Antifa today is modeled after the antifa that existed in Weimar. They are (and were) an arm of communism and have nothing to do with NSDAP. Yes National Socialist Germany defeated the central banks and outlawed usury. They turned what was a failed state into one of the most successful economies in Europe within 4 years. Yes central banking practices are far more evil than any totalitarian regime we will ever face and has existed long before the CCP. Why were those wars started? Germany invaded Poland because poles were ethnically cleansing Germans in an area that was previously German. Afolf Hitlers last appeal to reason demonstrates very well they didn’t want a war with with western states. If the UK and France were so concerned about Poland as they say, why did they not declare war on the USSR who also invaded Poland?
Antifa today is modeled after the antifa that existed in Weimar. They are (and were) an arm of communism
Correct.
and have nothing to do with NSDAP.
Incorrect. Where the fuck do you think the National Socialists and International Socialists learned so many of their dirty tricks?
From each other. Or I suppose you think it was just a coincidence that one of the central economic planning organs for the Nazis was the “Office of the Four Year Plan”, self consciously modeled off of (inaccurate assessments of ) the Soviet Five shear Plans (which were mostly glorified PR announcements with little actual effect on Soviet policy making)?
Oh the examples I can cite. But the SA were formed in an attempt to unite the mass revolutionary organization of the Spartakists and their Red Front successors with the discipline and military training of the Freikorps. AntifA was a desperate eleventh hour rebranding of the Rotfront with some reforms to emulate the SA in the hopes of stopping the waves of defections, desertions, and defeats it had suffered.
If you actually look at the tucking primary source evidence, you can actually see that both sides had a bitter love-hate relationship and were willing to not just crib notes from each other but more or less openly admit it.
Yes National Socialist Germany defeated the central banks
Germany’s central banks had already had their backs broken first by the Hohenzollern Autocracy (who largely oversaw their creation) and then by the SPD (who wanted to manage them). It’s pretty pat hectic to claim credit for “defeating” entities that were mostly puppets of the government when you suddenly become said government.
Nicholas Biddle they were not.
and outlawed usury.
“Law” has little meaning or value under a totalitarian dictatorship in general, and it particularly has no value if you understand what the Fuhrerprinzip was. Ie that the Fuhrer was a low unto himself, capable of legislating into himself and even contradicting his own laws
This was no different. Not only did he not “outlaw usury” but many of his close allies partook in it, from Goering’s financial schemes to- particularly- Hitler’s own personal secretary Boermann’s Adolf Hitler Fund of German Trade and Industry, legalized loansharking cum extortion.
They turned what was a failed state into one of the most successful economies in Europe within 4 years.
No, “they” didn’t.
Germany had already begun to exit the Depression in the months prior to Hitler’s ascension thanks to the policies of his predecessor, General con Schlichter, who Hitler “thanked” by murdering him in the Night of the Long Knives before stealing credit for most of his policies and then doubling down on central planning and socialized economics.
That turned a recovering economy into an unsustainable pyramid scheme of war spending supported by internal blackmail like the aforementioned Adolf Hitler Fund and the MEIFO bills. Its economic stability relied on expansion, and had Hitler not gone to war by the early forties at the latest his economy would have collapsed. See Thatcher’s quote on socialism and other peoples’ money.
And as bad as Weimar got (and it could get very goddamn bad) it was never a Failed State. Honestly it might have been better if it had become so, but even during the worst days of the German Anarchy the German bureaucracy could maintain the police and ever more odious restrictions and registrations of citizens like legal gun owners. Which the Nazis took control of upon becoming the government. See Halbrook’s Gun Control in the Third Reich.
Yes central banking practices are far more evil than any totalitarian regime we will ever face
Then start backing it up with statistics or STFO.
and has existed long before the CCP.
Correct. Which raises the question of when has Central Banking caused anything as nightmarish as the One Child Policy, and certainly in a concentrated way.
Why were those wars started?
Oh I know. Do you? Probably not.
Germany invaded Poland because poles were ethnically cleansing Germans in an area that was previously German.
Absolute horseshit on every level.
Let’s start with the most obvious fact. There was indeed a country that bordered Germany that was carrying out a policy of ethnic cleansing against Germans, and I would argue it clearly constituted Genocide.
But that country was not Poland. It was Mussolini’s Italy and said Germans were in South Tyrol.
And Hitler reacted to this by telling the South Tyroleans to either return to the Reich or lie down and die. As was explicitly outlined in them he 1939 South Tyrol Agreement.
So Hitler did not go to war with Poland over such a thing as “merely” Ethnic Germans being cleansed.
