Yep. But it is a legal option, and so we are working on it regardless. If nothing else the canvass here is forcing the state to acknowledge the voter rolls are absolutely fucked, and the affidavits are laying grounds for the citizens here to do something about it.
If we can find proof of complicity in fraud by specific elected people, or government employees, then the citizens will have a hell of a lawsuit to mount. Finding that would be a dream come true of course, since these asshats are not stupid.
However, the 800 pound elephant in the room is the mail in ballots. At least here in AZ, and I would guess elsewhere. Consider: we know if you mail something to a non existent address or person, and it has a return address on it, it gets returned to sender as undeliverable. So, in theory, the county recorders' offices should have gotten back thousands of undeliverable ballots.
Which leads to questions. If they were returned, then those outer envelopes should be stamped undeliverable. Who intercepted them and filled them out? If they were NOT returned, were they even mailed in the first place, or do they only exist electronically?. If the first is the case, then there may be plenty of evidence regarding commission of flat out fraud in these offices. If the latter is the case, then we need to get our hands on those damned machines, and the physical ballots, so we can show that thousands of votes do not exist in one form or another.
I would bet that IF we could obtain access to the physical evidence, we would find a real shambles. At which time the states would have 0 choice legally but to decertify. Because if you do not have ballots, you didn't have a fucking election.
Yep. But it is a legal option, and so we are working on it regardless. If nothing else the canvass here is forcing the state to acknowledge the voter rolls are absolutely fucked, and the affidavits are laying grounds for the citizens here to do something about it.
If we can find proof of complicity in fraud by specific elected people, or government employees, then the citizens will have a hell of a lawsuit to mount. Finding that would be a dream come true of course, since these asshats are not stupid.
However, the 800 pound elephant in the room is the mail in ballots. At least here in AZ, and I would guess elsewhere. Consider: we know if you mail something to a non existent address or person, and it has a return address on it, it gets returned to sender as undeliverable. So, in theory, the county recorders' offices should have gotten back thousands of undeliverable ballots.
Which leads to questions. If they were returned, then those outer envelopes should be stamped undeliverable. Who intercepted them and filled them out? If they were NOT returned, were they even mailed in the first place, or do they only exist electronically?. If the first is the case, then there may be plenty of evidence regarding commission of flat out fraud in these offices. If the latter is the case, then we need to get our hands on those damned machines, and the physical ballots, so we can show that thousands of votes do not exist in one form or another.
I would bet that IF we could obtain access to the physical evidence, we would find a real shambles. At which time the states would have 0 choice legally but to decertify. Because if you do not have ballots, you didn't have a fucking election.