They're now pushing that the vaccine doesn't stop people from contracting and spreading the virus. The vaccine just stops people from getting sick from the virus.
That's how the flu vaccine works - seasonal flu. The leftist elites are now highlighting this to keep the fear and control going.
If there was an actual virus killing people why would it be necessary to tell doctors and pay them to put covid on any death certificate. My family has been in the mortuary transportation and cremation industry for forty years. We’ve had much busier years There has been no rise in deaths even in the elderly. We see death certificates for motorcycle accidents and drug overdoses that have covid on them. No elderly people are dying from any other flu or respiratory illness except covid. Even if it was isolated, then they would be isolating something that has had no affect.
We normally pick up bodies from emergency rooms, operating rooms patient rooms and icu rooms. Now especially recently, every single death is taken to the morgue and has a covid toe tag. The news say morgues are filled up but that’s because the hospitals are racing to make more money. Mortuaries and transportation storage facilities are at normal capacity. 20 years ago the impossible happened every mortuary and our massive storage facility we’re over flowing. Refrigerator trucks were rented. There was never a peep about it in the media. I can’t stress enough how much of a hoax it is. Hospitals and health departments are paid to perpetuate the hoax.
I was working picking up bodies for the coroner’s office and all the large crematories and mortuaries. We had a facility that has room for over a hundred bodies. Usually the facility has tons of room as bodies come to be held til paper work is filed with health department and then they are taken to crematory where they also have large coolers. Very quickly the mortuaries and crematories filled up. Suddenly the crematory was asking if they could hold bodies at our facility but boom we were filled. Then mortuaries we didn’t even work for asked if we had space. When I had to drop bodies off at mortuaries they had extra tables and I would have to place two bodies on little tables. Ultimately bodies had to be put on floors. We rented a portable cooler but it soon filled up. We were using old gurneys anything to put bodies on. I remember thinking it was like an apocalypse. I kept thinking it was going to be a huge news story. Never was. After a few weeks it tapered down and things went back to normal.
I just went to Niagara Falls a couple days ago. Waitress”oh my God your from Cali I heard the morgues are over flowing!” Car rental guy “ California! Heard the hospitals are overflowing and morgues are filling up!”
It is the strangest thing. It’s a national story (I don’t watch msm) and it is completely not true. Maddening!!!
Thank you for sharing, fascinating. Those dancing nurse videos really epitomize the hoax, they have nothing better to do (in nearly empty hospitals) than choreographing entire wards of nurses to do dance videos.
I’m a MLS ( medical lab scientist) with a masters degree, I have been in the profession for 19 years. I currently teach immunology and hematology to medical lab students. The virus is fishy to say the least. All the rules have been broken for a virus that has a 99% survival rate. Never in history has this been the narrative. This so called vaccine skipped animal trials, was not tested on specific populations with specific co-morbidities, it utilizes MRNA which has never been used before successfully, meaning never made it through clinical trials. It normally takes around 5 years for a vaccine development to market.
Not to mention that flu has almost been eradicated!? As a bench tech during flu season you can spend your day processing hundreds of influenza tests, why now has that changed? It’s all COVID now. It does not make any sense.
"Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA" - page 42
Well that's nice and all...but we are past the concept of proof, evidence or actual expert analysis. All that matters is the leftist narrative and that's the only purity test that anything in this world needs to pass apparently.
Is it overinflated? Yes. Are half the tests bullshit? Yes. Is it real? Yes...AJ had the guy on who wrote a lot of the modern bio warfare treaties. They basically all say it is a China chimera virus that isn't deadly by itself but does have gain of function so it spreads quickly. Many of the experts hypothesis is that it is part one laying the ground work for the next bio weapon release which will kill far more people.
I have wondered if it is real as well but I think it is. Other countries also said they looked at virus and could see insertion points where it was modified. I dont think we should lock down over it though
Find the gold sample. Otherwise it does not exist.
It is like you providing a forged check and saying you have a million dollars. You have a check in your hand that says you do. Well, take it in to the bank, and get the funds. Prove you have a million dollars. Otherwise, it does not exist.
IMO It is a cold laced with HIV by a Chinese lab. They wanted it to be weak enough so some people (justifiably) believe it is 100% fake. In March-May, there were a few fat 40 year old men who said it was fake, and then died. The reason it hasn't continued is that the mutation gets less potent as time goes on. I believe this was because this plan was supposed to be years from now, but with Trump, the NWO was now or never. The other purpose ofc was so it kills all the elderly with little time left anyways, to make everyone panic, not realizing they are giving their rights away for people who would have likely died next year. Also, it seems Europe's was worse early on, so Democrat governors had to improvise with the nursing home policies.
