Yeah.. as soon as she qualified herself 'with a degree' i wrote it off. The rest of the words that follow a phrase like that are bound to be meaningless.
Why meaningless? Those markings are not meaningless to the machines reading them. I think she did a good job explaining why the machines would reject those ballots, and put that together with the fact that ballots can be "adjudicated" for Biden en masse and Trump can be robbed wholesale, it kind of puts all the pieces together.
It showed exactly how they were able to kick so many votes out to be manually adjudicated - leaving it open for the votes to be switched from Trump to Biden.
In a tweet, or thread, characters are limited. You have to get to the point and add support for why you believe your opinion matters. Credentials help. It’s applied regularly in fields with interprofessional collaboration — when you go to the hospital, each specialty tells you who they are, what they do, and why they’re doing it. Hell, any time we want a problem solved by someone else we ask for proof of credentials via name/badge number, requesting a supervisor, asking for clarification of personnel’s role or extent of role in something, etc. Etc. Credentials matter for a lot of things, expect for Jill Biden lmao. She doesn’t teach or do jack shit where it would be logical to use her title. End rant
No one has to change what they say so you feel better about their message. 🤷🏻♀️ Not trying to be rude or snarky in any way, just don’t understand the need to pick at how others convey information, like lefties do with pronoun bullshit. Also, we’re having this discussion because you made a post and I responded — not because of her. She tweeted, but you made a post about it and I made the choice to comment. It’s on us, not her.
Sounds like this is a peeve of yours. Whatever. I too have a degree (BSCS -- not as lofty as your Masters), but I don't find someone stating their degree as pretentious in general. I just mentally skip over that and make a judgement on the content of their argument. If their argument is political, or obviously slanted, THEN I raise the 'pretentious' flag.
It is a 100% peeve of his. He fails the “theory of mind” test and can’t recognize that there are other people in the US (especially on Twitter) who want to know credentials. So, because he can’t stand it— it must not be taken seriously!! Sounds like leftie logic to me
Nope. I just stop listening when someone introduces themselves as hi, I'm a doctor. No tendies here. I stopped taking you seriously. And my attention goes elsewhere. Speaking of which I'm done talking about this.
I'm not talkin you, I'm just telling you this isn't for you. I don't need registration marks explain to me, and even if you do, I doubt you need widespread voter fraud examples anymore. I had my fill the day after the election already.😁
And to her point adding that she had a degree - lots of self taught graphic designers out there, who learned by watching YouTube videos. Nothing against them, but there are a lot of things you are taught in college about the technicalities of printing. Self taught designers probably wouldn't have a need to research that.
I concur. Professional design software (such as Adobe Illustrator, Photoshop, Indesign) allow you to print with Printer's Marks/Registration for making sure the print is properly aligned.
Also, having a design degree doesn't mean much. Trust me. I had interns who were clueless who were college seniors in renowned design schools because of the poor teaching.
The IT guy at my new job is a fucking wizard, everything runs smooth, no downtime, and from what the word is has been this way since he started.
He has never set foot on a college campus, all self-taught. I made him crack up when a co-worker was asking how to do a basic task and I remarked RTFM.
Yeah, I've seen it as well. Some people are good at design, programming, netsec, hell even engineering, and they don't need a fancy certificate.
Even myself—majority of work I did, even for massive corporations, all they cared about was my work.
Don't get me wrong, there are tricks you can learn with teaching. You can also learn pitfalls from those with experience and get access to machinery that may be cost-prohibitive. Self-teaching is seriously underrated. I wouldn't have survived this long if I hadn't taught myself most of what I know.
I am a firm advocate for eliminating affirmative action and bringing back apprenticeships and also figuring out in middle school and high school what each kid is good at and preparing them for real-world application of their talents.
your shit is bitrchmade, you can't even link properly and you use a memgenerator because you're too fucking lazy to have your own meme folder. I would call you a shill but that would be giving you too much credit. I would call you a leftist but that would be giving you too much credence. But a faggot? yeah, definitely.
I think the key here is she is an old school graphic designer, before the days of automated registration marks. I've been a GD for 25 years, and remember the days of 4 files for everything and making sure those marks were matched up perfectly. Now the automation that is built into graphic design software is something most designers don't even think about. For the registration to be off in this day in age, it had to be intentional, and no way possible for it to be a mistake.