Particularly because Poland- though a racist military junta at the time- had stopped cleansing ethnic Germans some time after Pilsudski’s coup in 1926 and in the Hitler-Beck Pact had even granted the Nazis control over the Free City of Danzig.
Hitler went to War with Poland (and murderously lied to do so, as Operation Himmler shows) in order to fulfill the dream of socialist autarky and conquer sufficient “living space” and food supply out East.
Hitlers last appeal to reason demonstrates very well they didn’t want a war with with western states.
This is going to come as a shock to you but people lie. Including so called statesmen. And Hitler had shown himself to be particularly shameless on that note.
Also his unpublished Second Book shows that not only was he committed to eventual war with France and the UK, but with the US!!!!
Ideally he would have preferred it to happen later, but he was more than willing to accept it happening earlier as a risk.
If the UK and France were so concerned about Poland as they say, why did they not declare war on the USSR who also invaded Poland?
Because they weren’t that concerned about Poland, they were concerned about runaway German and to a lesser extent Soviet or Italian continental hegemony. They also had not expected the Soviets to join the war in Hitler’s side and decided one war at a time (especially since Chamberlain was still hoping to find a peaceful resolution, which Hitler exploited in things like the Venlo Snatch).
But I have never claimed Britain or France acted perfectly. Not do I need to in order to show what a monster all the socialist totalitarians were.
well i can argue with you on one point. when can centralized banking start the one child policy or worse? when people the CCP centralize the banks under themselves and print all the money and own all the companies.
thats a great example of centralization gone wrong. those fuckers just manipulate and lie about what the value actually even is.
well i can argue with you on one point. when can centralized banking start the one child policy or worse? when people the CCP centralize the banks under themselves and print all the money and own all the companies.
The problem is that doesn't talk about Centralized Banking per se. it's about the CCP.
The CCP already imposed draconian and tyrannical measures of birth control on the people under its control back in the 1927-onwards exile in Yenan Province following the Long March; it's just that those measures were typically much less brutal and more restricted than the One Child Policy in full bloom. But a regime without any sort of centralized or systematic banking was still able to impose its fiat by the party dictatorship.
That was the nucleus of the system that Mao spread out after the Japanese and anti-Commie Nationalists had killed each other to a standstill and the West turned a blind eye. So at most central banking was a tool the CCP used to transfer is pre-existing centralized power onto the system.
thats a great example of centralization gone wrong. those fuckers just manipulate and lie about what the value actually even is.
Oh I agree. And I am no friend of Central Banks or their shenanagins. But the idea that they are more destructive than totalitarianism strikes me as deluded.
Antifa today is modeled after the antifa that existed in Weimar. They are (and were) an arm of communism and have nothing to do with NSDAP. Yes National Socialist Germany defeated the central banks and outlawed usury. They turned what was a failed state into one of the most successful economies in Europe within 4 years. Yes central banking practices are far more evil than any totalitarian regime we will ever face and has existed long before the CCP. Why were those wars started? Germany invaded Poland because poles were ethnically cleansing Germans in an area that was previously German. Afolf Hitlers last appeal to reason demonstrates very well they didn’t want a war with with western states. If the UK and France were so concerned about Poland as they say, why did they not declare war on the USSR who also invaded Poland?
Correct.
Incorrect. Where the fuck do you think the National Socialists and International Socialists learned so many of their dirty tricks?
From each other. Or I suppose you think it was just a coincidence that one of the central economic planning organs for the Nazis was the “Office of the Four Year Plan”, self consciously modeled off of (inaccurate assessments of ) the Soviet Five shear Plans (which were mostly glorified PR announcements with little actual effect on Soviet policy making)?
Oh the examples I can cite. But the SA were formed in an attempt to unite the mass revolutionary organization of the Spartakists and their Red Front successors with the discipline and military training of the Freikorps. AntifA was a desperate eleventh hour rebranding of the Rotfront with some reforms to emulate the SA in the hopes of stopping the waves of defections, desertions, and defeats it had suffered.
If you actually look at the tucking primary source evidence, you can actually see that both sides had a bitter love-hate relationship and were willing to not just crib notes from each other but more or less openly admit it.
Germany’s central banks had already had their backs broken first by the Hohenzollern Autocracy (who largely oversaw their creation) and then by the SPD (who wanted to manage them). It’s pretty pat hectic to claim credit for “defeating” entities that were mostly puppets of the government when you suddenly become said government.
Nicholas Biddle they were not.
