Can confirm, my brother works at Home Depot, the shipping boxes say the cargo is from China but inside the products are marked Made in America. Sometimes its more deceptive and just has a USA sticker. Wth?!
Yes its crazy. And some are just a deceptive sticker like USA with an American flag but no actual claim to have been manufactured or assembled in the USA. Something else my brother said, the shipments from China never slowed down, not once , not even at the start of the covid panic.
I try hard not to buy stuff Made in China, but sometimes have no choice. But if it has an American flag, or "USA" on it, with "Made in China" in a tiny font somewhere, it goes straight back on the shelf. Period.
I like to look for old tools at estate stores and "garage sale" stores and antique stores. There's usually at least one booth in those big vintage malls which is all tools. You can just pick stuff up and without looking, know it was made in America back in the day when things were built with integrity. Will be good for another generation or more.
This is what I do. Many of these tools are rusted, but work just fine with some oil and wirebrushing. Others need a little more work, but good tools can't be had at any price new today.
likewise you can find really nice American made tools at small pawn stores....they usually have an isle of tools to choose from and you can haggle plenty knowing they got them for next to nothing from desperate sellers.
I mean I get it, dudes trying to make money. It’s just annoying at times. He’s obviously doing very well by the looks of his new property! I have a feeling he’s a Pede as well, at least I like to think that
Just find the land and buy it and start going for it. I bought 6 acres at a tax forfeiture auction 2 years ago and I still live in town and slowly developing it. Hopefully this summer I will my place in town and move out to the woods. Land prices are only gonna go up, especially with people fleeing cities.
agreed, I have been avoiding them as much as possible this year. Only problem is you have to be careful with other "cheap" brands most of that shit is from China too.
Buy the Icon stuff. Pretty nice tools for the money. The sockets I’ve bought are pretty damned close to the Snap on ones I have for a fraction of the price. The Pittsburg stuff is fine for most people, but if you use tools in your profession they should be avoided.
Japanese plastic that has been folded over 1000 times is pretty good, yeah. Also a fan of Bosch, it's damn hard to find any of the shit actually made in Germany these days but at least the outsourced manufacturing doesn't end up in China. Really as long as it isn't Chinese bullshit I don't rightly give too much of a fuck who made it, since the sad truth is it's really difficult to find American made tools now. Klein is outsourcing, Channel Lock is outsourcing, I miss the days when all the best tools came out of America and you could go to Sears and buy Black and Decker and it was actually good.
For personal tools that aren't supplied by the contractor I usually try and scour some shit like Craigslist/ebay/whatever for something old that was actually made in America. I love restored sets of pliers like this and it's been a dream of mine for a while to set up a machine shop in my garage and do that kind of shit myself. A lot of the money I had set aside for shit like that got eaten up this year because of the god damn branch covidians and I hope they all die of AIDS for ruining all of our lives with this ridiculous bullshit. I had the coof in January and I got over it after having a fever for a week. Didn't even know I had it until I donated blood in the summer and they let me know I had antibodies for it. Yet my life was fucked to pieces just like everybody else's.
Most of the tools from reputable tool makers who have tool made in china, design and test their stuff in the first world but then make them in China with western oversight to make sure QA is up to scratch. The shit stuff which breaks soon after buying are the no name brands or some other Yum Cha name on the device...those are the ones you do not want left plugged into to garage wall power socket as you may come back to a pile of ashes.
Most of the tools from reputable tool makers who have tool made in china, design and test their stuff in the first world but then make them in China with western oversight to make sure QA is up to scratch
yeah I'm sorry bud, after Kung Flu and reading up on standard Chinese business practices I'm not going to trust dinks or the companies that outsource American jobs to them.
I can actually say that I have avoided them this year as well but that’s because we’re a day in.... last year, I spent over $4k there. It’s an addiction.
They have cheap, mid-grade and professional versions of most of their hand tools.... I’m a product support engineer for an aerospace supplier but came up as an automotive tech and owned race shops. I still build race cars and motorcycles for hobby and prototype race parts for production on the side... I hate thinking back on how much money I have spent on Snap-On and Matco tools now that HF’s Icon line is out. I sold a ton of my old stuff and bough almost the entire Icon line.... I can’t believe how good it is... It’s the same deal with much of the modern Gearwrench stuff, Tekton, Capri, etc...
I have a lot of their more expensive other items as well and have yet to find anything “bad” besides for the vices. The Plasma cutter outperformed my Miller, for example... the best thing they sell is the Black Widow spray guns. I bought both and they replaced my Sata 3000 and an Iwata supernova and they perform just as well.
