The pope betrays the autocephalous church in favor of a pope, with self ascribed divine powers under St. Peter’s soul somehow passing to him as the most “important” apostle and becoming “divine”.
It’s not only the the islamics and ottomans that took down the Byzantine empire. It’s also the pope. That crusader attack that happenstance slipped and fell and “accidentally” attacked the Byzantine empire, smells like Betrayal or like “Epstein didn’t kill himself”. Pope gave a nice little apology.
But the bigger point is that - the pope is the beginning of Neo aged western globalism, and ruling behind the shadows.
This very concept thriving leads to - independance of state and even averts Western Europe’s later religious independance wars of Catholic and Christian.
Autocephaly was a concept of nationalism - independent nation building - populist rule for the people - by the people of each region.
It stands for every single independance freedom movement - before it even needed to happen... this one act of the fall of Byzantine the true arbiters of our values - this is litteraly what USA fought for that led to independence in 1776..
While you are correct, the Byzantine, as we know them, knew themselves only as Roman. The entire concept of Byzantium is a modern invention designed to sheer the West from its roots. To save Rome one must go further back than the pope and cut slay the serpent like Hardrin.
Byzantine was a term used later and not by the east Roman Empire itself...
But it’s still important to understand that east Roman Empire and west Roman were still two distinct entities with different emperors.
East Rome was basically the region of greece and west Rome was the Italian region.
Also the church first formulated by Constantine was indeed called the Catholic Church... but... it has nothing to do with Catholicism of today. The original Catholic Church can only be found today (with autocephalad rule) in the modern day faith Christian Orthodoxy.
Christian orthodoxy is no different today as it was back then.
The terms Byzantine and even Catholics... has to be used under its modern day meanings - not out of correctness.. as you mentioned - but because the deception and changing meaning of Words and their understanding would cause people to be too confused, to get the correct message across.
So yes - subversion is a thing.. they succeeded.. and we can no longer revert because in explaining the correct message - people would be lost in their inability to understand. As such - what is dialogue if you say correct terms - but people understand a different history and reality to what actually happened.
I’d be using me time machine to save the Byzantine empire, from the ottomans. :)
Fuck the Ottomans.
Gonna have to go further back than that to save Rome.
Nope.
The pope betrays the autocephalous church in favor of a pope, with self ascribed divine powers under St. Peter’s soul somehow passing to him as the most “important” apostle and becoming “divine”.
It’s not only the the islamics and ottomans that took down the Byzantine empire. It’s also the pope. That crusader attack that happenstance slipped and fell and “accidentally” attacked the Byzantine empire, smells like Betrayal or like “Epstein didn’t kill himself”. Pope gave a nice little apology.
But the bigger point is that - the pope is the beginning of Neo aged western globalism, and ruling behind the shadows.
This very concept thriving leads to - independance of state and even averts Western Europe’s later religious independance wars of Catholic and Christian.
Autocephaly was a concept of nationalism - independent nation building - populist rule for the people - by the people of each region.
It stands for every single independance freedom movement - before it even needed to happen... this one act of the fall of Byzantine the true arbiters of our values - this is litteraly what USA fought for that led to independence in 1776..
https://www.britannica.com/topic/autocephalous-church
While you are correct, the Byzantine, as we know them, knew themselves only as Roman. The entire concept of Byzantium is a modern invention designed to sheer the West from its roots. To save Rome one must go further back than the pope and cut slay the serpent like Hardrin.
https://youtu.be/3kQRKhvxh34
Byzantine was a term used later and not by the east Roman Empire itself...
But it’s still important to understand that east Roman Empire and west Roman were still two distinct entities with different emperors.
East Rome was basically the region of greece and west Rome was the Italian region.
Also the church first formulated by Constantine was indeed called the Catholic Church... but... it has nothing to do with Catholicism of today. The original Catholic Church can only be found today (with autocephalad rule) in the modern day faith Christian Orthodoxy.
Christian orthodoxy is no different today as it was back then.
The terms Byzantine and even Catholics... has to be used under its modern day meanings - not out of correctness.. as you mentioned - but because the deception and changing meaning of Words and their understanding would cause people to be too confused, to get the correct message across.
So yes - subversion is a thing.. they succeeded.. and we can no longer revert because in explaining the correct message - people would be lost in their inability to understand. As such - what is dialogue if you say correct terms - but people understand a different history and reality to what actually happened.