So, the problem isn't that this is 'stimulus' trying to recover from a recession .. it's "emergency relief" for a "pandemic". The "people who need it most" are precisely the ones who had their business closed, and now can't make a living. An income tax deduction is an exact "let them eat cake" moment.
Yes - for people who are working, an income tax deduction/forgiveness would be awesome. Though...you'd have to pay real close attention to your tax bracket, effective tax rate, etc. If you're going to have an effective tax rate of 10%, and you want to beat $2,000 free money .. you need a $20k taxable income deduction. Lol.
The proper solution is to stop fucking around and open businesses back up. That would solve this. Instead, if government is going to close businesses at gunpoint .. that is a reasonably compelling reason that they need to give you money.
Unfortunately, that's a joke. Imagine spending something like 800 billion, to give yourself 200 billion. That's effectively the covid relief bill, or whatever the hell it is.
Though I have lost no work over the pandemic and don’t even qualify for any money (because I make too much), I still think that there are people in desperate need of money that a future income tax offset won’t help. No need to insult, we can have different ideas and debate them on the merits.
I'm not concerned about future harm, people are absolutely being harmed and crushed by government right now. I am personally against any stimulus or bailouts, but President Trump is fighting for it, so I will support that.
Even if you kept your job or didn't need to have one, you got hurt by government.
"Leaders" who didn't know any better, made it up as they went along and changed the rules every week. There are no signs that this is going to change in the near future.
There were a few shining stars here that didn't lock down their states, but these were offset by NY, MA and CA where the government caused people to die. A recent news story suggests the US Covid numbers are different if you take California out of them, but even a state like NY would have different numbers if you removed NYC.
If a company behaved like some state governments, causing this much damage, they'd have been sued in court and lost. In this case, since they government caused the damage, they should pay, the problem in the end, is we're paying ourselves back or forward out of our own taxes.
I like your idea. I opened a biz in January, in Louisiana. Never had a chance. Burned $30k, my entire life savings, trying to hold on until the curve was flattened, and shit when back to normal. I'd love to be reimbursed for even HALF of that. Especially since Jan Feb Mar went PERFECTLY according to plan, everything looked great.
I would literally be consumed with rage 24/7 if this happened to me!! I have taken a finance/career hit but nothing this outrageous. Someone needs to fucking pay for what is being done to small business owners.
He totally phucking with Democrats and riggers. All those that rigged the election be like damn, could have got 2K from whiteboy instead of $5 for them ballots.
Still can’t believe we are fighting for it though. We always fight on the lefts terms and it’s annoying. Only reason why there is a discussion about stimulus’s is because the left destroyed everything and now pretend to be the saviors
I know people need it but we’d all be better off if there was no stimulus and trump just used the army to arrest and execute any governor that endorsed a covid policy.
and nothing for all these stupid globalist initiatives and foreign programs. Americans can donate to them out of their own pocket if they would like to, stop jacking the rest of us and forcing us to.
Coworker: "any ideas how you'll spend your stim check?"
Me: "That cz scorpion evo 3 s2 looks nice..maybe a 10/22 charger with folding pistol brace...but I imagine it'll be all sunk into mags, ammo, and rope."
And ONLY $2000! Rest of the world can GET FUKT!!!
While I would be very happy with this too, I dont think it accomplishes the endstate of a stimulus if a lot of people have no income to pay taxes on
Well. That thread with juice got weird.
So, the problem isn't that this is 'stimulus' trying to recover from a recession .. it's "emergency relief" for a "pandemic". The "people who need it most" are precisely the ones who had their business closed, and now can't make a living. An income tax deduction is an exact "let them eat cake" moment.
Yes - for people who are working, an income tax deduction/forgiveness would be awesome. Though...you'd have to pay real close attention to your tax bracket, effective tax rate, etc. If you're going to have an effective tax rate of 10%, and you want to beat $2,000 free money .. you need a $20k taxable income deduction. Lol.
The proper solution is to stop fucking around and open businesses back up. That would solve this. Instead, if government is going to close businesses at gunpoint .. that is a reasonably compelling reason that they need to give you money.
Unfortunately, that's a joke. Imagine spending something like 800 billion, to give yourself 200 billion. That's effectively the covid relief bill, or whatever the hell it is.
Though I have lost no work over the pandemic and don’t even qualify for any money (because I make too much), I still think that there are people in desperate need of money that a future income tax offset won’t help. No need to insult, we can have different ideas and debate them on the merits.
