IMO it hasn't been tested enough to determine potential long term complications.
From a more broad perspective, I feel like we can't lose sight of the possibility that the whole COVID thing was just a method to railroad mandatory medical treatment which is potentially a slippery slope and could be used by nefarious forces to, for example, cull the citizenry based on certain DNA. Scary stuff. I'm not saying that is what it is, I'm suggesting we have to be cautious. Caution and haste are rarely correlated except inversely.
This is the first pandemic of our generation. Every major global event carries with it risks and opportunities for nefarious forces to push their agendas. We've never had to deal with a pandemic on this scale in the digital age before.
But the vaccine isn't the enemy. The enemy are the shit viruses coming from China every few years, which we NEED to get a better handle on. Medicine is the solution, not lockdowns, not other half-assed or tyrannical crap. There are a lot of pedes working on them (I've made no secret here and in my post history that I am from Oxford, home of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19.)
There's a massive, MASSIVE amount of people working on this to ensure it's safe. Feel free to navigate our studies and read about it: https://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/
Someone's gotta try solutions, unless you just want to let China win, because I assure you the death rate of this thing is higher than that of flus and colds. And there's every possibility that this is pandemic on easy mode and something far worse, like the original SARS will come from there. And then what? MRNA vaccines can be made in a week - they can protect us if they send us something really lethal.
You think people weren't scared of antibiotics? And every subsequent medical treatment that was created, which ended up saving lives? Yes, it's scary at first, but someone's gotta do it, so that we can progress. We've had tens of thousands of volunteers that we've tested this on, and deemed it safe. Do you think Ibuprofen or Paracetamol or literally any popular medication don't have side effects in some percentage of the population? Literally anything we ingest does some bad somewhere, especially in the long term. But medicines do a lot of good too.
Good thing we have people that read the internet to tell off the scientists. They might spend their whole lives studying but that doesn’t matter if they don’t read free info on the internet.
Feel free to take it. I'll feel free to not take it and to let willing others be the guinea pigs until long term side-effects are truly known.
An engineered virus is not going to get me to take a hastily turned around vaccine, nor submit to forced medical treatment, even just out of principle.
I had covid-19 and it was more mild than the mildest flu I've ever had. It was merely a blip on the radar. The mortality rate once contracted for anyone under 50 is something like 5 in 10,000. I'll take my chances. IMO vulnerable people should consider the known risks of covid and the known and unknown risks of these new vaccines and weigh them. I don't see how for young healthy people there's even a question aside from the unknown long term implications of actually contracting it which are easily balanced by the same for the vaccine itself. In the case of the vaccine you are ensuring exposure while otherwise you're at some less than 100% risk of actually contracting it.
IMO it hasn't been tested enough to determine potential long term complications.
From a more broad perspective, I feel like we can't lose sight of the possibility that the whole COVID thing was just a method to railroad mandatory medical treatment which is potentially a slippery slope and could be used by nefarious forces to, for example, cull the citizenry based on certain DNA. Scary stuff. I'm not saying that is what it is, I'm suggesting we have to be cautious. Caution and haste are rarely correlated except inversely.
This is the first pandemic of our generation. Every major global event carries with it risks and opportunities for nefarious forces to push their agendas. We've never had to deal with a pandemic on this scale in the digital age before.
But the vaccine isn't the enemy. The enemy are the shit viruses coming from China every few years, which we NEED to get a better handle on. Medicine is the solution, not lockdowns, not other half-assed or tyrannical crap. There are a lot of pedes working on them (I've made no secret here and in my post history that I am from Oxford, home of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19.)
There's a massive, MASSIVE amount of people working on this to ensure it's safe. Feel free to navigate our studies and read about it: https://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/
Someone's gotta try solutions, unless you just want to let China win, because I assure you the death rate of this thing is higher than that of flus and colds. And there's every possibility that this is pandemic on easy mode and something far worse, like the original SARS will come from there. And then what? MRNA vaccines can be made in a week - they can protect us if they send us something really lethal.
You think people weren't scared of antibiotics? And every subsequent medical treatment that was created, which ended up saving lives? Yes, it's scary at first, but someone's gotta do it, so that we can progress. We've had tens of thousands of volunteers that we've tested this on, and deemed it safe. Do you think Ibuprofen or Paracetamol or literally any popular medication don't have side effects in some percentage of the population? Literally anything we ingest does some bad somewhere, especially in the long term. But medicines do a lot of good too.
This is not a pandemic any more than H1N1 or any flu strain is.
Good thing we have people that read the internet to tell off the scientists. They might spend their whole lives studying but that doesn’t matter if they don’t read free info on the internet.
Feel free to take it. I'll feel free to not take it and to let willing others be the guinea pigs until long term side-effects are truly known.
An engineered virus is not going to get me to take a hastily turned around vaccine, nor submit to forced medical treatment, even just out of principle.
I had covid-19 and it was more mild than the mildest flu I've ever had. It was merely a blip on the radar. The mortality rate once contracted for anyone under 50 is something like 5 in 10,000. I'll take my chances. IMO vulnerable people should consider the known risks of covid and the known and unknown risks of these new vaccines and weigh them. I don't see how for young healthy people there's even a question aside from the unknown long term implications of actually contracting it which are easily balanced by the same for the vaccine itself. In the case of the vaccine you are ensuring exposure while otherwise you're at some less than 100% risk of actually contracting it.