So forgive me, but I’m not 100% and n what happens now that Hawley is doing this. What’s the best case scenario? Not dooming, just illegitimately ignorant this this particular subject
From my understanding, now that an objection will be raised by both a member of the House and Senate, each state that is objected to will be debated upon for 2 hours (per state objection). Beyond this, I am not sure what occurs. I assume during the debate, evidence can be presented in some way in order to sway the outcome of acceptance of electors. And considering that multiple states will possibly be objected to, the hours of debate will stack up.
Exactly my point. Trump follows Art of War and that explicitly states that you play your best hand last. His team just spent the last 2 months delivering haymakers, forcing the other side to defend, deny, and fuck up publicly, with each new discovery worst than the last. The knock out punch is coming.
Nothing happens now, all this is about speculation of one option for Jan 6th.
The whole "congress critters objecting" is NOT in the US Constitution, which spells out the process. The "congress critters objecting" comes from the 1887 Electoral Count Act which is wholey unconstitutional (since it violates the process spelled out in the Constitution).
If realize DJT/Pence/Republicans won landslide victories across the map; and it's the Dems who need to get their fraudulent Electors votes in; rather than the other way around of how most people listening to the megaphones have the issue framed.
Still 1 week of this judiciary phase, aka the 3rd quarter; the 4th quarter is the joint-session (atm) on Jan 6th (as written in the amended Constitution). 5th quarter is overtime if required between the 6th and the 20th as written/amended. Focus on the Here and Now, head in the game.
The Electors votes are opened and DJT will have 270 or more votes for POTUS; and / or Pence will have 270 or more votes for VP.
There wont be 270 votes for either POTUS or VP, and then it goes into contingent voting:
For POTUS, it goes to the House members to vote by State Delegation (each State gets 1 vote; so Rhode Island with 2 House seats gets 1 vote; and CA with 53 House seats gets 1 vote.) Majority of votes to win.
For VP, the voting goes to the Senators to decide. The list of names that are eligible have to come from the top vote getters from the Electors. Majority of votes to win.
Also to note, Electors and congress can only vote for eligible people; so those that are ineligible either for already serving say 8 years as Potus; or not (natural born) US Citizens; who received votes, their vote totals = zero (eg the Dem Ticket.)
If no one gets a majority for either POTUS or VP in immediate contingent voting; the timeline goes into "Overtime phase" of re-voting by the House or Senate, until winners are selected by Jan 20th. More rules follow, some rules are also not constitutional as well in the overtime phase. In the event, that none are selected, If it goes down this path; there will be more legal challenges including to things like unconstitutional provisions in Amendments which need to be stricken down too.
Another note: New congress gets sworn in on Jan 3rd; and of course there's issues with many House and some Senate seats; including violations by having voting occur before Election Day and after Election Day; which violates the US Constitution & US Code from it.
Article 1, Section 4, Clause 1: Time, place, and manner of holding
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing [sic] Senators.
Which congress has set in "2 U.S. Code § 7.Time of election"
The Tuesday next after the 1st Monday in November, in every even numbered year, is established as the day for the election, in each of the States and Territories of the United States, of Representatives and Delegates to the Congress commencing on the 3d day of January next thereafter.
See how enforcing the US Constitution as written solves most all these "problems" which have been created by intentionally violating the US Constitution by the democracy party.
So forgive me, but I’m not 100% and n what happens now that Hawley is doing this. What’s the best case scenario? Not dooming, just illegitimately ignorant this this particular subject
From my understanding, now that an objection will be raised by both a member of the House and Senate, each state that is objected to will be debated upon for 2 hours (per state objection). Beyond this, I am not sure what occurs. I assume during the debate, evidence can be presented in some way in order to sway the outcome of acceptance of electors. And considering that multiple states will possibly be objected to, the hours of debate will stack up.
"We caught them all, we have everything"
We still haven't seen the full weight of that statement.
Exactly my point. Trump follows Art of War and that explicitly states that you play your best hand last. His team just spent the last 2 months delivering haymakers, forcing the other side to defend, deny, and fuck up publicly, with each new discovery worst than the last. The knock out punch is coming.
Nothing happens now, all this is about speculation of one option for Jan 6th.
The whole "congress critters objecting" is NOT in the US Constitution, which spells out the process. The "congress critters objecting" comes from the 1887 Electoral Count Act which is wholey unconstitutional (since it violates the process spelled out in the Constitution).
If realize DJT/Pence/Republicans won landslide victories across the map; and it's the Dems who need to get their fraudulent Electors votes in; rather than the other way around of how most people listening to the megaphones have the issue framed.
Still 1 week of this judiciary phase, aka the 3rd quarter; the 4th quarter is the joint-session (atm) on Jan 6th (as written in the amended Constitution). 5th quarter is overtime if required between the 6th and the 20th as written/amended. Focus on the Here and Now, head in the game.
MAGA On! & Happy New Years Eve!
What exactly will happen on Jan 6th? What I mean: How will Trump be elected on this day? With Pence or?
Well it generally will go one of two ways:
The Electors votes are opened and DJT will have 270 or more votes for POTUS; and / or Pence will have 270 or more votes for VP.
There wont be 270 votes for either POTUS or VP, and then it goes into contingent voting:
For POTUS, it goes to the House members to vote by State Delegation (each State gets 1 vote; so Rhode Island with 2 House seats gets 1 vote; and CA with 53 House seats gets 1 vote.) Majority of votes to win.
For VP, the voting goes to the Senators to decide. The list of names that are eligible have to come from the top vote getters from the Electors. Majority of votes to win.
Also to note, Electors and congress can only vote for eligible people; so those that are ineligible either for already serving say 8 years as Potus; or not (natural born) US Citizens; who received votes, their vote totals = zero (eg the Dem Ticket.)
If no one gets a majority for either POTUS or VP in immediate contingent voting; the timeline goes into "Overtime phase" of re-voting by the House or Senate, until winners are selected by Jan 20th. More rules follow, some rules are also not constitutional as well in the overtime phase. In the event, that none are selected, If it goes down this path; there will be more legal challenges including to things like unconstitutional provisions in Amendments which need to be stricken down too.
Another note: New congress gets sworn in on Jan 3rd; and of course there's issues with many House and some Senate seats; including violations by having voting occur before Election Day and after Election Day; which violates the US Constitution & US Code from it.
Article 1, Section 4, Clause 1: Time, place, and manner of holding
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Clause_1:_Time,_place,_and_manner_of_holding
Which congress has set in "2 U.S. Code § 7.Time of election"
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/2/7
See how enforcing the US Constitution as written solves most all these "problems" which have been created by intentionally violating the US Constitution by the democracy party.
Thank you very much.
How Trump will have 270+ votes?
How will there be no 270 votes for anyone?
Thank you for spelling this out!