Yeah, same here. I remember when I had to make all my mechanicals in picas and cmyk. :) Past 10 years most places are asking for RGB files instead.
Most things are printed digitally now so the marks are more for initial alignment and cropping than anything (I assume) and maybe to check for color accuracy with the swatches, unless you're doing an offset print for larger runs or specific specialty project. I haven't actually done print work in some time. I think you still have to do color separation of digital files for silk screens since it's a multi-stage process.
I remember going to print shops years ago when they were making the glass plates for a project, smelling the ink in the air and seeing the ink rollers and containers and the dude with black hands in bummy clothes, looking like a mechanic. Good times.
My only point about the degree for graphic design is it doesn't add to credentials more often than not—you can suck at it and still get a degree. If it was more than 20 years ago, it probably has way more merit.
Also the "welI"...The word "Republican" was printed with a capital "i" instead of a lower case "L" so that the machine would skip Trump in the "straight party" selection
If they normally have 1% adjudicated and they were having 90% go to adjudication this election, how would they have enough staff to do that much adjudication unless this was all planned out in advance (not just an innocent mistake with the printing)?
You know, a simple way to stop all this crap would be to require adjudicated ballots to be judged by representatives from BOTH parties, and then have a mutually trusted arbitrator to resolve conflicts if they still exist, instead of by an obscure bureaucrat sitting in a back room somewhere.
Also, we live in the information age. There is no reason why images of ballots can't be posted online, with identifiers marked out, and adjudications appended. That would put an end to this crap once and for all.
First they rigged the ballots early on so someone would have to manually pass every Trump vote through adjudication in the Republican areas after they all failed to scan.
That wasn't enough so votes started getting adjusted between candidates in the computer tallies.
That wasn't enough so poll watchers weren't allowed to observe signatures on the mail-ins.
That wasn't enough so they stopped counting until watchers were gone anf pulled ballots from under the table to run them through the scanners multiple times.
Oh look, a razor-thin win! For Pete's sake was there ANYONE in the state of Georgia that actually cast a vote for Biden?!
I have a receipt and document scanner that can accurately convert tiny crumpled pieces of paper into text. Yeah, Imma believe that them "machines" can't accurately read preprinted, pre-designed specifically for that purpose documents. Uh-huh, sure, okay.
As a Graphic Designer with a degree, I didn’t understand why so many ballots were spit out as unreadable by the voting machines on November 3rd. But after watching Jovan Pulitzers testimony today in Georgia I now completely understand. Let me explain..
As a graphic designer all elements/layers of my design must line up in order to print on the paper properly. Otherwise it can put out blurred images on the final product at the printing shop. The printing machines follow something put on my art/documents
called “Registration Marks”. Every student in Graphic Designer in college is stressed that these are never to be off or you are wasting the printers time and the clients time. Which is very bad, graphic designers get fired for this.
Back in the old days when we did this work by hand it was easy to make these mistakes, before the computers...I’m dating myself here because that’s when I started...before computers. Now I design everything on computers that go to a printer.
On computer software, say photoshop for example, we no longer make these mistakes because the software sets all registration marks electronically every time in every layer of our art/document. In Mr. Pulitzers testimony he points out that
the Registration Marks (he called bullseye/target) are not lined up in the predominantly Republican areas voters voting papers. And he shows you that the Democratic areas voters voting papers are perfectly accurate Registration Marks. See below
You can see the Republican areas voter documents were off on the Registration Marks. Very off. Because these are documents meant to be scanned by a counter, those bad Registration Marks will toss the document out as uncountable.
Why was this print run allowed to proceed? Any print manager would have seen this in the printers proof and rejected the print run. How did the Registration Marks get misaligned?
Who printed these ballots? I have more that a few questions for them, like who designed these Republican areas ballots? Why weren’t they corrected? Why are the missing barcodes on the Democrat ballots? I can think of many more questions. I bet you can too.
I bet I’m not the only Graphic Designer out there today to make this connection finally to the tabulation machines rejection rates now.
I really appreciated this ultra-scientist nerd using car mechanic layman's
language to easily explain this, so even those hog raisin', tobacco spitters in the Ga. Senate could not fake misunderstanding him.
Replying to my own post, from the twatter thread. Is this correct?
