That's not Covid, that's LITERALLY malpractice.
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The worst part is that intubation (the invasive part of ventilation) isn't necessary
anymorein every case. An Italian team developed a non invasive ventilator mask using a 3D printed valve to adapt a scuba mask back in March and gave it away for free.Edit: Any of you remember what the state of things was back in March? No PPE, no ventilators, 15 days to stop the spread, etc. My point was that Speddit, for whatever reason (China) was going out of their way to shadowban any useful information while actively promoting videos of people collapsing in the street and being welded into their apartments.
At the time I was discussing the China virus with a medevac nurse on physical therapy leave. I mentioned that I was shopping for ventilators on ebay (there were lots for sale then) and she was adamant that the problem would be a lack of qualified respiratory therapists to perform the intubation without making the patient's condition worse.
I used to post this information on the Speddit China virus forums, but my posts got very little exposure. I also used to post about how to make the masks available at the time (since Chinese in the US bought our supplies out) reusable and more effective against viruses and bacteria, but those posts went nowhere also.
Looks like your 3rd link is maybe not the one you intended? It's an article about coating mask filters with salt to help kill viruses
I just did some searching trying to understand why invasive intubation might still be necessary. No idea really but in the articles I looked at it looked like they were just dodging it. Basically the usual medical establishment technique of, when they realize they were doing something horribly wrong that cost lives they will
Bingo.
3rd link is right. I was just trying to point out that back in March, when hospitals were scrambling to develop solutions to overcome a shortage of n95 masks, a simple method of making masks reusable and more effective had been developed years before that even laymen could use. Speddit went out of their way to shadowban any mention of it. I'd even get new archive links every time I'd post it and they'd have the post hidden away in a few hours.
Dude, what the hell?
You're mixing up respirators (wearable devices that filter air) and ventilators (machines that breathe for you).
The mask you linked is to make a diy respirator from a scuba mask. You still need an n95 filter to attach to it, to keep you from getting sick. You still need working lungs that can pull air in through the filters.
Once you have the virus, if it causes ARDS, and you cannot oxygenate even with high flow oxygen or bipap, then you are in "respiratory failure" and need to maximize oxygenation. That means intubation, and being placed on a ventilator, which will push breaths of 100% oxygen directly into your lungs, with no work of breathing required by you. (Respiratory muscles use oxygen too, just like the rest of your body, so paralytic agents are used in severe cases to take away any unnecessary oxygen use and save it for the heart and brain).
Ventilation means eliminating CO2. Breathing in oxygenates, breathing out ventilates. You ventilate by having open airways. That means either the diaphragm pushing air out of the lungs, or positive pressure (PEEP; positive end expiratory pressure) to stent the airways open. To create positive pressure, you need a seal. You accomplish that with either a mask (BVM, BiPAP or CPAP), or intubation. Masks only work in a competent person. Someone who is obtunded from lack of oxygen getting to their brain cannot comply with a mask and will aspirate without a secure airway.
Intubation is standard of care. But in the case of covid, it usually seems to prolong the inevitable. Only the ones with the worst disease get intubated, and once the disease is that bad, you're the least likely to survive. Intubation and mechanical ventilation isn't killing anyone. But most of the ones that are moribund get intubated.
I'm an ER doctor, I make these decisions all day. Please don't confuse a scuba mask with an air filter and a machine that breathes for you, and please don't spread around the idea that intubation is not necessary because of this 3D printed mask adapter.
We do not give paralytics to decrease oxygen use but to keep patients from bucking the vent along with sedation.
Decreased oxygen demand could be an additional benefit of paralytics though.
Bucking the vent means the patient's sedation is too light. Paralyzing them just takes away the ability to fight the vent, but it doesn't take away the discomfort. If you put an awake person on AC/VC and they'll buck the vent. You can paralyze that person and they won't buck, but they'll be awake and miserable. If you sedate that person, they'll be tolerant of the vent, and they won't be miserable.
As for paralysis decreasing oxygen consumption, here's a source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14707568/
All my patients with ARDS and a P/F ratio less than 85 get nimbex gtt.
Thank you for chiming in here - I sincerely appreciate it.