No gold standard isolated virus, Prove that exists before anything else. If you take a fake genome and create a version of it, it is still a fake genome.
Again, how do you reproduce something that you really have no original of?
Unless you isolate the virus so that there is only the virus present, it is impossible to know what the genome is.
Thus far, 11 months later, they have not been able to isolate it. Do you know why they cannot or will not isolate it? Because it does not exist. It is just your run of the mill influenza virus we see every year.
Only when you isolate it, create a gold standard sample, can you honestly know what it is.
Provide this one tiny little thing, and this can all be cleared up. But nope, after trillions of dollars they cannot provide this tiny little bit of evidence.
Just like the vote scammers cannot provide the evidence that Biden won.
The virus exists but that doesn't mean that it definitely exists in someone with some kind of cold or flu. What used to be symptoms of hundreds of cold / flu viruses or bacterial pneumonia, etc, perhaps thousands, are now only symptoms of COVID-19. That's a different medical error. Specifically people are finding it's not existing in patients or samples they're told it is or there's reliance on many tests, etc with insufficient checks they're definitely working with one virus or pathogen and not another.
Send us a link to the actual lawsuit of those 7 universities that he claims, and we'll believe that it's not a LARP. Surely, you've investigated at least THAT, given how sold you are on the dude?
The fact remains that there is no gold sample of the virus. Without that, you have no idea what it is. It would be like me telling you to go out to a swamp and to stick a net into the water any place you want to and what ever you pull out we will say is a snapping turtle.
You might not get anything, you might get a fish or a stick, but what ever you pull out, will be deemed to be a snapping turtle.
That is all they did with this virus so far, and we are what, 11 months in?
Sorry, but that was all bullshit. Almost no one is going on the ventilator any more. In fact it was found the ventilators are what were killing the first "cases".
Really? I currently have it, as well as two other family members? All officially tested as "positive". It is like a mild flu. We all had minimal fever. Barely any cough. The worst part is muscle and joint aches which feel exactly like the flu. In fact I have had worse cases of flu. Not sure this isn't some strain of the flu they just claim is covid.
I lost my sense of smell in 2006. Again in 2009 and then this year. It is normal for flu to do that. One reason people do not "feel" like eating when sick, because the food is bland.
"Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA"
If the virus has never been isolated into a gold standard, where the only thing in the sample is the specific virus, there is no way to get the genome information.
Until you give me evidence of an isolated virus in a gold standard sample, you cannot claim there is a known genome.
Very easy apparently to get the flu to spread in the summer. What kills off flu season is people out in the sun. Shut down, lock downs and kicking people out of parks and off beaches helps spread the flu.
Guess what looks exactly like the flu in summer? Lyme disease, which is everywhere now. Whole bunch of people got Lyme this summer (CDC has a low estimate of 300K new cases a year), and probably got misdiagnosed with “Covid.” They’re in for a world of hurt the rest of their life, when they now get misdiagnosed with an autoimmune disease like Multiple Sclerosis or CFS and put on steroids.
And it’s never just lyme. There are at least 7 other co-infections that go along with Lyme, which the CDC doesn’t want you to know about.
The PCR test can't distinguish between one and the other. They're all lumped together. Initially, the "positive" cases of the WuhanFlu were a clinical diagnosis - meaning that they doctors and nurses assumed the patient had the disease based on their symptoms. China was a fucking mess in the beginning... and the MSM hear said nothing much about it for weeks. The CDC failed to make accurate tests and was getting false positives/negatives which destroyed any effort at contact tracing. The WHO lied to everyone and told us that China was doing a great job, and we should not restrict travel.... This whole thing was gaslighted from top to bottom, so it's no wonder that people don't believe it's "real".
If the PCR test can’t distinguish between the regular flu and the wuflu, then no one can say with any measure of certainty that the wuflu exists. If PCR can be used to determine who murdered someone 20+ years back, it should be able to determine the difference between viruses. If it can’t, then either the method is suspect, which throws PCR testing based convictions into the hot seat or it casts doubt on the existence of the wuflu.
I'm very happy you (as with a decent percentage of folks) are experiencing light symptoms. With your one person poll, I'm not sure you would be able to account for the people whose immune system goes into overdrive and creates a cytokine storm that destroys their organs. I'm not going to get historical about this disease, but I'm not going to deny that it could and does kill people. The more important question, is how do we mitigate the worst of the economic damage while being responsible with everyone's health. Currently, I think now that their is a vaccine, people who know that they're not going to take it should "run the gauntlet" and work to build herd immunity. This will cost a lot of lives, but ultimately it is the only way to end this government sanctioned tyranny that is being imposed on all of us.