I hate that soft gentle note not get ugly here...we don't want to look like a bunch of assholes.
I'm not concerned about future harm, people are absolutely being harmed and crushed by government right now. I am personally against any stimulus or bailouts, but President Trump is fighting for it, so I will support that.
They damaged all citizens and other residents.
Even if you kept your job or didn't need to have one, you got hurt by government.
"Leaders" who didn't know any better, made it up as they went along and changed the rules every week. There are no signs that this is going to change in the near future.
There were a few shining stars here that didn't lock down their states, but these were offset by NY, MA and CA where the government caused people to die. A recent news story suggests the US Covid numbers are different if you take California out of them, but even a state like NY would have different numbers if you removed NYC.
If a company behaved like some state governments, causing this much damage, they'd have been sued in court and lost. In this case, since they government caused the damage, they should pay, the problem in the end, is we're paying ourselves back or forward out of our own taxes.
Donate it to a local business or businesses that are struggling. Positive that it would help them if it doesn't help you out.
I like your idea. I opened a biz in January, in Louisiana. Never had a chance. Burned $30k, my entire life savings, trying to hold on until the curve was flattened, and shit when back to normal. I'd love to be reimbursed for even HALF of that. Especially since Jan Feb Mar went PERFECTLY according to plan, everything looked great.
Thank God I didn't take out a loan.
I would literally be consumed with rage 24/7 if this happened to me!! I have taken a finance/career hit but nothing this outrageous. Someone needs to fucking pay for what is being done to small business owners.
You can donate the money to others you feel were harmed. 4 struggling waitresses receiving 500 each would be very grateful.
That's pretty much my sentiments. One part of me says this is just gov't. cheese, but then I'd rather give Americans the cheese than anybody else.
And my new bands name is syskill
"WHAAAAAAAAAAAA!"
Didn't expect anyone to get that kek
Kek! ;-)
I don’t even qualify fir the $2000, but I still think $0 should go to foreign countries until America is back open.
Member a couple of months ago when we didn’t have the money to build a wall? But we have billions set aside to get to foreign countries!
I was expecting to see sacks of shit in his tweet
Same, lol.
The Blue whale anus can open 3.5 feet making it the worlds second largest asshole in the world, next to Mitch McConnell
$600, $2000, whatever.....they're just throwing breadcrumbs to the people who'll gobble them up without knowing any better.
POTUS is trying to fund a revolution here. $2000 goes a lot further than $600
He totally phucking with Democrats and riggers. All those that rigged the election be like damn, could have got 2K from whiteboy instead of $5 for them ballots.
Lol i got a 1500 dollar bonus the day they announced the 600 dollars. They took 600 dollars out of my bonus. Its useless.
Still can’t believe we are fighting for it though. We always fight on the lefts terms and it’s annoying. Only reason why there is a discussion about stimulus’s is because the left destroyed everything and now pretend to be the saviors
I know people need it but we’d all be better off if there was no stimulus and trump just used the army to arrest and execute any governor that endorsed a covid policy.
I'd be fine with that. A bunch of libs would reeeeeee but that's what they do anyway so it would make no difference
Thanks for providing the "reading in between the lines" translation
How bout refund our taxes.
I got $600 that hit my bank account today.
How the fuck did they offer 600 bucks and now everyone here is screaming for the stronger socialism option of 2000?
I love how he doesn't sugar coat it, doesn't fluff it, doesn't finesse with message.
Two words to strike fear in those responsible.
Now all we need are responsible parties.
What happened to the $1,200 they said would come out or is it even coming at still?
Is $2000 still in the table? I’ve already received the $600.
$2000 YOU DUMB BASTARDS
"bUt MuH nEw YeArs DAy nEeDs MoRe pORk!"
and nothing for all these stupid globalist initiatives and foreign programs. Americans can donate to them out of their own pocket if they would like to, stop jacking the rest of us and forcing us to.
Coworker: "any ideas how you'll spend your stim check?"
Me: "That cz scorpion evo 3 s2 looks nice..maybe a 10/22 charger with folding pistol brace...but I imagine it'll be all sunk into mags, ammo, and rope."
I honestly would prefer he tweeted the title
A$AP
At first I thought OP was calling GEOTUS a sack of shit. lol
Mr. President, Why are people in Texas getting 600 stimulus checks as I write this?
And NUKE CHINA ASAP
I'm more interested in eliminating the rest of the BS from the bill.
Oh great, more "free money" for taxpayers to pay for