I have to admit that Letlow’s tragic death has thrown me for a loop. Obviously the family isn’t providing extensive details. As an ER doctor - are you willing to provide a bit of insight and maybe some informed speculation as to how this happened? What does a heart attack have to do with COVID-19?
(I have no medical expertise, if that wasn’t already obvious...)
All I know is what I see in the news, so any input I have is purely speculative, and I'm speaking in generalities. But, I think this may simply be an issue if terminology.
People often mix up "cardiac arrest" (heart stops) with "heart attack" (damage being done to the heart by some mechanism). Every single person that dies, technically dies from "cardiopulmonary arrest" (heart and lungs stop, [because of something else], and they die).
There are 6 different "classes" of heart attacks. Usually when people talk about this, they refer to type 1, meaning there is a blockage in the blood vessels of your heart, and the heart muscle can't get oxygen, and it dies. This can, occasionally, lead to a bad cardiac rhythm (v. Fib) that stops blood flow, and then cardiac arrest ensues if not intervened upon.
All heart attacks involve a mismatch of oxygen supply (in the blood) and oxygen demand (heart muscle needs oxygen). If you increase the oxygen demand (ie heart working too hard--high blood pressure, high heart rate, etc) OR if you decrease oxygen supply (suffocation, pneumonia, ARDS/COVID, high altitude, etc) you can cause a mismatch of supply and demand which can cause heart muscle to die--a heart attack.
Intubation is a procedure often performed to secure a definitive airway and maximize oxygenation in the sickest patients. During that time, you TYPICALLY sedate the patient (inserting a tube through your vocal cords is highly noxious, your brain is programmed at the most basic level to protect your lungs from things going in there), and paralyze them so that the vocal cords stay open. There is a time between when you push the medication and you're waiting for the medication to take effect that the person gradually (over seconds to about a minute) stops breathing, before you insert the breathing tube. It's not always a straight shot, and some people have very challenging anatomy.
Healthy people who are fully oxygenated before intubation have about 8 minutes without breathing before their blood oxygen levels drop. With COVID, none of these people are well oxygenated and have no reserve, so as soon as they stop breathing, their oxygen level starts dropping. You try to get the tube in as fast as you can, but it's not guaranteed. There are many things you can and should do to optimize the person beforehand to increase your chances of success, and you always have at least one, sometimes two backup plans. But it's not a procedure to do without consideration to the risks involved, and that's why we often try not to intubate people because it's not a benign thing.
If the oxygen level drops too low before you get the tube in place, the person can quickly go into cardiac arrest (perhaps what happened in this case, and perhaps being mistakenly called a "heart attack"), and these patients are extremely hard to get back.
I don't know what procedure he was undergoing, but if I was a betting man, that's what I'd guess.
Lmao...intubations are absolutely needed. That scuba mask is a glorified CPAP. Tell me...what happens when the patient has a laryngospasm with that contraption on? I'll tell you....they die.
Yes the procedure goes like this:
For each step in this process there is a massive government payout to the hospital.
Doc here...
Newsflash for the moron physician quoted in the article: just because it hasn’t been diagnosed yet, doesn’t mean you don’t have an underlying condition.
Heart attack = underlying coronary artery disease.
People with normal coronaries don’t have procedure-related heart attacks.
It's far more common than youn think.
Children are increasingly showing the early stages of heart disease: atherosclerotic plaque in the arteries. Same thing goes for diabetes and even hypertension.
I won’t go into cause because I’ll be downvoted but you can look to the American College of Cardiology if you’re so inclined. Heart Disease is the number one killer, btw.
can it be anything but the mass processed food and sugar?
It’s literally high fat / high cholesterol diets and little exercise. “Processed” is a spook word.
I've read that cholesterol in food has little to no impact on your blood lipid profile. fwiw i eat several eggs every day and my numbers year over haven't changed much
It's highly dependent on your lifestyle and how your body is processing the fats.
Sugars and even processed carbs don't clog arteries. Saturated fat and cholesterol does. Especially when they've been oxidated by the liver (animal based sources) causing arterial inflammation. It's settled science but watch how they REEE.
That doesn't reconcile with low carb diets or things like avocados and coconuts. oxidation and inflammation for sure but causes seems suspect.
Sugars and shit food causes oxidation, no?
