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posted ago by surfrighter ago by surfrighter +2283 / -0

Is the country really as blue as the Dems would have you believe? Do the blue states really just love the punishment, high taxes, fraud, welfare, unemployment and keep voting blue? Or are more of them voting red than what we may know?

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Itscrazytime 46 points ago +46 / -0

California is red. They have used the media to help manipulate us into believing that CA is only blue. They did this on purpose because it is worth so many damn electoral college votes. So they took the biggest state first. As soon as the polls close, it goes blue without any votes being counted. Then, no one even questions it or looks into it because we have all been taught to just believe it.

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maga_mama_757 27 points ago +27 / -0

Same with VA - they call the election with something like 3 percent of the votes having been counted. And we all just blame NOVA, because what's what we've been conditioned to think.

I'm convinced VA is red.

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Itscrazytime 17 points ago +17 / -0

Arizona and Virginia were the tell tale signs. I kept asking my wife why the hell Virginia was given to Biden so early. Then, when they called Arizona, I immediately said they are stealing the election. I personally believe there are really only a few true blue states.

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d3plor4ble 7 points ago +8 / -1

There are no blue states besides MAYBE Hawaii and Vermont. There are only blue cities.

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zematynnad 3 points ago +3 / -0

the cities may not be blue either -> fraud

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maga_mama_757 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes, I was so confused! Trump was up significantly in VA pretty much all night and yet they had called it for Biden within thirty minutes. I went to bed kind of thinking the media might have to recall Virginia the next day.

And then we all know what happened in the dead of night....

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CubanitoLopez 3 points ago +3 / -0

Psy op. Media is in on it.

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Buckit 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wtf are you serious ?

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bananafone 1 point ago +1 / -0

Same with new Mexico

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Rare_obsidian_pepe 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think this is a fair point. I suspected it for quite some time.

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Gunmolester 1 point ago +1 / -0

THIS!!! I watched CA take a hard left turn like somebody grabbled the wheel back in the 90s and it has been going in left circles ever since...swirling if you will...like down a drain...or toilet...yep thats it...toilet

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Central 12 points ago +12 / -0

more true than fiction

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rageous 4 points ago +4 / -0

I firmly believe California has been rigged for at least 8 years. There is no way anyone that has seen the homeless problem there would keep voting for the same leadership for over a decade.

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surfrighter [S] 12 points ago +12 / -0

In either 2016 or 2018, the Dems turned Orange County blue (100%) when it was reliably red prior to that. Was a total odd ball occurrence that really stood out and I don’t think it was ever aggressively investigated. Same thing happens in my home town of Houston where they swept all of the judges and city council positions...people just paint the incidents as being a growing liberal population.

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LesboPregnancyScare 7 points ago +7 / -0

Orange county went from voting for every R president since FDR in 1936. In as late as 2004 went from 1 in 100 provisional ballots to 1 in 10 for 2016 and voted blue.

It's just a conspiracy theory though I'm told.

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surfrighter [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

I’m a bog Orange County fan because I surf so I travel there from Texas when possible..and their politics has always interested in me. So when they got eclipsed on 2016, it was a little shocking but I just chalked it up to simply falling / caving to the rest of the state. But now I don’t think so.

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LesboPregnancyScare 4 points ago +4 / -0

its absolutely criminal what happened in Orange County. The residents have been successfully fighting back against Newsoms BS though, which is good, and culturally goes against the way the county supposedly voted in 2016 and again in 2020

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surfrighter [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

It is more than criminal and its end game time. We are backed into a corner on this one.

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VinceOnAPlane 3 points ago +3 / -0

2018 - They wanted us to catch Brenda Snipes in Florida and turn a blind eye to the election fraud that happened EVERYWHERE ELSE.

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PennsylPede1776 8 points ago +8 / -0

Trump won California. Change my mind.

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Kobes_Helicopter 1 point ago +1 / -0

You're damned right he won. He won CA BIG! But the fraud has been strong in CA for many years!

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Mobmando 7 points ago +7 / -0

New York voted for Trump

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becky21k1 1 point ago +1 / -0

New York could be audited if they keep the ballots like they're supposed to.

NY machines you fill out your own and scan it.

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Scuffers 7 points ago +7 / -0

T think that's a given...

I would put money on NY voting for Trump

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sfp6 7 points ago +7 / -0

You mean, what if Democrats were just a fringe minority, and the only reason they appear like a major political party is because they cheat their way into office?

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quai24 5 points ago +5 / -0

The Bolsheviks used the exact same tactic in Russia

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Oback_Barama 3 points ago +3 / -0

For democrats, Democracy is the journey, not the destination. They win legit once, then they put in the people, laws, and corruption so that they never lose again.

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surfrighter [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Couldn’t have asked it better!

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surfrighter [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, it’s insane.