There is only one ballot. The Democrat choices are separated from the Republican choices on the ballot. So you have a Republican side of the ballot and a Democrat side.
I think I read 130,000 abs. ballots, 109,000 of those went to adjudication. Inodatrite.
Yeah.. as soon as she qualified herself 'with a degree' i wrote it off. The rest of the words that follow a phrase like that are bound to be meaningless.
Why meaningless? Those markings are not meaningless to the machines reading them. I think she did a good job explaining why the machines would reject those ballots, and put that together with the fact that ballots can be "adjudicated" for Biden en masse and Trump can be robbed wholesale, it kind of puts all the pieces together.
I didnt bother reading past the puffery. It's pretentious.
I went back and looked though and i get what shes saying. Ive seen those marks. I understand CYMB print process. I get it.
ed: sincerely, master in electrical engineering
The reality is strangers want to know your qualifications before they believe you.
I only reject people's opinions who fail to provide an argument and use their title itself as a counter argument.
Nurses do this for Covid constantly to dismiss facts they don't like. This woman seemed to jump right into an explanation.
Agreed 100%
Hey, me too!
Only a EE would get this joke.
That testimony was outstanding.
It showed exactly how they were able to kick so many votes out to be manually adjudicated - leaving it open for the votes to be switched from Trump to Biden.
Trump Won The Election
That joke drove Einstein nuts
I had that tee shirt.
So did I, our IEEE chapter at my college had them made. I kept mine for many years and only recently got rid of it.
So the 40 years of experience doesn't mean anything to you? Maybe think about taking your brain off autopilot for a bit.
Exactly lol. By his standards Jovan Pulitzer’s credentials are bullshit too right
When the first words out of your mouth are credentials i stop listening. Get someone else to stroke you off.
sincerely, masters in electrical engineering
I get turned off by self stroking puffery too, but in a hearing setting I think they are just trying to establish their credentials for the audience.
I get it. My only point is if you want me to take you seriously don't introduce yourself as, hi, im a doctor. Hi, im not impressed. You know?
100% with you on that.
In a tweet, or thread, characters are limited. You have to get to the point and add support for why you believe your opinion matters. Credentials help. It’s applied regularly in fields with interprofessional collaboration — when you go to the hospital, each specialty tells you who they are, what they do, and why they’re doing it. Hell, any time we want a problem solved by someone else we ask for proof of credentials via name/badge number, requesting a supervisor, asking for clarification of personnel’s role or extent of role in something, etc. Etc. Credentials matter for a lot of things, expect for Jill Biden lmao. She doesn’t teach or do jack shit where it would be logical to use her title. End rant
If she would have just said graphic designer I would have never commented on it and we would never be having this discussion
No one has to change what they say so you feel better about their message. 🤷🏻♀️ Not trying to be rude or snarky in any way, just don’t understand the need to pick at how others convey information, like lefties do with pronoun bullshit. Also, we’re having this discussion because you made a post and I responded — not because of her. She tweeted, but you made a post about it and I made the choice to comment. It’s on us, not her.
Xir is an EE. EEs are either autistic or retarded and most of them lack any sort of creativity.
>They're just smarter than computer scientists
😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂
I thought the rest of the thread was dumb... but then there is this guy. Must be an EE CS reject...
So, you get pegged with a soldering iron according to a CAD?
Tendies
Go cry to your mommy about it.
Oh hush. She makes sense.
I responded to a previous post that i went back and read it and i get it. It makes sense.
sincerely, masters in electrical engineering
Now who's being pretentious?
So you get my point.
Lmao
You've poked everyone with it enough.
Sounds like this is a peeve of yours. Whatever. I too have a degree (BSCS -- not as lofty as your Masters), but I don't find someone stating their degree as pretentious in general. I just mentally skip over that and make a judgement on the content of their argument. If their argument is political, or obviously slanted, THEN I raise the 'pretentious' flag.
You're entitled to your own opinion of course.
It is a 100% peeve of his. He fails the “theory of mind” test and can’t recognize that there are other people in the US (especially on Twitter) who want to know credentials. So, because he can’t stand it— it must not be taken seriously!! Sounds like leftie logic to me
Nope. I just stop listening when someone introduces themselves as hi, I'm a doctor. No tendies here. I stopped taking you seriously. And my attention goes elsewhere. Speaking of which I'm done talking about this.