Sugar is a sharp crystal, salt is a sharp crystal. They both cause erosion of the arterial walls and inflammation in high enough concentration. Once the walls are damaged fat and Collesterol bind to the damaged walls. Carbs make sugar.
Certain low carb diets can wreak havoc on your arteries. You may lose weight and as a result your cholesterol will drop but high saturated animal fats equal high choline equal oxidated trimethylamine. Plant based choline doesn’t do this.
Avocado is high in fat but no cholesterol and again no damaging TMAO. Plus the fat is packaged with the beneficial plant fiber. There are no good studies that look at coconut oil in a strictly plant based diet but the large fluffy particles are hypothesized to cause minimal CV damage compared to dense oils like vegetable and animal sources. Anecdotally when westerners explored the pacific islands they found inhabitants had no detectable heart disease despite the high saturated fat diet from coconuts, including coconut oil. This according to the famed Pritikin Institute.
It sure is. “Heart disease” is still the most common cause of death.
Had my 1st heart attack at 40. I was healthy, in great shape physically, and no other symptoms. If it weren't for the quickness of the hospital ER staff, I would have passed away. Ended up with a couple of stents. I had no idea that heart disease ran in the family. All the family was already passed away when I was small, all from heart disease.
My grand parents all had heart problems.
They were also all heavy smokers.
My parents are doing okay in their 70s. They don't smoke.
If he had a family history it’s - very common
One of the meteorologists for a local station had covid like 3 months ago and is still recovering and she wrote “I’ll shout from the rooftops, I had no underlying condition!”
I said to my dad what you said, just cause it’s undiagnosed doesn’t mean you don’t have a condition. People can go a long time having a condition without it being diagnosed. So good chance she has some undiagnosed condition that lead to covid affecting her this far out.
Probably a lack of vitamin D.
Another doc here can confirm. Also Covid puts you in a pro-thrombotic state. Meaning you're more likely to get clots. This can lead to heart attacks or strokes.
Good point. Typically thrombus formation in the coronaries would not form without underlying plaque being present. I know you’re not suggesting this, just noting this for clarity’s sake.
Yes that's true. I have seen a lot of small PEs and some really large ones leading to heart strain etc.
Verbal preemptive post-mortem---who needs an autopsy?
Agree, the guy did not die of COVID something else got him or happened
They couldn't beat him with election fraud so they just offed him. Now the Democrat governor will choose his replacement.
And that Democrat governor cheated himself in in 2018, without Dominion. I watched it election night, Rispone was leading, the whole night, then suddenly, after LITERALLY all other parishes had reported in 100%, a magical boost in votes in one parish, put the son of a bitch in the lead by about 20,000, iirc.
Wow. That happened with our "governor" blackface here in VA too. Fairfax County waited until everything else was counted, then created enough votes to throw him the "win." These people are evil.
I came to write this. He stole the shit outta that election.
We have it all. Repercussions dead ahead
We'll see!
I think some people forget that this fraud does not just affect the presidential election. Think how many seats have been stolen.
Yup I called it from the beginning. Orleans and bossier parishes are the only 2 they have to win to win the whole state. We also had dominion machines. 100 percent fraud
Y'all got Dominion machines? I'm up here in BR and we got those old '90's "clunk" machines.
Sounds like KY. The election fraud is everywhere.
Sounds just like what happened with Kim Foxx. Republican, black female opponent was way up when I went to bed at 11pm. Woke up and the race was called for Kim Foxx.
Medical error deaths are always among the highest contributors to total deaths for a country. I wonder how many of these docs are trying to save their asses after botched surgeries with "it was covid".. I have a feeling medical error death numbers will go the same way as regular flu deaths.
I went to go look up some charts to help me call BS on that, and all I could find were studies that say it's true. I'm pretty surprised. I knew it was a problem but DAMN. Most of the stuff I just looked at put it somewhere in the top 3 causes of death in the US.
Being able to blame it on Covid is like writing these fuckers an immunity deal to commit mass murder.
“Oopsies.” He’s dead. Let me just fix this real quick.
“Patient died of COVID-19”.
Cool, now I can get that C19 bonus and these nurses can get paid some overtime to continue dancing for Tiktok (they’re such heroes ❤️). All is right with the world once again.
