Nope. He has not proven himself one way or another. My life motto is trust is earned, not given up front. As a believer, I have known too many people who wanted me to trust them just because they were Christians, but in the end they were not trustworthy. Only time will tell us the truth!
I’m extremely confused on how Pence can save the republic on the 6th.
I’ve been trying to research it, but all I get is that Pence can simply not count electoral votes, making it so that neither Trump or Biden reach the 270 needed. However, after that, it gets a big confusing. No one seems to know for sure.
I think that a lot of the anti Pence stuff is people just getting in front of if he counts all the certified votes as they currently are, finalizing a Biden presidency.
I’ll admit I have very limited knowledge on the topic and I’ve spent a lot of time trying to understand it, all while putting my hope bias away.
Everything seems to point to wishful thinking on the part of us Trump supporters. I’m not dooming and would gladly appreciate more insight on the topic, but sadly it isn’t there.
But from what I’ve read, Pence is the final say on the electoral college vote count. He must physically open certified electoral votes and count them. That’s about where my understanding ends. Others have pointed out that there are conflicting electoral votes and Pence could count those. Not sure if true or not. One of my many questions.
I also don’t understand all the hype over a senator and a representative objecting to the legitimacy of the certified states and electoral college votes. Many have left this out when talking about the power of Pence on the 6th.
The next part is that let’s assume that Pence can simply not count the votes he feels come from an election that was unconstitutional and no candidate gets to 270. What occurs next? Some say that Trump wins because it’s put to a vote and republicans get one vote for president per state they control, which is majority republican.
If someone who has way more knowledge on this reads this, for the love of God, could you help me understand the process? I cannot find anything on this topic that doesn’t seem like simplified hopeium or anti Pence stuff.
Flynn explained his position, that he doesn't blame Trump even though he could.
I think he knows Pence fucked him with Trump. Pence would have spoken with WH counsel, been experienced enough to know it was an illegal setup and that the incoming NSA answered in context honestly (Strozk asking if he's talked with any Russians that might be spies trying to infiltrate).
Then Pence called him a liar on national TV, got him fired, and changed the course of history forever. Flynn could have helped Trump so much, it isn't funny. He tried to do damage control after, but that was just for show. Damage was done.
I trust Louie Ghomert. He's a proven patriot. Pence is just a smooth, polished politician. He just asked the judge to toss the case against him with Nancy backing him up.
I say be ready to be highly dissapointed in Pence on the 6th.
Yup. There are a lot of really bright/competent people toeing the line between greatness and mentally ill. But I honestly don’t know what to think about Lin. Sidney hired him, and I do think she is competent.
Also worth noting that there are Protestant movements with millions of followers that believe in intentionally raising/destroying certain countries in order to fulfill prophecies and trigger the end times.
SO true. I always trust my gut - it has saved me countless times. I really really want to believe he is a good guy, but something in my gut tells me it might not be so.
He's a politician unlike Trump and has been in the game for years and in Congress. He is likely under duress from the deep state. Pompeo excluding him from images and lin Wood, a libel lawyer that trump is a fan of, saying what he has and pence saying very little about the fraud suggests to me that pence is indeed a traitor
Wy should Pence be free of criticism or skepticism? He hasn't been vocal about election fraud. Are hasn't told Rinos like Romney to get behind our President. He only cancelled his Jan 6th (7th?) international trip because we lost our collective minds over it. If Pence does the right thing on January 6th everyone who doubts him, like myself, will happily admit to being wrong. Until then he is as suspect as the rest of them.
Trump had numerous opportunities today, to offer support for Pence, after Lin Woods onslaught! I can’t remember seeing one tweet, where he assured us Pence is his man! Nor did he stop Wood! I really don’t know, but there sure wasn’t any backing, coming out of the WH today
Well said. I think we have fan girl pedes who take the Johnny Quest and Rayden memes too seriously.
Throwing support around for moral boosting doesn't erase facts. You'd think we'd learn after Priebus, Kelly, McMasters, Mattis, etc, etc.
As far as I'm concerned, he's the smooth politician who called Flynn a liar, got him fired, and highly damaged Trumps first 4 years by being the volunteer dagger of Brennan.
Called him a liar. Flynn did not lie. He answered a friendly conversational question IN CONTEXT. WH counsel would have told Flynn Comey entrapped Flynn and did so intentionally as Comey infamously bragged about in his book, on stage.
Why did Pence not put an end to this tragedy when he had a chance ? Because what ? Bad optics ? The future of the free world rests on this stolen election and Pence is going to get all sheepish ? Why did he suddenly cancel his trip to Israel ? Why did he cut short his holliday and rush back to the White House to meet with the President ?
Chit chat ? Mr Pence has been cozy with the Bush's for decades. Don't know anymore than any of you but this seems to me like Mike Pence will not be VP much longer.
Ay this point, I'm just waiting to see. I'm calling/emailing the lawmakers I can watch day, donating to Candace Owen's and red pulling normies on facebook and in real life.
