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LostMyAccount -12 points ago +11 / -23

Christianity has been feminizing European culture for 2000 years.

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DoubleEagle 6 points ago +7 / -1

Ok, I'll bite... How?

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LostMyAccount 4 points ago +12 / -8

Replacing ancient traditions that emphasized lineage and group identity with a foreign, cucked ideology where everyone is "equal" and the deity prefers a group that hates you (he totally changed his mind, guys, even though they say otherwise).

I could literally go on for pages. It's simple enough to say: nothing good came from Christianity and plenty of bad did. Anything good inside it came from outside and has been successively stripped as we entered the modern era.

And before you start telling me it's all atheists' fault our society is collapsing, despite the fact the collapse started at least over a hundred years ago, there weren't even atheists as a concept before Christianity. It simply was not how people thought. Much like socialism, it is essentially an outgrowth of Christian thought.

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HeIsVigo 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is ignorant. "Replaced...Lineage and group identity with a foreign cucked ideology..." Romans granted citizenship to all free people in the Empire in 212 ad Edict of Caracalla. Not just people with a connection to Rome through birth but all free men whether Cilician, Pontian, Greek, Phoenician, Iberian, Gallic, etc. They were closer to civic nationalism rather than ethnic nationalism in modern terms. Don't get me started on the barbarian tribes that overthrew Western Rome. They were a mishmash of tribes united in plunder until they staked proper land in the fallen Western Empire.

The idea was that called "Civitas" and beyond being a polity was an embraced acceptance of Romaness (stretching back to Greek philosophy that Roman's admired...weird for ethnic chauvinists as you believe) divorced from tribal thinking and whim and based on subordination of base impulses and loyalties to adherence of written law and regulations and a divine order. Especially the respect and protection of property. Order that was further enshrined by Christian thinking in the Late Empire.

Without Christian monks much of the learning and works of the Greco Roman era would've been lost. Not to mention that from Augustine to Aquinas all Christian philosophers saw themselves as stewards of this ancient ideal based on reason and betterment. That despite our fleshly and sinful nature we could build ourselves up towards the divine. Man can overcome his base nature through discipline and reason. An idea from the Greeks to Romans to Western Christians.

This thought was different from the Greeks in that all who worked towards salvation could attain it where Greek thought was only aristocrats with proper gnosis and education could achieve a triumph over their base nature. It did not mean all were equal but that all had a chance, through faith and work, to overcome their base barbarism.

Nevermind the immense success of Christian Europe in defending against Islam, Persia, pacifying Barbarian tribes during their rapine of the Western Empire, and producing societies that are the envy of the world. Nevermind that you're able to bash the religion that protected and allowed your dissent. You're right. Christians did nothing and contributed nothing. If only Martel had lost at Tours or the Arabs had crushed Constantinople in the 7th and not the mid 15th century. Truly the world would be better.