Yes. That is correct. Only things that caveat emptor may be properly applied to. That is, do not trust anything at Harbor Fraud that you can't entirely verify by looking at it.
Anyone else noticed an uptick in Amazon virtue signal commercials? "We helped make remote learning possible for 5,000,000 students", "We are helping black people get access to tech", "We are leading the way towards a future of 0 carbon emissions so you're children don't die!". It's all so tiresome
Future legislation will bring an end to American digestion and flatulence. The draft is called the "Pee Pee Poo Poo CARES Act". It has bipartisan support.
Yes I have, and every time I see those stupid woke commercials all I can say is shut the fuck up. Those damn commercials make me roll my eyes into my head harder than The Undertaker.
My wife keeps asking why our plumbing keeps breaking. I keep telling her not to buy those cheap parts at home depot. Their manufacturing tolerance is off the charts bad. The only care about the number of things produced, not the quality.
I went out of my way to buy a pex crimp ring tool that was made in the USA. Lowe's had the Sharkbite brand (which is made in the USA), while HD carries the Apollo brand (made in China). I'll gladly pay more for the USA made product instead of having to buy the Chinese made one twice.
If you can't find products made in the USA try to get Canadian or German/European products. Other countires stuff is still much better than cheap chinese crap.
My wife loves the shit Chinese ceiling lights and fans. She can’t underspent I want to throw it out the window when trying to install. It’s all so cheaply made and poorly machined. It’s a fucking nightmare.
Yeah, but their 5 mil nitrile gloves are the tits, and cost half as much as others, which are probably chink made as well. I go through cases and cases of those things.
Getting ready to purchase my 2nd water heater in 7 years. AO Smith made in China almost burnt my house down. There ought to be class action lawsuits against shit made in China.
Ouch, sorry to hear that. I just bought one and it says it's made at their plant in Tennessee. I wonder if it's just assembled there from foreign components.
If only DeWalt could actually produce their table and mitre saws in the USA. Even though the models I bought are made in Taiwan, I was still disappointed.
I learn to never buy very cheap stuff. They are literally worthless trash that breaks in a few days. If you have to buy, buy stuff that are not cheap but also not expensive.
In my factory I try to buy American whenever I can! It’s a buy once cry once deal. First I try within my city, then state, and then US. Before I go overseas I see if I can make it myself in my machine shop. It’s not hard if you make it a priority
I tried one of those Chinese digital manometers on Amazon, it couldn't keep a steady reading. Sent it back in a heartbeat. Gladly paid almost 4x the cost for a legit Fieldpiece meter.
Chyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy-na
I'll never get tired of the way our president pronounces "China"
“Only”
Ive only met a couple handfuls of people that large lol. And a few of them were roided-out powerlifters.
6’ Nordic women? Ooooh I want to come by
Today I learned there's a place on Earth with "lots of Icelandic" that's not Iceland.
They're called Giants
Ever see a comparison of chyneese tape measures? 👎
No wonder their buildings crumble.
A lot of the straight rulers don't start on zero. Almost comical.
Chinese islands are sinking bro
Chyna tools really do suck. Never buy them anymore
Can confirm, my brother works at Home Depot, the shipping boxes say the cargo is from China but inside the products are marked Made in America. Sometimes its more deceptive and just has a USA sticker. Wth?!
Yes its crazy. And some are just a deceptive sticker like USA with an American flag but no actual claim to have been manufactured or assembled in the USA. Something else my brother said, the shipments from China never slowed down, not once , not even at the start of the covid panic.
I try hard not to buy stuff Made in China, but sometimes have no choice. But if it has an American flag, or "USA" on it, with "Made in China" in a tiny font somewhere, it goes straight back on the shelf. Period.
Good luck finding any consumer grade electronics not made in Chynah.
Genuine Chinesium.
I like to look for old tools at estate stores and "garage sale" stores and antique stores. There's usually at least one booth in those big vintage malls which is all tools. You can just pick stuff up and without looking, know it was made in America back in the day when things were built with integrity. Will be good for another generation or more.
This is what I do. Many of these tools are rusted, but work just fine with some oil and wirebrushing. Others need a little more work, but good tools can't be had at any price new today.
Tool truck my friend.
Old tools work great. A little rust is easy to clean. Totally worth buying up old tools from when America made products for more than profit.
likewise you can find really nice American made tools at small pawn stores....they usually have an isle of tools to choose from and you can haggle plenty knowing they got them for next to nothing from desperate sellers.
Lol, I love that dudes channel. So envious of his new piece of land and all his rad toys he has. One day...