“Law” has little meaning or value under a totalitarian dictatorship in general, and it particularly has no value if you understand what the Fuhrerprinzip was. Ie that the Fuhrer was a low unto himself, capable of legislating into himself and even contradicting his own laws
This was no different. Not only did he not “outlaw usury” but many of his close allies partook in it, from Goering’s financial schemes to- particularly- Hitler’s own personal secretary Boermann’s Adolf Hitler Fund of German Trade and Industry, legalized loansharking cum extortion.
No, “they” didn’t.
Germany had already begun to exit the Depression in the months prior to Hitler’s ascension thanks to the policies of his predecessor, General con Schlichter, who Hitler “thanked” by murdering him in the Night of the Long Knives before stealing credit for most of his policies and then doubling down on central planning and socialized economics.
That turned a recovering economy into an unsustainable pyramid scheme of war spending supported by internal blackmail like the aforementioned Adolf Hitler Fund and the MEIFO bills. Its economic stability relied on expansion, and had Hitler not gone to war by the early forties at the latest his economy would have collapsed. See Thatcher’s quote on socialism and other peoples’ money.
And as bad as Weimar got (and it could get very goddamn bad) it was never a Failed State. Honestly it might have been better if it had become so, but even during the worst days of the German Anarchy the German bureaucracy could maintain the police and ever more odious restrictions and registrations of citizens like legal gun owners. Which the Nazis took control of upon becoming the government. See Halbrook’s Gun Control in the Third Reich.
Then start backing it up with statistics or STFO.
Correct. Which raises the question of when has Central Banking caused anything as nightmarish as the One Child Policy, and certainly in a concentrated way.
Oh I know. Do you? Probably not.
Absolute horseshit on every level.
Let’s start with the most obvious fact. There was indeed a country that bordered Germany that was carrying out a policy of ethnic cleansing against Germans, and I would argue it clearly constituted Genocide.
But that country was not Poland. It was Mussolini’s Italy and said Germans were in South Tyrol.
And Hitler reacted to this by telling the South Tyroleans to either return to the Reich or lie down and die. As was explicitly outlined in them he 1939 South Tyrol Agreement.
http://www.historyisnowmagazine.com/blog/2014/6/9/fascists-falling-out-how-italian-fascists-discriminated-against-germans-in-the-inter-war-years#.X_CfpeQ8IlQ
So Hitler did not go to war with Poland over such a thing as “merely” Ethnic Germans being cleansed.
Particularly because Poland- though a racist military junta at the time- had stopped cleansing ethnic Germans some time after Pilsudski’s coup in 1926 and in the Hitler-Beck Pact had even granted the Nazis control over the Free City of Danzig.
Hitler went to War with Poland (and murderously lied to do so, as Operation Himmler shows) in order to fulfill the dream of socialist autarky and conquer sufficient “living space” and food supply out East.
This is going to come as a shock to you but people lie. Including so called statesmen. And Hitler had shown himself to be particularly shameless on that note.
Also his unpublished Second Book shows that not only was he committed to eventual war with France and the UK, but with the US!!!!
Ideally he would have preferred it to happen later, but he was more than willing to accept it happening earlier as a risk.
Because they weren’t that concerned about Poland, they were concerned about runaway German and to a lesser extent Soviet or Italian continental hegemony. They also had not expected the Soviets to join the war in Hitler’s side and decided one war at a time (especially since Chamberlain was still hoping to find a peaceful resolution, which Hitler exploited in things like the Venlo Snatch).
But I have never claimed Britain or France acted perfectly. Not do I need to in order to show what a monster all the socialist totalitarians were.
well i can argue with you on one point. when can centralized banking start the one child policy or worse? when people the CCP centralize the banks under themselves and print all the money and own all the companies.
thats a great example of centralization gone wrong. those fuckers just manipulate and lie about what the value actually even is.
The problem is that doesn't talk about Centralized Banking per se. it's about the CCP.
The CCP already imposed draconian and tyrannical measures of birth control on the people under its control back in the 1927-onwards exile in Yenan Province following the Long March; it's just that those measures were typically much less brutal and more restricted than the One Child Policy in full bloom. But a regime without any sort of centralized or systematic banking was still able to impose its fiat by the party dictatorship.
That was the nucleus of the system that Mao spread out after the Japanese and anti-Commie Nationalists had killed each other to a standstill and the West turned a blind eye. So at most central banking was a tool the CCP used to transfer is pre-existing centralized power onto the system.
Oh I agree. And I am no friend of Central Banks or their shenanagins. But the idea that they are more destructive than totalitarianism strikes me as deluded.