Am I the only one neutral about the man? He hasn't demonstrated himself one way or the other.
Nope. He has not proven himself one way or another. My life motto is trust is earned, not given up front. As a believer, I have known too many people who wanted me to trust them just because they were Christians, but in the end they were not trustworthy. Only time will tell us the truth!
Nah, won’t shock me whichever way he goes. He’s talked a good talk, but talk is cheap.
Agreed. Ready to eat a big serving of crow if he saves the republic on Jan 6
True. I don't have an idea either way of what he will do, but there is something about him that gives me pause. I hope he proves me wrong!
I’m extremely confused on how Pence can save the republic on the 6th.
I’ve been trying to research it, but all I get is that Pence can simply not count electoral votes, making it so that neither Trump or Biden reach the 270 needed. However, after that, it gets a big confusing. No one seems to know for sure.
I think that a lot of the anti Pence stuff is people just getting in front of if he counts all the certified votes as they currently are, finalizing a Biden presidency.
I’ll admit I have very limited knowledge on the topic and I’ve spent a lot of time trying to understand it, all while putting my hope bias away.
Everything seems to point to wishful thinking on the part of us Trump supporters. I’m not dooming and would gladly appreciate more insight on the topic, but sadly it isn’t there.
But from what I’ve read, Pence is the final say on the electoral college vote count. He must physically open certified electoral votes and count them. That’s about where my understanding ends. Others have pointed out that there are conflicting electoral votes and Pence could count those. Not sure if true or not. One of my many questions.
I also don’t understand all the hype over a senator and a representative objecting to the legitimacy of the certified states and electoral college votes. Many have left this out when talking about the power of Pence on the 6th.
The next part is that let’s assume that Pence can simply not count the votes he feels come from an election that was unconstitutional and no candidate gets to 270. What occurs next? Some say that Trump wins because it’s put to a vote and republicans get one vote for president per state they control, which is majority republican.
If someone who has way more knowledge on this reads this, for the love of God, could you help me understand the process? I cannot find anything on this topic that doesn’t seem like simplified hopeium or anti Pence stuff.
No he hasn't really said anything about the fraud
He's been pretty quiet about everything, but has backed Trump multiple times. He's getting cautious optimism from me.
KEK! In what world?
He's either a great patriot or an amazing con man. I am truly convinced he is the former.
i am also 50/50 on him.
I'm 1 / 250,000 or 0.0004%. You know....The error percentage must have in a dominion voting machine for commission to use.
lin wood's tweets are confusing the fuck out of me WHAT IS GOING ON
It’s a way to sow a bit of chaos so people don’t know what the hell is going on. PsyOps. Or he just rants...i dunno lol
Lin Wood has gone insane and everyone in the Trump Campaign has pointed this out and seperated themselves from him: Jenna Ellis, Rudy Giuliani, etc.
but not Trump, and until that happens or it's otherwise exposed, I will remain open to the idea.
General Flynn hasn’t said anything
Lin wood is a libel lawyer and is representing Sidney in court. He's telling the truth
He's gonna get slaughtered in that court. I think the fame took over.
His specialty is libel/defamation. Pretty sure he knows what he is doing popping off the way he is 😂
I certainly hope so, because if not he might nit just lose his license but also bring down Powell with him.
Flynn explained his position, that he doesn't blame Trump even though he could.
I think he knows Pence fucked him with Trump. Pence would have spoken with WH counsel, been experienced enough to know it was an illegal setup and that the incoming NSA answered in context honestly (Strozk asking if he's talked with any Russians that might be spies trying to infiltrate).
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pence-i-knew-flynn-lied-to-me-about-russian-contacts-when-he-was-fired/
Then Pence called him a liar on national TV, got him fired, and changed the course of history forever. Flynn could have helped Trump so much, it isn't funny. He tried to do damage control after, but that was just for show. Damage was done.
I trust Louie Ghomert. He's a proven patriot. Pence is just a smooth, polished politician. He just asked the judge to toss the case against him with Nancy backing him up.
I say be ready to be highly dissapointed in Pence on the 6th.
Even Sandman called the lin wood tweet dumb. I don't care if i get downvoted. Lin Wood is crazy and not in a good way.
https://electionwiz.com/2021/01/01/nick-sandmann-calls-lin-wood-tweet-about-vp-pence-dumb/
Lin Wood is undergoing a nervous breakdown.
i don't think so tbh
Idc what anyone says, Lin is a player in this. Whether he's sowing truth or disinformation we don't know yet. But I'm convinced he's not a lone actor.
Yup. There are a lot of really bright/competent people toeing the line between greatness and mentally ill. But I honestly don’t know what to think about Lin. Sidney hired him, and I do think she is competent.
They worked together on the Georgia lawsuit.
Man, look at all you shills scared cause hes right over target. Yall look like reddit bots regurgitating the same garbage.
The devil knows the Bible backwards and forwards... doesn’t mean he isn’t the devil...
Also worth noting that there are Protestant movements with millions of followers that believe in intentionally raising/destroying certain countries in order to fulfill prophecies and trigger the end times.
