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ShinAkuma 1 point ago +1 / -0

They didn't stop. The legislature and governor knew that this was unconstitutional

Yes that why I said they were proceeding with a constitutional amendment. They stopped probably because of logistics and hopes nobody would care. A constitutional amendment is a down ballot vote.

The point is, retweeting "strongly worded letters" and other PR nonsense is nothing by lies and a waste of time. The naive think that "Well, "Based" Doug is stepping up so I can just keep tweeting my life away and forget about everything" and the same bullshit that keeps lying frauds like this in office (aside from fraud) perpetuates itself.

This doesn't mean Doug isn't on our side. He voted for the bill originally with the knowledge that an amendment would be required to make it binding. The Leg or SOS or somebody didn't follow up.

This is simple. We are in this situation because Mastriano and all the rest not only refuse to do their jobs, they actively work to delegate their responsibilities elsewhere so that they can claim things are not their fault.

The obvious assumption by most lawmakers is that the elected officials would be working for the best interests of the people. The Leg had no reason to believe this would be used to steal an election.

Yes it's their fault to some degree, so they have the opportunity to fix it. We shall see.

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Damiano [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

Respectfully, we have seen.

Mastriano voted for shit, repeatedly, that does nothing but undermine voting integrity and taken no meaningful action on any of his pretty yet contradictory words.

Let's make this simple- I defy anyone to read the text of Act 77 and justify anyone supporting it. Forget the muddled PR mess that everyone is spinning now. There is absolutely zero reason for anyone to vote in favor of that bill unless they support undermining voting integrity.

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ShinAkuma 1 point ago +1 / -0

Respectfully, we have seen.

Mastriano voted for shit, repeatedly, that does nothing but undermine voting integrity and taken no meaningful action on any of his pretty yet contradictory words.

Look it does appear to be a good idea. Under the assumption the system is honest mail in voting should work. Obviously it doesn't.

Let's make this simple- I defy anyone to read the text of Act 77 and justify anyone supporting it. Forget the muddled PR mess that everyone is spinning now. There is absolutely zero reason for anyone to vote in favor of that bill unless they support undermining voting integrity.

The act is no overtly bad. I wouldn't have voted for it, but I can understand why some might.

Plus the mechanism of the vote in PA is not the problem. The problem is that nobody will let the votes be audited. If we audit the votes it's over.

So what lawful remedy besides Twitter do you think Mastriano should take? He has been trying to get a special session. What else can he do?

Plus if Twitter shit means you aren't really on the side of the people, what does that say about Trump? Why aren't the feds confiscating the votes or voting machines?

I believe Trump is on our side despite the lack of action thus far, just as I believe Mastriano is on our side.

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Damiano [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

What can he do? Plenty. Here are a couple of examples off the top of my head:

He and his personal political organization and affiliated groups have direct access to substantial resources to mobilize people, fundraising, and a lot of other resources. These resources could be brought to bear on whipping votes for a special session, organizing actual, physical actions in PA and DC, etc. To date, he has not made even the slightest effort to do any of these things.

Is he busing people to DC or Harrisburg? Has he used any of this political resources for anything besides his own personal political ambitions? No. What- exactly- has he done to override "leadership" beyond making excuses of "...but leadership..."? Nothing.

His "efforts" have been nothing but posting nonsense on Twitter and signing on to letters that are not worth the digital pixels that they are printed with.

Here's the thing- his PR stunts aren't the problem by themselves. The result of his PR stunts (that do nothing but promote his own personal ambitions) is that everyone spends days and weeks saying, "Oh, Doug is on it. Let's see how that plays out and then we and start looking at options to do something else". Then, fast forward #twoweeks, nothing happens, and Doug puts out another tweet. Wash, rinse, repeat. No one does anything and nothing changes.

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ShinAkuma 1 point ago +1 / -0

What can he do? Plenty. Here are a couple of examples off the top of my head: He and his personal political organization and affiliated groups have direct access to substantial resources to mobilize people, fundraising, and a lot of other resources. These resources could be brought to bear on whipping votes for a special session, organizing actual, physical actions in PA and DC, etc. To date, he has not made even the slightest effort to do any of these things. Is he busing people to DC or Harrisburg? Has he used any of this political resources for anything besides his own personal political ambitions? No. What- exactly- has he done to override "leadership" beyond making excuses of "...but leadership..."? Nothing.

Has anybody on "our side" done anything like this anywhere at any level, local, State or Fed?

If the answer is "no" then why is this man held to a higher standard?

His "efforts" have been nothing but posting nonsense on Twitter and signing on to letters that are not worth the digital pixels that they are printed with.

How is this any different than the majority of others?

Here's the thing- his PR stunts aren't the problem by themselves. The result of his PR stunts (that do nothing but promote his own personal ambitions) is that everyone spends days and weeks saying, "Oh, Doug is on it. Let's see how that plays out and then we and start looking at options to do something else". Then, fast forward #twoweeks, nothing happens, and Doug puts out another tweet. Wash, rinse, repeat. No one does anything and nothing changes.

I understand your frustration but I'm not sure what makes this any different than the majority of the political establishment even those on our side?

You gotta to remember these people are indoctrinated to believe that emails and letters and phones calls is the best way to get things done. They have been....neutered of their fire. He probably legit believes this means something.

Consider than back in Washington's time there would be either killing or shit kicking people who tried to steal an election. We as a society are docile. Have you called each Leg everyday for the past 45 days? Your Senators? Your Congressman? Probably not and that's because we believe in the system. The same system Mastriano believes in.

However I do agree the system has failed and we need to start lighting shit up.