Sorry man, you hysterical spazs are going to attempt to argue with someone who actually has it right now, along with son and wife? Everyone I know who has had it barely experiences anything but mild flu symptoms
You drama queens can present all the scare mongering bullshit you want but this has told me that it is no different than a typical flu season which have always causes deaths with co morbities. My five person sample groups is more than this cytokine storm hysteria you are pushing based on articles you have read. People like you panic and thrive on this kind of bullshit and you look ridiculous.
They're now pushing that the vaccine doesn't stop people from contracting and spreading the virus. The vaccine just stops people from getting sick from the virus.
That's how the flu vaccine works - seasonal flu. The leftist elites are now highlighting this to keep the fear and control going.
If there was an actual virus killing people why would it be necessary to tell doctors and pay them to put covid on any death certificate. My family has been in the mortuary transportation and cremation industry for forty years. We’ve had much busier years There has been no rise in deaths even in the elderly. We see death certificates for motorcycle accidents and drug overdoses that have covid on them. No elderly people are dying from any other flu or respiratory illness except covid. Even if it was isolated, then they would be isolating something that has had no affect. We normally pick up bodies from emergency rooms, operating rooms patient rooms and icu rooms. Now especially recently, every single death is taken to the morgue and has a covid toe tag. The news say morgues are filled up but that’s because the hospitals are racing to make more money. Mortuaries and transportation storage facilities are at normal capacity. 20 years ago the impossible happened every mortuary and our massive storage facility we’re over flowing. Refrigerator trucks were rented. There was never a peep about it in the media. I can’t stress enough how much of a hoax it is. Hospitals and health departments are paid to perpetuate the hoax.
Correct. According to the CDC, the death rate for 2020 is 0.8% - down from 0.9% between 2017 and 2019.
I agree. I looked at the CDC website and need this information as well to help wake up the normies.
Thanks for sharing. May you go into more detail about what happened 20 years ago? Sounds intriguing.
I was working picking up bodies for the coroner’s office and all the large crematories and mortuaries. We had a facility that has room for over a hundred bodies. Usually the facility has tons of room as bodies come to be held til paper work is filed with health department and then they are taken to crematory where they also have large coolers. Very quickly the mortuaries and crematories filled up. Suddenly the crematory was asking if they could hold bodies at our facility but boom we were filled. Then mortuaries we didn’t even work for asked if we had space. When I had to drop bodies off at mortuaries they had extra tables and I would have to place two bodies on little tables. Ultimately bodies had to be put on floors. We rented a portable cooler but it soon filled up. We were using old gurneys anything to put bodies on. I remember thinking it was like an apocalypse. I kept thinking it was going to be a huge news story. Never was. After a few weeks it tapered down and things went back to normal. I just went to Niagara Falls a couple days ago. Waitress”oh my God your from Cali I heard the morgues are over flowing!” Car rental guy “ California! Heard the hospitals are overflowing and morgues are filling up!”
It is the strangest thing. It’s a national story (I don’t watch msm) and it is completely not true. Maddening!!!
Damn... that sounds scary. Thanks for posting man. Love hearing firsthand things like this.
Thank you for sharing, fascinating. Those dancing nurse videos really epitomize the hoax, they have nothing better to do (in nearly empty hospitals) than choreographing entire wards of nurses to do dance videos.
They make me angry beyond belief.
Anonymous source...
It does, those are some big claims that are unsupported when many labs all over the world sequenced the virus' genome. They have the virus.
They only sequenced PART of it. The MATCHING is like matching to a CAR. or a BANANA
or a HUMAN.
It does not sequence to a specific bad virus. only a family of viruii, which INCLUDE Influenzas' A and B.
40-50 amplification cycles is widely considered nonsense because it matches dead and insignificant numbers.
The PLAN is to reduce that to a nominal number more commonly accepted (10-20) and then the numbers of matches will go way down.
Remember - a MATCH is NOT a CASE!
the entire thing is insanity.
I’m a MLS ( medical lab scientist) with a masters degree, I have been in the profession for 19 years. I currently teach immunology and hematology to medical lab students. The virus is fishy to say the least. All the rules have been broken for a virus that has a 99% survival rate. Never in history has this been the narrative. This so called vaccine skipped animal trials, was not tested on specific populations with specific co-morbidities, it utilizes MRNA which has never been used before successfully, meaning never made it through clinical trials. It normally takes around 5 years for a vaccine development to market.
Not to mention that flu has almost been eradicated!? As a bench tech during flu season you can spend your day processing hundreds of influenza tests, why now has that changed? It’s all COVID now. It does not make any sense.