Don't ask me why but I have never trust Pence
why
Did he lie about flynn?
He doesn't have a good reason. That's why he didn't want you to ask.
Sometimes, even oftentimes, a gut feeling is enough reason.
SO true. I always trust my gut - it has saved me countless times. I really really want to believe he is a good guy, but something in my gut tells me it might not be so.
I think it's because he's so damn dry he's hard to get a read on.
He's a politician unlike Trump and has been in the game for years and in Congress. He is likely under duress from the deep state. Pompeo excluding him from images and lin Wood, a libel lawyer that trump is a fan of, saying what he has and pence saying very little about the fraud suggests to me that pence is indeed a traitor
Wy should Pence be free of criticism or skepticism? He hasn't been vocal about election fraud. Are hasn't told Rinos like Romney to get behind our President. He only cancelled his Jan 6th (7th?) international trip because we lost our collective minds over it. If Pence does the right thing on January 6th everyone who doubts him, like myself, will happily admit to being wrong. Until then he is as suspect as the rest of them.
Nope. You will see come the 6th. SWAMP.
As a Christian, I've had enough in my lifetime to see politicians who claim to dedicate their lives to God, but actually don't.
Trump had numerous opportunities today, to offer support for Pence, after Lin Woods onslaught! I can’t remember seeing one tweet, where he assured us Pence is his man! Nor did he stop Wood! I really don’t know, but there sure wasn’t any backing, coming out of the WH today
Pence requesting Gohmert to drop his lawsuit against him. Court Document Link
Is this the same lawsuit as the one the Amistad Project filed against him?
I had thought that Gohmert only had the Texas electors on that one. I could be wrong though.
When he got Trump to fire Flynn was he with us! Or just “part of the plan!”
Not clicking a fagbook link. Do better. We’ll find out about Pence soon definitely.
Literally DAN Posted him and POTUS with the words: GAME ON SIR!
Why removed though?
Signal sent.
He was sucking Ryan's netheregions for years.
But he got a letter at bushes funeral
Remember he was served at GHWB funeral with Obozo, Clinton's, Bush's and Biden. https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1345066815865692162?s=20
No, pence will be executed by firing squad
What has Pence done to demonstrate he has Trump's back? Until the election season, we hardly ever heard from him.
He was also involved with Ryan, and it wasn’t exactly good
Agree. Benefit of the doubt, believe in Pence. Patriot.
Bad link.
Speak for yourself, I was never impressed.
Many of us have always questioned Pence. We’ve seen the evidence that suggests he may not be who he passes himself off to be.
The real problem are the people that don’t keep an open mind and don’t see the need to question everything and everyone.
Well said. I think we have fan girl pedes who take the Johnny Quest and Rayden memes too seriously.
Throwing support around for moral boosting doesn't erase facts. You'd think we'd learn after Priebus, Kelly, McMasters, Mattis, etc, etc.
As far as I'm concerned, he's the smooth politician who called Flynn a liar, got him fired, and highly damaged Trumps first 4 years by being the volunteer dagger of Brennan.
Called him a liar. Flynn did not lie. He answered a friendly conversational question IN CONTEXT. WH counsel would have told Flynn Comey entrapped Flynn and did so intentionally as Comey infamously bragged about in his book, on stage.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pence-i-knew-flynn-lied-to-me-about-russian-contacts-when-he-was-fired/
Many of us have had guarded hope, but never had faith in him. Big difference. we haven't lost anything.
BUT THAT USER WHO SIGNED UP JUST LONG ENOUGH AGO TO NOT HAVE THE NEW ICON NEXT TO THEIR NAME SAID IT'S ALL OVER!!!!!
Why did Pence not put an end to this tragedy when he had a chance ? Because what ? Bad optics ? The future of the free world rests on this stolen election and Pence is going to get all sheepish ? Why did he suddenly cancel his trip to Israel ? Why did he cut short his holliday and rush back to the White House to meet with the President ? Chit chat ? Mr Pence has been cozy with the Bush's for decades. Don't know anymore than any of you but this seems to me like Mike Pence will not be VP much longer.
Lin Wood was ripping Pence up on Twitter. Don’t know what to make of that.
Agreed!
Ay this point, I'm just waiting to see. I'm calling/emailing the lawmakers I can watch day, donating to Candace Owen's and red pulling normies on facebook and in real life.
Everything else, i leave up to Trump.
You won’t know until it’s time.
“We’re going to keep fighting until every legal vote is counted. We’re going to keep fighting until every illegal vote is thrown out.”
This is all theater. Relax people!!!
Can you imagine how much pressure is on these guys????
Im praying he finds the inner courage to do the right thing... But i will settle for him doing the right thing to save his own ass!
Lin Wood got something on him?
Perfect example of TDS.
He did get a letter tho...
^This. And his allegiance to the Bush's is well known. This, in and of itself, makes me skeptical.
You promised he would ALWAYS defend the USA you commie cuck.
Nice try to get me to log back into facebook. youre a POS