This is a bought and paid for coup. The only way i see out is military action with some assistance by we the people on the 6th.
The globalists are intent on taking this election. They aren't going to let us win.
The executive order by Trump making election stealing with the aid of a foreign power treason is not a larp . he really signed that. He also put loyalists in charge of the DOD and other key positions recently.
That is our only road to victory IMO and if it doesn't happen all important elections will be rigged going forward. We will know soon.
For the second point, he clearly has planned. That does not equate to knowing what it is. We know the setup - he knew the vote switching, that the courts were corrupt and that the Senate was treasonous. This can be easily concluded from existing evidence, the President's statements from 2012 and this year, his statements of the courts in 2010 and that McConnell inhibited his appointments significantly. Knowing this, he would clearly have something set up. What it is, God and him only know, but one would have to be really fucking stupid to not have something set up, and the President is extremely intelligent and not retarded.
Yes, it is process, it had to be done to make sure congress followed the 12th amendment, they could have subverted with a law put into place after the constitution, this is to argue the constitution.
Yup. I still think it's going to come to Insurrection Act/EO/Military if it comes to anything. Regardless of what was in the NDAA, Trump can make a move if he wants to. Pence is a longshot and I won't invest any hope in that.
Trump won't do that either. Basically, between now and 1PM on the 6th Trump has to get his few allies in government to release their krackens, and if not, oh well. That said, I'll be there. And if Trump calls, I'll do my part whatever that might be.
Agreed. He wouldn’t have cared if the lawsuit wasn’t interfering in some sort of plans they’ve got going. He had to end it quick so their plan wouldn’t be impeded.
My general concern is that if Pence actually his that much power, what is to stop a democrat VP from pulling the same thing for no reason. Where is the safeguard against doing whatever you want if you are the VP when counting the votes?
Something doesn't make sense about the law. If the VP has that much power (opening or picking which states he deems legit), can't his party practically hold the presidency forever as long as 26 of the state House are in his party? So let's say VP is in Party A, they lose all 50 states in the presidential election, but the House in 26 of those states belong to Party A, then the VP can just reject all 50 states (or even until the other party doesn't reach 270) and the POTUS for party A wins.
At that point, why even have presidential elections when the outcome is actually determined by the House and the sitting VP?
But Party A doesn't even need any electors (It's nice to have for formality reasons). At the end of the VP count/vote on Jan 6, you can have 269 electors for Party B and the rest of the electors were "not counted" by the VP. To win the presidency, you don't need more electors than the other party to win, but rather, you need the other party to not reach 270, so another process can take place. Party A can literally have zero electors. This then becomes a contingent election (no one got 270), House votes with 26 Party A votes, Party A POTUS wins.
"Thomas Jefferson ... among the most revered founding fathers of our country, only became President because he used his unilateral power as President of the Senate to open and count the presidential ballots in his own favor." There is Constitutional language and historical precedent that gives his Vice President the unilateral power to decide the outcome of our contested election.
Yes, a party could do that. They could also steal elections in more low-brow ways.
If a party did that, it would be accepted as the end of the Republic and the Constitution, and the start of a dictatorship. But if a party steals elections in a low-brow way and very obviously and brazenly, they will have to keep doing it in order to avoid Justice. So we're in the same boat either way.
Pence, if he does the right thing, won't be setting a precedent that the dems will eventually copy because the dems could always have been counted on doing this if it came to it, and they well might. Yes, they didn't in 2001, and they didn't in 2017. They didn't because they had to manage public opinion better, and they weren't quite there. Now they are and so they stole this election. That leaves us with nothing to lose, so Pence should do the right thing.
Will Pence? I don't know. I doubt it. We'll see. See you on the 6th!
We need gohmert to replace cornpop 😭
No Brakes!
This is a bought and paid for coup. The only way i see out is military action with some assistance by we the people on the 6th.
The globalists are intent on taking this election. They aren't going to let us win.
The executive order by Trump making election stealing with the aid of a foreign power treason is not a larp . he really signed that. He also put loyalists in charge of the DOD and other key positions recently.
That is our only road to victory IMO and if it doesn't happen all important elections will be rigged going forward. We will know soon.
He just rejected that the lawsuit was part of a plan. You are a liar if you continue to push that.
The President clearly has a plan of some kind. He obviously anticipated this scenario and is prepared. If you think otherwise, you are a moron.
You have not addressed your lying.