You see his wife knock her own tooth out with a maul? Lol
Nah I haven’t I recently found him in the past few months. Really enjoy his channel though, minus the horrible clickbait style titles.
It’s from a while back. Some stuff Is great some is meh. You ain’t wrong about those titles lol.
I mean I get it, dudes trying to make money. It’s just annoying at times. He’s obviously doing very well by the looks of his new property! I have a feeling he’s a Pede as well, at least I like to think that
Just find the land and buy it and start going for it. I bought 6 acres at a tax forfeiture auction 2 years ago and I still live in town and slowly developing it. Hopefully this summer I will my place in town and move out to the woods. Land prices are only gonna go up, especially with people fleeing cities.
Yeah we will soon, gotta knock off some student debt my wife has. I’d like to get at least 20 acres. We live on a few now but not enough
Cool 👌😎.
Harbor Freight is admittedly an addiction.
agreed, I have been avoiding them as much as possible this year. Only problem is you have to be careful with other "cheap" brands most of that shit is from China too.
Where else will you get your Chicago Electric reciprocal saw that may last you one day? Or your Pittsburg wrenches where the 9/16th is closer to 1/2"?
ouch that one hit home hard...had that happen to me several years ago and kinda circumcised my pointing finger...ouch 😕
Buy the Icon stuff. Pretty nice tools for the money. The sockets I’ve bought are pretty damned close to the Snap on ones I have for a fraction of the price. The Pittsburg stuff is fine for most people, but if you use tools in your profession they should be avoided.
Agreed.. I have almost the entire Icon line and have already sold off most of my Matco and Snap-On tools.
All of the expensive ones are constructed out of parts made in Chyna.
yep, fuck dewalt and milwaukee cuz of this shit. their new stuff is god awful chinese crap
Who do you prefer? Makita?
Japanese plastic that has been folded over 1000 times is pretty good, yeah. Also a fan of Bosch, it's damn hard to find any of the shit actually made in Germany these days but at least the outsourced manufacturing doesn't end up in China. Really as long as it isn't Chinese bullshit I don't rightly give too much of a fuck who made it, since the sad truth is it's really difficult to find American made tools now. Klein is outsourcing, Channel Lock is outsourcing, I miss the days when all the best tools came out of America and you could go to Sears and buy Black and Decker and it was actually good.
For personal tools that aren't supplied by the contractor I usually try and scour some shit like Craigslist/ebay/whatever for something old that was actually made in America. I love restored sets of pliers like this and it's been a dream of mine for a while to set up a machine shop in my garage and do that kind of shit myself. A lot of the money I had set aside for shit like that got eaten up this year because of the god damn branch covidians and I hope they all die of AIDS for ruining all of our lives with this ridiculous bullshit. I had the coof in January and I got over it after having a fever for a week. Didn't even know I had it until I donated blood in the summer and they let me know I had antibodies for it. Yet my life was fucked to pieces just like everybody else's.
Sorry for rambling
Most of the tools from reputable tool makers who have tool made in china, design and test their stuff in the first world but then make them in China with western oversight to make sure QA is up to scratch. The shit stuff which breaks soon after buying are the no name brands or some other Yum Cha name on the device...those are the ones you do not want left plugged into to garage wall power socket as you may come back to a pile of ashes.
yeah I'm sorry bud, after Kung Flu and reading up on standard Chinese business practices I'm not going to trust dinks or the companies that outsource American jobs to them.
It's sad that Starrett puts their name on chynees shit.
I can actually say that I have avoided them this year as well but that’s because we’re a day in.... last year, I spent over $4k there. It’s an addiction.
Fuck I'd rather not have the tool and save my money than a piece of shit.
They have cheap, mid-grade and professional versions of most of their hand tools.... I’m a product support engineer for an aerospace supplier but came up as an automotive tech and owned race shops. I still build race cars and motorcycles for hobby and prototype race parts for production on the side... I hate thinking back on how much money I have spent on Snap-On and Matco tools now that HF’s Icon line is out. I sold a ton of my old stuff and bough almost the entire Icon line.... I can’t believe how good it is... It’s the same deal with much of the modern Gearwrench stuff, Tekton, Capri, etc...
I have a lot of their more expensive other items as well and have yet to find anything “bad” besides for the vices. The Plasma cutter outperformed my Miller, for example... the best thing they sell is the Black Widow spray guns. I bought both and they replaced my Sata 3000 and an Iwata supernova and they perform just as well.
So is meth.
They're only good for zip ties and tarps and stuff like that - things with no moving parts to fuck up.