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Hypothesis 5 points ago +5 / -0

Look up the gubernatorial race in Washington State, 2004. Another stolen election.

WA has been "deep blue" ever since mail-in voting was implemented statewide. That's not a coincidence.

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geckogreen 2 points ago +2 / -0

Culp is sueing the SOS. There are something like 300000 fake registrations.

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surfrighter [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

It’s out of control and it’s going to take a lot of work to fix.

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HiddenDekuScrub 4 points ago +4 / -0

I've been wondering this for a while. I do think some really are reliably blue. But I think there's more of us than any of us realized.

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surfrighter [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Totally agree. I end up at too many functions where the vast majority of the room is Red. It is all staring to make sense.

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TAIWANNUMBERONE 4 points ago +4 / -0

Fun fact: you can be heavily fined for investigating electoral fraud and cleaning up flammable debris in California. Coincidence?

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surfrighter [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not sure whether to laugh or cry at that one...or just pound my fist in the table.

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thallos 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hint: they have been cheating forever.

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surfrighter [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hint believed!

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1PhantomStranger 2 points ago +2 / -0

Everything is in question now that the fraud has been exposed and is so prevalent.

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Captbru 2 points ago +2 / -0

only machines and dead people vote democratic

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donylawer 2 points ago +2 / -0

dduuuhhhh

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BloodDe 2 points ago +2 / -0

My mind has been going here. I don’t think the dems won congress in 2018 nor do I think Hillary won the popular vote.

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surfrighter [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don’t think so either. Others have mentioned that the 2018 mid terms were a very strange anomaly and now my gut / heart tells me why. We were scammed.

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silentnoobxd 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is exactly what's going on in Washington

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patrioticwinning3 1 point ago +1 / -0

BINGO

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Usernameunavailable 1 point ago +1 / -0

Massachusetts is reliably blue due to corruption. It appears to be genetic.

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codefender 1 point ago +1 / -0

It happened in Colorado. Colorado should be red but they stole it in 2017 with Dominion voting. Only 2 counties here don't use it. Both red. What a coincidence.

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surfrighter [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think they have been stealing this state by state. Then started panicking when their blue wall was starting to fall because of Trump.

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letrain 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes

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Gmelindag 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’ve been saying the same thing watching all these rallies for Trump in California and New York! Nancy Pelosi has probably never won that race in California in that nasty witch! Does anybody really believe that New York voted for Cuomo? Do you think they voted for Deblasio? Gavin Newsom? Not a chance in hell the game has been rigged for a long time!

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surfrighter [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’m pretty sure they did Bernie in a couple of elections in a row as well. I’m not a Bernie fan but the dude had support and momentum...and could draw a crowd.

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CertainlyNotEdward 1 point ago +1 / -0

Less than ten years ago there was a republican governor in California.

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CubanitoLopez 1 point ago +1 / -0

We have been awakened

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surfrighter [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Is t that the truth...beyond my wildest dreams!

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Revelation2010 1 point ago +1 / -0

The #1 issue America needs is voter ID. Start with the states that are run by conservatives to safeguard them. Then start the fight in the "fake blue" states.

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surfrighter [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

It seems so simple to just implement voter ID, but that would ruin their whole game...that and border patrol. Even Canada requires and ID to vote.

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rufrignkidnme 1 point ago +1 / -0

what if water was wet or your pee a dark yellow almost orange color when you take too many vitamins?

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surfrighter [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Then you should take less vitamins...I think??

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Pepe2024 1 point ago +1 / -0

They have been controlling the elections for a long time. I didn't realize it until this year but it is both sides. We should demand every state be audited. I don't believe the numbers in any of them. I was thinking about the votes being switched around. I know people that vote 3rd party. Not enough that they would win an election. But they get what 1 percent of the vote, if there lucky. Just going from people I know that have expressed their political leanings openly, it seems to be more than 1 out of a 100. If I had to guess, after 92, they put a tighter control on who wins elections. Ross perot rattled their power structure. They probably set it up so that no outsider could ever have a chance again. They didn't count on an outsider rising from within their 2 party system. This time they tipped the scales even more and he still got more votes. They have been caught. We know it, they know it.

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surfrighter [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Totally agree. They had to tip the scales so much that it became apparent.

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Philpottz5 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've been thinking that for some time. Maybe the solution is really just we the peeps waking up.

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surfrighter [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I agree!! It’s completely eye opening! I’m shocked at how I feel right now with respect to mowing that our govt. (elections) are this jacked!

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I_no_asshoe 1 point ago +1 / -0

Colorado.

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Airvh 1 point ago +1 / -0

I know in Washington state on the west side of the puget sound I only saw 3 Biden signs total during the race.

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AllAmericanAdonis 1 point ago +1 / -0

EXACTLY.

THE MASK IS OFF.