For the second point, he clearly has planned. That does not equate to knowing what it is. We know the setup - he knew the vote switching, that the courts were corrupt and that the Senate was treasonous. This can be easily concluded from existing evidence, the President's statements from 2012 and this year, his statements of the courts in 2010 and that McConnell inhibited his appointments significantly. Knowing this, he would clearly have something set up. What it is, God and him only know, but one would have to be really fucking stupid to not have something set up, and the President is extremely intelligent and not retarded.
Too many doomers, trust the plan, but be fucking aware! Eyes open pedes! The 6th is approaching
Be there... or be square!!!
I support this message
It's hope porn. They're addicted.
It's not long before a lot of people on this forum start sounding a lot like Stacey Grimace Abrams. Check that: It's already happened.
Why is having hope a bad thing? What is wrong with you?
Yes, it is process, it had to be done to make sure congress followed the 12th amendment, they could have subverted with a law put into place after the constitution, this is to argue the constitution.
Ok, don't look into it. Not my problem you don't get it.
This has nothing to do with the Q tards
Pence is a nothing burger, mark my words.
Yup. I still think it's going to come to Insurrection Act/EO/Military if it comes to anything. Regardless of what was in the NDAA, Trump can make a move if he wants to. Pence is a longshot and I won't invest any hope in that.
Remember how Pence caved on the Religious Freedom Bill. That's all you need to know about hanging any hope that Pence will do the right thing.
Trump won't do that either. Basically, between now and 1PM on the 6th Trump has to get his few allies in government to release their krackens, and if not, oh well. That said, I'll be there. And if Trump calls, I'll do my part whatever that might be.
We are 6 days away.
All will be revealed??
Never do tomorrow what you can postpone indefinitely
The House Rs can't be counted on to vote for Trump.
Absolutely.
Agreed. He wouldn’t have cared if the lawsuit wasn’t interfering in some sort of plans they’ve got going. He had to end it quick so their plan wouldn’t be impeded.
he looks like Cotton Hill. I wish I trusted him like I trust Cotton Hill.
My general concern is that if Pence actually his that much power, what is to stop a democrat VP from pulling the same thing for no reason. Where is the safeguard against doing whatever you want if you are the VP when counting the votes?
this guy has always reeked of deep state to me, hope , pray am wrong
It's not the 'Plan' - it's plan Y already.
Plan A-X has been used up 😆
Something doesn't make sense about the law. If the VP has that much power (opening or picking which states he deems legit), can't his party practically hold the presidency forever as long as 26 of the state House are in his party? So let's say VP is in Party A, they lose all 50 states in the presidential election, but the House in 26 of those states belong to Party A, then the VP can just reject all 50 states (or even until the other party doesn't reach 270) and the POTUS for party A wins.
At that point, why even have presidential elections when the outcome is actually determined by the House and the sitting VP?
But Party A doesn't even need any electors (It's nice to have for formality reasons). At the end of the VP count/vote on Jan 6, you can have 269 electors for Party B and the rest of the electors were "not counted" by the VP. To win the presidency, you don't need more electors than the other party to win, but rather, you need the other party to not reach 270, so another process can take place. Party A can literally have zero electors. This then becomes a contingent election (no one got 270), House votes with 26 Party A votes, Party A POTUS wins.
https://macris.substack.com/p/who-counts-the-votes-of-the-presidential
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/its_for_mike_pence_to_judge_whether_a_presidential_election_was_held_at_all.html
Yes, a party could do that. They could also steal elections in more low-brow ways.
If a party did that, it would be accepted as the end of the Republic and the Constitution, and the start of a dictatorship. But if a party steals elections in a low-brow way and very obviously and brazenly, they will have to keep doing it in order to avoid Justice. So we're in the same boat either way.
Pence, if he does the right thing, won't be setting a precedent that the dems will eventually copy because the dems could always have been counted on doing this if it came to it, and they well might. Yes, they didn't in 2001, and they didn't in 2017. They didn't because they had to manage public opinion better, and they weren't quite there. Now they are and so they stole this election. That leaves us with nothing to lose, so Pence should do the right thing.
Will Pence? I don't know. I doubt it. We'll see. See you on the 6th!
They chose the spying on Trump's campaign and sabotaging him with corrupt FBI, CIA and NSA route. But I am sure that's just a conspiracy theory.
Let’s just wear our vagina hats together and speak Chinese to each other while we dye our hair pink and green.
do ‘t forget those betas love to pretend they are gender fluid and genetics don’t matter
It’s amazing how many of these retards downvoted you because they can’t handle the truth.