Actually no. One represents the standard sharing of your background expected of anyone of testifies. Yours was distracting, irrelevant snark.
Why are you here? If you want somebody else to do your thinking for you, the Deep state offers media in every political stripe.
They'll actually clap for comments like this.🤷♂️👍
Whats with all the tendies in this shop?
If you want me to take you seriously, don't introduce yourself as, hi I'm a doctor
I'm not talkin you, I'm just telling you this isn't for you. I don't need registration marks explain to me, and even if you do, I doubt you need widespread voter fraud examples anymore. I had my fill the day after the election already.😁
Its alright fren. Im exhausted talking about this.
Why would ANYONE care about whether you take them seriously or not? If anyone submits to your petty tyranny I feel sorry for them. Get well soon.
As a graphic designer with a degree - I fact checked her and everything she stated was 100% correct.
And to her point adding that she had a degree - lots of self taught graphic designers out there, who learned by watching YouTube videos. Nothing against them, but there are a lot of things you are taught in college about the technicalities of printing. Self taught designers probably wouldn't have a need to research that.
See my other post. I went back and read it. I understand what she's saying. I get it understand cymb print process and I don't have a degree in it.
sincerely, masters in electrical engineering
Cool.
The process is called CMYK by the way.
BAHAHAHA THANK YOU FOR PUTTING HIM IN HIS PLACE
Answer that riddle yet, salty?
Black... whatever. I said i didnt have a degree in it.
Total chicanery! This is like the 9th way Democrats tried to cheat!
I concur. Professional design software (such as Adobe Illustrator, Photoshop, Indesign) allow you to print with Printer's Marks/Registration for making sure the print is properly aligned.
Also, having a design degree doesn't mean much. Trust me. I had interns who were clueless who were college seniors in renowned design schools because of the poor teaching.
The IT guy at my new job is a fucking wizard, everything runs smooth, no downtime, and from what the word is has been this way since he started.
He has never set foot on a college campus, all self-taught. I made him crack up when a co-worker was asking how to do a basic task and I remarked RTFM.
Yeah, I've seen it as well. Some people are good at design, programming, netsec, hell even engineering, and they don't need a fancy certificate.
Even myself—majority of work I did, even for massive corporations, all they cared about was my work.
Don't get me wrong, there are tricks you can learn with teaching. You can also learn pitfalls from those with experience and get access to machinery that may be cost-prohibitive. Self-teaching is seriously underrated. I wouldn't have survived this long if I hadn't taught myself most of what I know.
I am a firm advocate for eliminating affirmative action and bringing back apprenticeships and also figuring out in middle school and high school what each kid is good at and preparing them for real-world application of their talents.
rant over :P
https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/53553527/cool-story-bro-totally-changed-my-life.jpg
your shit is bitrchmade, you can't even link properly and you use a memgenerator because you're too fucking lazy to have your own meme folder. I would call you a shill but that would be giving you too much credit. I would call you a leftist but that would be giving you too much credence. But a faggot? yeah, definitely.
lol dude, settle
Cope harder, shitbag.
I think the key here is she is an old school graphic designer, before the days of automated registration marks. I've been a GD for 25 years, and remember the days of 4 files for everything and making sure those marks were matched up perfectly. Now the automation that is built into graphic design software is something most designers don't even think about. For the registration to be off in this day in age, it had to be intentional, and no way possible for it to be a mistake.
Yeah, same here. I remember when I had to make all my mechanicals in picas and cmyk. :) Past 10 years most places are asking for RGB files instead.
Most things are printed digitally now so the marks are more for initial alignment and cropping than anything (I assume) and maybe to check for color accuracy with the swatches, unless you're doing an offset print for larger runs or specific specialty project. I haven't actually done print work in some time. I think you still have to do color separation of digital files for silk screens since it's a multi-stage process.
I remember going to print shops years ago when they were making the glass plates for a project, smelling the ink in the air and seeing the ink rollers and containers and the dude with black hands in bummy clothes, looking like a mechanic. Good times.
My only point about the degree for graphic design is it doesn't add to credentials more often than not—you can suck at it and still get a degree. If it was more than 20 years ago, it probably has way more merit.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-eI9qVSbVmnZb6FojMpG914ys48H9Y8dOjrWTJq096Y/mobilebasic
Here is the PDF she posted of the full thread so you don’t have to deal with Twitter’s crap.
