As far as I know, the later time span of the Roman republic, and most of the time span of the Roman empire, did very much have fights to the death to various degrees, including for entertainment, especially the Roman empire. But the infiltration had become more and more and more thorough by those periods of time. That said, a number of gladiator fights were indeed bloodless, and a number only involved blunted weapons or wooden swords.
I am not certain, but it seems that in many of the cases of the fights to the death, the people involved were criminals or enemy captured soldiers condemned to death, and instead of executing them, they gave them a chance to fight for their lives in the arenas, which as far as I can tell mostly gave them false hope and was an overall wretched, cruel and evil way (including for entertainment purposes the later you go in the life of the Roman state) of executing them. And then letting some of them go afterwards if they succeed... if you have a criminal that did something extremely evil and heinous, then letting them go if they happen to succeed as a gladiator... and if you think a foreign soldier can be let go after succeeding in the arena, shouldn't you let him go in the first place (possibly after holding him ransom, work, or similar)?
What seems very much curious is that for some of the gladiator fights, including some of the fights to the death, it involved volunteers. And for gladiators that fought well, possibly whatever their background, they got rewards and in later times wealth and fame.
The Gladiators are a complex subject, of course, cuz obviously, they were around for a long ass time to give them time to change and evolve or devolve.
It's hard to call the false hope of making them fight for freedom cruel and wretched. We can see even now, how many patriots seriously would want antifa and blm thugs to be given the same treatment, not without reason.
The actual letting them go I question how often it happened. It's a fascinating and like most of rome, hard to actually know what was real, or embellishment, piece of history, for what was basically the precursor for modern wrestling and the like. Can't imagine the story lines they weaved back then being much different than modern wrestlings' hilariously bad scripts.
Well not really. Ancient Greeks wrestling is like, actual Olympic Wrestling. An actual martial art still used. I suppose I should've said "Professional" Wrestling, which of course as every one knows, is just glorified big dumb drama shows for men to watch and enjoy.
In a sense, it was sort of a precursor? But not really to the modernized "Pro" Wrestling Scene. You'd see a lot more similarities between the early gladiator fights and say, Hulk Hogan, or GEOTUS punching Steve McMan in the face, lol.
And those punishments might be appropriate, but it doesn't really matter anymore what's appropriate. Like Vlad, people today want to set an example, and well, you'd best prepare to see some evil shit done in the name of Justice, cuz sometimes, in periods of history like our modern decade, shit like that happens.
Yup. Gladiators were basically glorified Wrestling matches. Still had the arenas used for public executions and such however.
As far as I know, the later time span of the Roman republic, and most of the time span of the Roman empire, did very much have fights to the death to various degrees, including for entertainment, especially the Roman empire. But the infiltration had become more and more and more thorough by those periods of time. That said, a number of gladiator fights were indeed bloodless, and a number only involved blunted weapons or wooden swords.
I am not certain, but it seems that in many of the cases of the fights to the death, the people involved were criminals or enemy captured soldiers condemned to death, and instead of executing them, they gave them a chance to fight for their lives in the arenas, which as far as I can tell mostly gave them false hope and was an overall wretched, cruel and evil way (including for entertainment purposes the later you go in the life of the Roman state) of executing them. And then letting some of them go afterwards if they succeed... if you have a criminal that did something extremely evil and heinous, then letting them go if they happen to succeed as a gladiator... and if you think a foreign soldier can be let go after succeeding in the arena, shouldn't you let him go in the first place (possibly after holding him ransom, work, or similar)?
What seems very much curious is that for some of the gladiator fights, including some of the fights to the death, it involved volunteers. And for gladiators that fought well, possibly whatever their background, they got rewards and in later times wealth and fame.
The Gladiators are a complex subject, of course, cuz obviously, they were around for a long ass time to give them time to change and evolve or devolve.
It's hard to call the false hope of making them fight for freedom cruel and wretched. We can see even now, how many patriots seriously would want antifa and blm thugs to be given the same treatment, not without reason.
The actual letting them go I question how often it happened. It's a fascinating and like most of rome, hard to actually know what was real, or embellishment, piece of history, for what was basically the precursor for modern wrestling and the like. Can't imagine the story lines they weaved back then being much different than modern wrestlings' hilariously bad scripts.
I would think that prison, execution or permanent deportation would make much, much more sense, depending on what their crimes were. Murdering innocents? Execution. Helping Antifa do terror and murder? Execution. Raping children like one of the wretches attacking Kyle Rittenhouse (see https://web.archive.org/web/20200827203225/https://inmatedatasearch.azcorrections.gov/PrintInmate.aspx?ID=172556 and https://s3.amazonaws.com/jnswire/jns-media/57/7f/11464076/rosenbaumrecords.pdf )? Execution. Helping Antifa in other regards? Possibly permanent deportation.
Another precursor was the ancient Greeks' wrestling, right?
Well not really. Ancient Greeks wrestling is like, actual Olympic Wrestling. An actual martial art still used. I suppose I should've said "Professional" Wrestling, which of course as every one knows, is just glorified big dumb drama shows for men to watch and enjoy.
In a sense, it was sort of a precursor? But not really to the modernized "Pro" Wrestling Scene. You'd see a lot more similarities between the early gladiator fights and say, Hulk Hogan, or GEOTUS punching Steve McMan in the face, lol.
And those punishments might be appropriate, but it doesn't really matter anymore what's appropriate. Like Vlad, people today want to set an example, and well, you'd best prepare to see some evil shit done in the name of Justice, cuz sometimes, in periods of history like our modern decade, shit like that happens.