Everybody gets a China virus Medicare jackpot bonus!
$13K bonus for every China virus patient that walks through the door, $38K bonus if they let the patient get sick enough to need the ICU, and a 20% bonus multiplier on the entire hospital bill!
Add in the reduced malpractice insurance premiums and you'd have to be a fool not to take advantage of it.
Don't hate the player, hate the game!
This right here. Hospitals have completely altered their revenue streams to reap this windfall. Everything is covid now, no test required. And if you DO have to test, the amplifications are cranked so high now it’ll probably come back positive anyway.
"With PCR if you do it well you can find almost anything in anybody." - Kary Mullis
I'm not a biologist but wanted to do a quick sanity check on the design of the test but it is not an easy undertaking. Just from a computer science / information theory perspective I was a little surprised at how short the primers/probes they use are:
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/real-time-rt-pcr-assays-for-the-detection-of-sars-cov-2-institut-pasteur-paris.pdf
Short, as in, easier to be that these molecules are just appearing by coincidence, not coming from the actual virus
It's not like every test comes back positive though, so I don't think they're just amplifying the shit out of it till everyone tests positive.
Lancet - False-positive COVID-19 results: hidden problems and costs
I think it must be something like, maybe you can get a positive test from some molecules not actually originating from the sars cov2 virus, but most false positive tests probably come from the case where you've actually had the virus in your system but you maybe never got ill or were a "spreader", or maybe you got somewhat ill but you've recovered and there is this viral "shedding" thing going on (I don't understand what it is but they mention it in the article above)
In April, I'd expect most test kits were coming from the CDC. The CDC violated their own protocol by manufacturing test kits in the same facility where they were studying the virus.
I hope that problem had been corrected by late July, but these are gov't workers, and prolonging the problem could only benefit them.
This is true. My daughter had it at college back in September. A couple weeks after, she still didn't feel great, and the infirmary sent her to the ER to get checked out due to low oxygen levels. The local hospital there performed basically every test they could in a span of about 2 hours and said everything was fine. The bill was well over 4 grand for that 2 hours, and it was all paid for without me even having to meet my 5k deductible. Of course the insurance knocked the rate down, but the hospital probably doesn't care since they can get government money on top of it.
I read that there could be mucus plugs in the lungs after covid which are then treated with steroids. IDK
Even better now that Jayquan is pushed through the system despite failing every single metric
In addition to medical errors, hospital aquired infections are a big problem, and they will code those as COVID deaths. Great resource for people who have loved ones in the hospital is a book, "Unaccountable: What Hospitals Won't Tell You and How Transparency Can Revolutionize Health Care". It's not COVID related, but was eye opening.
Who knows if he was intubated by an antifa nurse... They said they would do it.
I have always hated hospitals. They can't make money from health people. They want you to be always sick.
They do get $30-40k a rona death. Of course they’ll be throwing out that COD like skittles. Though this story seems like murder, the dude was only 41!
74 yr old father in law currently in the hospital for covid, had his phone taken and can barely get info out of the nurses. Not allowed to see him. My feeling is they're setting him up to kill on a ventilator as they keep saying he needs oxygen. Been there since Friday morning
If he needs oxygen, ventilator isn't the solution, oxygen is. Covid makes the alveoli weak. If you intubate him at that point with a pressurized ventilator, it ruptures the alveoli. Get him on pure oxygen and do not let them ventilate unless it is set to low pressure and high oxygen.
Healthcare worker 41+ years and I tell all my loved ones NEVER,EVER go into hospital without an intelligent, conscious bedside family member. If they try to give you grief, claim to be a lawyer. (You'll be mentioned in every shift change report, "Daughter is an attorney.")
Thank you, he called an ambulance early in the morning without telling anyone...next thing we know they have him in there on the road to a ventilator. We are trying to get him moved to a VA hospital (vietnam vet)
Hope everything goes well! Praying for him and you...
Explains why no family are allowed anywhere near Covid patients.
How is it legal for them to confiscate his phone?
Try to get him on the ivermectin cure. It has been talked about on TD
Well don't let them!! Tell them if they don't let you see him you will lose your mind and they will feel the heat more than the sunshine on their face!!
