight with you b/c, Honestly girl, your ass always be lookin' fat, sorry "PHAT" and you are a woman witch make you crazy by default... Hey, don't get mad at me, God's the one who was all, like "huhhuhhhuhh, you know what'd be funny, what if a made another type of Floorman that, in regards to the new project I'm working on called "Flobopmans" (GODEDIT-#1: Think of a better name for "Flobopmans"/"Flobopmankind") would make this next creation much more fun and entertaining to watch (those stupid dinosaurs were sooo boring! It a good thing I buried them all deep underground so the flobopmens will never find out about them, b/c I'm sure as hell am not gonna tell them about that embarrassing mistake in the book I give them later, lol) was hot ass fucking shit, could literally create life, created it so that man was sexually attracted to them and also created it so that in order for the species to reproduce and survive the HAD to not only have sex, but also fall in luptopove with each other and stay together for, like, their whole lives (GODEDIT-#2 Think of a better name for "luptopove"), but the twist here is this new Flobopman I create is the same, but also completely fucking different form the other Flobopman AND almost imposable to understand what these new Flobopmans really mean when they tell their significant other Flobopman "it's cold" or "I'm not mad" or "what is that supposed to mean" "how come you never text from work, just to tell me that you're thinking of me? Do you never think of me?!" or "Who's Felisha, babe?" ...Yeah, lol, that would be hilarious"
Wait, Where am I? What was I talking about-OH YEAH... I remember now.
...Oh, and I feel fucking helpless, like there is NOTHING I can do to help what's happening right in front of my (and everyone else's) eyes, not only in the my home state, a state that I have lived in, literally, my entire life, but in this country that I love and see rotting away exponentially faster everyday... Is there a plan for when Peace, ENEVITABLY, betrays trump (He is part of the swamp after all... I think he's just playing Trump and the American people to make them think he has priceable and isn't just as corrupt as that rest of them... you DO NOT become a well established and respected career politician by your peers in congress from being uncorrupted as well as believing in things like "America first" and the constitution (How much do you know about Pence's political history?).
Wait. What happened to the election fraud sticker?
Hmmm.... Could Big Tech now be Afraid repeal of 230 will be retroactive?
PROVERBS FOR TODAY / 31: 8-9 You should defend those who cannot help themselves. Yes, speak up for the poor and helpless, and see they get justice.
They all are accountable for not standing with the American People!
courts, politicians and media ignore every piece of evidence...do they really think people will just shrug their shoulders and move on with life under lockdown ?? Do they really think the military will be on their side ? something is wrong here.
These cocksuckers message me four times a day to "vote early." Which as far as I'm concerned is an admission of voter fraud guilt already.
This means nothing, we all know that we were cheated and Trump actually won.
But our courts are fully corrupt, this country is now a joke.
Nothing is going to change without force
Truth and facts aren't enough to make them act.
...And what do YOU plan on doing about it? HUH?
Postpone? Cancel! The original results were probably great!
Great info. Now what is anyone in power going to do?
MORE impotently... What are We, the people, going to ACTUALLY do when pence INEVITABLY betrays Trump and declares Biden the president? Jan the 6th... Are there ANY plans of action for when that happens or are we all just going to yell "rabble-rabble-rabble" for a few hours and then go home. If that is case, WHY GO AT ALL? WHY STAND UP FOR ANYTHING YOU BELIEVE IN if, when the moment comes down to either do something or LICKING THE BOOT of tyranny... you stick out you weak beta tongue as you get in your car and go the fuck back where you are told... I don't want to do that, AT ALL, But I see ZERO ORGANIZED PLAN OF ATION THAT WE, THE PEOPLE THE MASSES, have made... If I am wrong (And please GOD, I hope I am) them tell me how I can help in this plan (and no not that "trust the plan" horseshit/psy-op that was made to keep Americans from getting up and doing what we should have been doing for decades upon decades... Which is HOLD OUR FUCKING GOVERNMNET ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS!! We don't do that anymore. This is PRECISLY the reason why things have gotten THIS bad). A government can ONLY be as tyrannical as IT CITIZENS allow... Why do you keep allowing all of this to happen?
Yeah but where is the evidence?
Wait WAIT...but Krebs said it was the most secure election EVER.....before he was fired of course.
Courts aren't going to take this up. It's up to us to try this in the court of public opinion.
So what's going to be done about it? A podcast? cool, that doesn't get anything done. Hell lin wood himself has spent more time pedaling his podcast than building strong cases. Constantly tweeting of stuff unrelated to the election that he has proof of, but never showing proof. Trump needed a different team of lawyers for this, it was too important
I’m confused as to why we’re even doing this audit/recount if it makes no difference in the outcome?
Evidence means nothing when its ignored.