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Damiano [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

What can he do? Plenty. Here are a couple of examples off the top of my head:

He and his personal political organization and affiliated groups have direct access to substantial resources to mobilize people, fundraising, and a lot of other resources. These resources could be brought to bear on whipping votes for a special session, organizing actual, physical actions in PA and DC, etc. To date, he has not made even the slightest effort to do any of these things.

Is he busing people to DC or Harrisburg? Has he used any of this political resources for anything besides his own personal political ambitions? No. What- exactly- has he done to override "leadership" beyond making excuses of "...but leadership..."? Nothing.

His "efforts" have been nothing but posting nonsense on Twitter and signing on to letters that are not worth the digital pixels that they are printed with.

Here's the thing- his PR stunts aren't the problem by themselves. The result of his PR stunts (that do nothing but promote his own personal ambitions) is that everyone spends days and weeks saying, "Oh, Doug is on it. Let's see how that plays out and then we and start looking at options to do something else". Then, fast forward #twoweeks, nothing happens, and Doug puts out another tweet. Wash, rinse, repeat. No one does anything and nothing changes.

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ShinAkuma 1 point ago +1 / -0

What can he do? Plenty. Here are a couple of examples off the top of my head: He and his personal political organization and affiliated groups have direct access to substantial resources to mobilize people, fundraising, and a lot of other resources. These resources could be brought to bear on whipping votes for a special session, organizing actual, physical actions in PA and DC, etc. To date, he has not made even the slightest effort to do any of these things. Is he busing people to DC or Harrisburg? Has he used any of this political resources for anything besides his own personal political ambitions? No. What- exactly- has he done to override "leadership" beyond making excuses of "...but leadership..."? Nothing.

Has anybody on "our side" done anything like this anywhere at any level, local, State or Fed?

If the answer is "no" then why is this man held to a higher standard?

His "efforts" have been nothing but posting nonsense on Twitter and signing on to letters that are not worth the digital pixels that they are printed with.

How is this any different than the majority of others?

Here's the thing- his PR stunts aren't the problem by themselves. The result of his PR stunts (that do nothing but promote his own personal ambitions) is that everyone spends days and weeks saying, "Oh, Doug is on it. Let's see how that plays out and then we and start looking at options to do something else". Then, fast forward #twoweeks, nothing happens, and Doug puts out another tweet. Wash, rinse, repeat. No one does anything and nothing changes.

I understand your frustration but I'm not sure what makes this any different than the majority of the political establishment even those on our side?

You gotta to remember these people are indoctrinated to believe that emails and letters and phones calls is the best way to get things done. They have been....neutered of their fire. He probably legit believes this means something.

Consider than back in Washington's time there would be either killing or shit kicking people who tried to steal an election. We as a society are docile. Have you called each Leg everyday for the past 45 days? Your Senators? Your Congressman? Probably not and that's because we believe in the system. The same system Mastriano believes in.

However I do agree the system has failed and we need to start lighting shit up.

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Damiano [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

The only point that I disagree on is that I am singling Mastriano out. On the contrary, I am saying that all legislators need to be held to these standards. He is simply a convenient example.

One caveat: I do single out Mastriano and others who are engaging in similar kabuki theater because their actions accomplish the opposite of what their words suggest. And they know it. The only calls going to their offices are unwarranted praise and people who should be stepping up themselves are, instead, “Waiting for Doug”.

This is simple. Government of the people, by the people, for the people. No one is paying attention to that. Instead, everyone is sitting around waiting for “leaders” (aka, politicians, aka, the people who are explicitly NOT the leaders, under the Constitution) to “step up” and everyone is stuck in the same circle jerk of saying the next person is line should do something.

If you own a business, either individual or with a group of partners, and one or more of your employees is fucking off and stealing from the till, you don’t stand around demanding that the same employees fix the problem, stop stealing, and show up on time the next day. You walk your happy ass in there, start firing people, and, if there is no one worth keeping, run the till yourself until you can hire someone who is willing and able to do the job.

People in government are our employees. Our fellow citizens are the bosses. Yeah, half of the bosses want turn a blind eye or are in on the steal themselves. That still doesn’t make the solution, “Well, maybe the employees will stop stealing tomorrow” or “That Doug guy has been organizing the theft but it sounds like he doesn’t like it much. Let’s give him a pass for now and tell him to bring the people who are enjoying the theft around”.

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ShinAkuma 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fair enough.