Yes. That is correct. Only things that caveat emptor may be properly applied to. That is, do not trust anything at Harbor Fraud that you can't entirely verify by looking at it.
would not exist without the not fit for purpose garbage imported from Chynah
China is like a giant colony of ants. They shuffle through daily tasks without an original thought
Anyone else noticed an uptick in Amazon virtue signal commercials? "We helped make remote learning possible for 5,000,000 students", "We are helping black people get access to tech", "We are leading the way towards a future of 0 carbon emissions so you're children don't die!". It's all so tiresome
Ummm. Zero carbon emissions means no humans.
Future legislation will bring an end to American digestion and flatulence. The draft is called the "Pee Pee Poo Poo CARES Act". It has bipartisan support.
well, there went Brazil's economy
Yes I have, and every time I see those stupid woke commercials all I can say is shut the fuck up. Those damn commercials make me roll my eyes into my head harder than The Undertaker.
A little bit of spice makes everything nice
That was the best response a President ever gave to a member of the press in history, and Trump probably has at least 70 in the top 100.
My wife keeps asking why our plumbing keeps breaking. I keep telling her not to buy those cheap parts at home depot. Their manufacturing tolerance is off the charts bad. The only care about the number of things produced, not the quality.
I went out of my way to buy a pex crimp ring tool that was made in the USA. Lowe's had the Sharkbite brand (which is made in the USA), while HD carries the Apollo brand (made in China). I'll gladly pay more for the USA made product instead of having to buy the Chinese made one twice.
If you can't find products made in the USA try to get Canadian or German/European products. Other countires stuff is still much better than cheap chinese crap.
German tools are top of the line generally. Germans know how to engineer.
I have an addiction to German tools. Knipex, Wera, Wiha etc..... great tools.
Alot of times I have to order the tool online, because I can't even find a non-china version locally
It's the same thing for computer parts. We used to have a saying: It takes three tries to buy it at Fry's.
My wife loves the shit Chinese ceiling lights and fans. She can’t underspent I want to throw it out the window when trying to install. It’s all so cheaply made and poorly machined. It’s a fucking nightmare.
Shitty Chinese pot-metal castings will kill your ass.
No surprise when Harbor Freight issued a recall on their Jack-stands.
"Would you like to buy an extended warranty on this?"
"No, I'll just wait for the recall."
Harbor freight Jack stand.
I mean some things from there are fine.
A Jack stand? Do you want to die?
Their jacket and horribly bruised my finger.
Took it back and the kind manager showed me the jacket and recall notice taped to the store wall.
But Harbor Freight loves me long time
Don't trust Chinese rubber!
Yeah, but their 5 mil nitrile gloves are the tits, and cost half as much as others, which are probably chink made as well. I go through cases and cases of those things.
China is asshoe!
Buy anywhere but china.
Because they use that brittle Chinesium instead of good US steel
Made in Cheap Ass Globalist-Run Country
...by slave child labor
Truth
Buy it nice or buy it twice.
That is the fuckin' truth
Fucking love this. Haha
this shit is funny
This is the reason for this dom website
Getting ready to purchase my 2nd water heater in 7 years. AO Smith made in China almost burnt my house down. There ought to be class action lawsuits against shit made in China.
Ouch, sorry to hear that. I just bought one and it says it's made at their plant in Tennessee. I wonder if it's just assembled there from foreign components.
Those tools are made from a rare alloy known as CHINESIUM
If only DeWalt could actually produce their table and mitre saws in the USA. Even though the models I bought are made in Taiwan, I was still disappointed.
In Texas they are made in Mexico because that is so much better.
JustAskAsshoe
🇺🇸American is always bettter. Period.
being better than communist china at manufacturing is really not a very high bar.
I said always. You weren’t listening.
Period.
I learn to never buy very cheap stuff. They are literally worthless trash that breaks in a few days. If you have to buy, buy stuff that are not cheap but also not expensive.
Trump in pit vipers is awesome
In my factory I try to buy American whenever I can! It’s a buy once cry once deal. First I try within my city, then state, and then US. Before I go overseas I see if I can make it myself in my machine shop. It’s not hard if you make it a priority
I tried one of those Chinese digital manometers on Amazon, it couldn't keep a steady reading. Sent it back in a heartbeat. Gladly paid almost 4x the cost for a legit Fieldpiece meter.
Hahahahahahaha
Hopefully that H2S detector was not made in chyna.
Holy fuck kek
How did Joe Biden cheat the election for $500
quality > cost
Penche chino nails! Said my coworker everytime he bent a nail
Buy old tools, just bought an old American made vise for my work bench, expensive, but worth it...
**china