Also the "welI"...The word "Republican" was printed with a capital "i" instead of a lower case "L" so that the machine would skip Trump in the "straight party" selection
Huh
If they normally have 1% adjudicated and they were having 90% go to adjudication this election, how would they have enough staff to do that much adjudication unless this was all planned out in advance (not just an innocent mistake with the printing)?
You know, a simple way to stop all this crap would be to require adjudicated ballots to be judged by representatives from BOTH parties, and then have a mutually trusted arbitrator to resolve conflicts if they still exist, instead of by an obscure bureaucrat sitting in a back room somewhere.
Also, we live in the information age. There is no reason why images of ballots can't be posted online, with identifiers marked out, and adjudications appended. That would put an end to this crap once and for all.
Hmm
First they rigged the ballots early on so someone would have to manually pass every Trump vote through adjudication in the Republican areas after they all failed to scan.
That wasn't enough so votes started getting adjusted between candidates in the computer tallies.
That wasn't enough so poll watchers weren't allowed to observe signatures on the mail-ins.
That wasn't enough so they stopped counting until watchers were gone anf pulled ballots from under the table to run them through the scanners multiple times.
Oh look, a razor-thin win! For Pete's sake was there ANYONE in the state of Georgia that actually cast a vote for Biden?!
I have a receipt and document scanner that can accurately convert tiny crumpled pieces of paper into text. Yeah, Imma believe that them "machines" can't accurately read preprinted, pre-designed specifically for that purpose documents. Uh-huh, sure, okay.
As a Graphic Designer with a degree, I didn’t understand why so many ballots were spit out as unreadable by the voting machines on November 3rd. But after watching Jovan Pulitzers testimony today in Georgia I now completely understand. Let me explain..
As a graphic designer all elements/layers of my design must line up in order to print on the paper properly. Otherwise it can put out blurred images on the final product at the printing shop. The printing machines follow something put on my art/documents
called “Registration Marks”. Every student in Graphic Designer in college is stressed that these are never to be off or you are wasting the printers time and the clients time. Which is very bad, graphic designers get fired for this.
Back in the old days when we did this work by hand it was easy to make these mistakes, before the computers...I’m dating myself here because that’s when I started...before computers. Now I design everything on computers that go to a printer.
On computer software, say photoshop for example, we no longer make these mistakes because the software sets all registration marks electronically every time in every layer of our art/document. In Mr. Pulitzers testimony he points out that
the Registration Marks (he called bullseye/target) are not lined up in the predominantly Republican areas voters voting papers. And he shows you that the Democratic areas voters voting papers are perfectly accurate Registration Marks. See below
You can see the Republican areas voter documents were off on the Registration Marks. Very off. Because these are documents meant to be scanned by a counter, those bad Registration Marks will toss the document out as uncountable.
Why was this print run allowed to proceed? Any print manager would have seen this in the printers proof and rejected the print run. How did the Registration Marks get misaligned?
Who printed these ballots? I have more that a few questions for them, like who designed these Republican areas ballots? Why weren’t they corrected? Why are the missing barcodes on the Democrat ballots? I can think of many more questions. I bet you can too.
I bet I’m not the only Graphic Designer out there today to make this connection finally to the tabulation machines rejection rates now.
Jovan Pulitzer’s testimony today if you want to watch. https://youtu.be/_PpyoYlGqBg
I really appreciated this ultra-scientist nerd using car mechanic layman's language to easily explain this, so even those hog raisin', tobacco spitters in the Ga. Senate could not fake misunderstanding him.
Simple as Momms's corn bread.
Why is there such a thing as "Republican Ballots" anyway? I can see it for the Primaries, but what the heck?
Replying to my own post, from the twatter thread. Is this correct?
There is only one ballot. The Democrat choices are separated from the Republican choices on the ballot. So you have a Republican side of the ballot and a Democrat side.
It is part of the fraud scheme. It should be one ballot for all.
I made the mistake of falling deep into Twatter comments. There are SO MANY IDIOTS in this clown world of ours.
CYA? Well, Stacey Abrams will have to go to Home Depot and buy a tarp.
I have a degree. Where's my trophy?
debt
Degree is just a pass to get in the room. What you do once you get in the room is up to you.