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SteakywithKetchup 1 point ago +1 / -0

Can’t trust anything anymore. Not until Trump has secured four more years and he gets to the bottom of the swamp drainage...then we will know !

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surfrighter [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Amen...we need four more years to keep working on this or we lose all the ground that we have gained.

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Nomad1 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yes. This is true. Reagan won a 49 state landslide in the 80s. Since that time the population of the US is older. No way things move that far that fast. We've been 'Dominioned' for decades.

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surfrighter [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I agree. I think this has been going on a really long time and we on the right trusted the system because of our own feelings of how sacred our election is.

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Dilis 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've been thinking this ever since 11/03/20 I REALLY want to see the CA true stats for the last 5 administrations!

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surfrighter [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, because everybody needs to quit sleepwalking and letting these clowns punk us!

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DefenderDad 1 point ago +1 / -0

Cities. Its the cities. Places that even hollywood and media blatantly put in our faces that are hotbeds of corruption.

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FromSethWithLove 1 point ago +1 / -0

It totally explains how they keep getting worse and worser

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surfrighter [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

It’s the ONLY explanation.

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americaeffyeah 1 point ago +1 / -0

i'm starting to think this

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surfrighter [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think I’m starting to KNOW this!!!

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americaeffyeah 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've known forever that the country is majority conservative and always shook my head at the idiots in these big cities but i'm starting to wonder if even those big cities are vastly more conservative than we know but their votes havent mattered.

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surfrighter [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

It is starting to seem that way. I am in Houston, which is a very “blue” city in a red state...but it is clear to me that the majority of people here are Republicans. I think Houston elections have been on the take for some time and I just never realized it until now. In my opinion, there is likely a ton of ballot harvesting that is going on which is illegal in Texas but that isn’t stripping anybody. Of late, all of the District Attorney’s are going full Soros backed. Their strategy is working and we have to stop it. Seems like a tall Mountain to climb, but I am going to try and get involved locally.

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MAGAyar 1 point ago +1 / -0

Illinois is red. Our votes this year we’re the closest I’ve ever heard of- but the politicians have the state bought and paid for, like mike madigan.

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Td4trump 1 point ago +1 / -0

I would bet that old Nancy hasn’t been legitimately elected in years!!

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surfrighter [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have to believe that a clown like that lady could only get into office by cheating.

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Zadok 1 point ago +1 / -0

Winner, winner, Chicken Dinner.

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whomurderedepstein 1 point ago +1 / -0

So this was some initial data from after the election. When you apply Benford's law to the swing states Democratic numbers do not match. When you apply benford's law to the deep blue States the Republican numbers do not match. So that means in swing States either the Republicans cheat by giving the Democrats more votes, or the Democrats cheat by giving themselves more votes. In deep blue states then it means that either the Republicans are cheating in deep blue states to lose or the Democrats are cheating by reducing Republican votes.

I believe the simple answer is Democrats cheat by giving themselves more votes in swing states and less to Republican votes in deep blue States.

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surfrighter [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I know I am biased, but I don’t see Republicans wanting to cheat. It’s just not our game. We like to win legally...and consider elections to be sacred. That might be a fatal flaw of ours if the Dems are always going to be printing and stealing. Tough subject to wrap my mind around but we believe too strongly in Democracy to engage in a betrayal of it. At least that’s how I feel.

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whomurderedepstein 1 point ago +1 / -0

I do too. That's why the common sense explanation is bensford law is broken for dems in swings states by boosting their own numbers their and in deep blue states by reducing republican votes there. Up or down, the adjustment will cause Benford's law to fail. Or the law that when natural numbers arise there is an uneven distribution of the first number of each number. That is 1 will be the first number of a number more often then any other because of 1s 10s 100s. 1, 2, 17, 32, 199, 55. Three of these numbers begin with 1. The vote data arises naturally from city populations there for the first number of each number in the data should be 1 30% of the time. It's not. There has been fuckery.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benford's_law

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Commies-aint-people 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not to doom but don’t underestimate the amount of self hatred in Blue cites. When you hear the words “wretched hive of scum and villainy” forget Mos Eisley and think DC, LA, SF, Seattle etc. I wouldn’t surprise me if one or many elections in blue states have been stolen, but I also believe that the MSM propaganda works (because I have seen it work) and that the enemy is real and they do vote unfortunately in large numbers.

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surfrighter [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

True, but they also vote in large numbers by vote harvesting and vote looking schemes, which is illegal in a lot of states and should be illegal in all of them.

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4Mitchell4 1 point ago +1 / -0

of course

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Gloria_InExcelsisKek 1 point ago +1 / -0

RI is red. No one gives a shit but I'm telling you, RI is redder than the devil's dick.

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surfrighter [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Then God help us get this shit straightened out because I think so too!

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