Supporting evidence that they are reclassifying heart condition related deaths as covid as per the Johns Hopkins analysis
I'm hoping his family will order an autopsy. Something just doesn't feel right here.
Won't make a difference, whatever court they go to is gonna have a deepstate judge to rule that the coronavirus epidemic is completely real and super dangerous and they can parade in a bunch of other "doctors" as expert witnesses to back it up
With covid, not from, like 94% of the others were with, not from.
Calling it malpractice doesn’t quite cut it. This was a murder. Politically motivated murder. Good luck trying to convince me otherwise.
I don’t know about Louisiana but I can tell you in NY they kill people all the time in the hospital, even pre covid. The doctors just refuse to do anything that isn’t unnecessary and deadly
There's a hospital in New Orleans called Meadow Crest.
We all call it Murdercrest
They killed my mother in upstate. She was old, went in for a UTI, came out dead. Brother thinks hospital tricked him with legal talk that doesnt mean what you think it means. Everybody has to move from NY. It is an evil state.
He was Breitbart'd. They took him out with a "heart attack"
any symptom is not a covid symptom. Its a respiratory illness but somehow nausea and diarrhea is an indicator of covid? the fuck?
Exactly. Anything is covid symptom so the hospital can then sedate you and throw you on a ventilator in the ICU until it kills you. Then they get a huge payoff.
They murdered that poor man! Savages!
My hometown. This doesn’t surprise me one bit. Shreveport is a shithole city, and LSU Medical has a horrible reputation. Went there after being hit by a car when I was riding my bike when I was eight years old. I was a little kid who was knocked unconscious by a car, bleeding out my right ear, and it took this hospital 10 hours to get two tests done to find out I had a concussion and a hairline fracture in my skull.
Deep State sure taught him a lesson, didnt they? Just like the boyfriend of Brian Kemp's daughter.
How many coincidences is it gonna take for us to learn our lesson?
Bull shite!
Wow I wonder how many malpractice suits have been swept under the Covid rug?
So...bad reaction to the pre-intubation sedation meds?
I guess without COVID, the malpractice wouldn't have happened, so yeah, totally COVID.
DEAR MEDICAL INDUSTRY
YOUR DAYS OF RUNNING THE WORLD LIKE A HIGH PRIESTHOOD ARE OVER.
I am just gonna use the F word.
FRAUDS
It pisses me off because these people are protected from malpractice because covid-19. Its bullshit. That's why we see so many of them doing tik-toks. They're immune from malpractice lawsuits.
People who drop dead from heat issues in their mid 40s most likely went years with a high blood glucose. It wrecks havoc on your body.....the heart usually craps out if gone untreated.
So something like COVID would absolutely trigger those undiagnosed ailments.
And thus the fraud is laid bare: almost all Covid deaths are actually other causes being called Covid. This reclassification and mortality displacement creates scary looking graphs but no actual deviation on the yearly charts for all cause. They take from one category to be inflate the other.
Did he get one of several outpatient treatments known to improve outcomes or did his healthcare provider prescribe the CDC guidelines of go home, isolate and wait until you feel sick enough to go to the hospital?
Source article:
https://www.thenewsstar.com/story/news/2020/12/29/louisiana-congressman-elect-luke-letlow-dies-covid/4082977001/
He had a heart attack while trying to jam the ventilator down his throat and now they want to cover it up with covid.
Cool link, OP! #gay
Hashtags are for twitter, fucktard.
And links are for people just posting cropped screenshots of articles instead of giving us an archived link. But by all means, keep up the low energy, douchebag!
Oh fuck me, the guy that joined 55 days ago with a massive 28 comment points and zero post points is gonna tell me how to post. Everybody take notes! This guys an expert! STFU and read Gateway Pundit like everyone else on here and stop crying every time someone doesn't serve up a link to the almighty u/BlackFolk on a silver platter. Saucefag.
I lost my first account, but cool assumption. You could have at least saw where, in my “28 comments,” I explicitly address that topic. See, even your reading abilities are low energy. Why can’t you just post the archive link?
Why are there contradictory claims in one report?? Is this 2 reports from 2 different articles? Because that's not what the article I read said??.... What am I missing?