MLS as well and agree with everything you’ve said.
https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download
"Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA" - page 42
Well that's nice and all...but we are past the concept of proof, evidence or actual expert analysis. All that matters is the leftist narrative and that's the only purity test that anything in this world needs to pass apparently.
Here is another person who shows you why the virus does not exist.
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2020/12/20/sars-cov-2-has-not
The earth is flat too. I have sources....
Handshake username checks out.
Is it overinflated? Yes. Are half the tests bullshit? Yes. Is it real? Yes...AJ had the guy on who wrote a lot of the modern bio warfare treaties. They basically all say it is a China chimera virus that isn't deadly by itself but does have gain of function so it spreads quickly. Many of the experts hypothesis is that it is part one laying the ground work for the next bio weapon release which will kill far more people.
I have wondered if it is real as well but I think it is. Other countries also said they looked at virus and could see insertion points where it was modified. I dont think we should lock down over it though
Find the gold sample. Otherwise it does not exist.
It is like you providing a forged check and saying you have a million dollars. You have a check in your hand that says you do. Well, take it in to the bank, and get the funds. Prove you have a million dollars. Otherwise, it does not exist.
Genome, with matches from several different sources: https://mra.asm.org/content/9/11/e00169-20
GOLD STANDARD. Please provide evidence of its existence.
This dude is such a LARP. do some research on him.
He is not wrong.
I'll await you providing me with evidence that the virus exists.
IMO It is a cold laced with HIV by a Chinese lab. They wanted it to be weak enough so some people (justifiably) believe it is 100% fake. In March-May, there were a few fat 40 year old men who said it was fake, and then died. The reason it hasn't continued is that the mutation gets less potent as time goes on. I believe this was because this plan was supposed to be years from now, but with Trump, the NWO was now or never. The other purpose ofc was so it kills all the elderly with little time left anyways, to make everyone panic, not realizing they are giving their rights away for people who would have likely died next year. Also, it seems Europe's was worse early on, so Democrat governors had to improvise with the nursing home policies.
Proof that it exists:
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/multimedia/swiss-research_a-swiss-lab-made-the-first-synthetic-clone-of-covid-19/45593190
No gold standard isolated virus, Prove that exists before anything else. If you take a fake genome and create a version of it, it is still a fake genome.
But the virus still exists...
If you take the genome and then create the virus from it then the virus exists.
Again, how do you reproduce something that you really have no original of?
Unless you isolate the virus so that there is only the virus present, it is impossible to know what the genome is.
Thus far, 11 months later, they have not been able to isolate it. Do you know why they cannot or will not isolate it? Because it does not exist. It is just your run of the mill influenza virus we see every year.
Only when you isolate it, create a gold standard sample, can you honestly know what it is.
Provide this one tiny little thing, and this can all be cleared up. But nope, after trillions of dollars they cannot provide this tiny little bit of evidence.
Just like the vote scammers cannot provide the evidence that Biden won.
There may have been no original or it may not have been in the population. Ultimately however it definitely exists now.
That doesn't mean that every single case is that. It existing or not is not the same as whether someone has it or not, died of it or not, etc.
They most likely are being sent samples that aren't the virus and lots of people not bothering to check or confirm just assuming or relying on stuff.
We're really conflating a few different problems and we'll probably find there's a lot more.
It's also easy to muddle terms. There's a difference between a fabricated pandemic and a manmade pandemic for example.
If there isn’t an original, it cannot exist. Now or ever. Your argument is ridiculous.
Yes and no.
Just because you replicated something someone said was SARS-CoV-2 does not mean it is SARS-CoV-2.
The virus exists but that doesn't mean that it definitely exists in someone with some kind of cold or flu. What used to be symptoms of hundreds of cold / flu viruses or bacterial pneumonia, etc, perhaps thousands, are now only symptoms of COVID-19. That's a different medical error. Specifically people are finding it's not existing in patients or samples they're told it is or there's reliance on many tests, etc with insufficient checks they're definitely working with one virus or pathogen and not another.
Doesn't matter what I or you believe posting LARPS only ruins credibility.
Well, you prove to me the guy is a total and complete LARP and I will delete the post. Deal?
Send us a link to the actual lawsuit of those 7 universities that he claims, and we'll believe that it's not a LARP. Surely, you've investigated at least THAT, given how sold you are on the dude?
Do your own research, or does 1 anonymous source totally convince you? Just Google the author you'll see pretty quick.
The fact remains that there is no gold sample of the virus. Without that, you have no idea what it is. It would be like me telling you to go out to a swamp and to stick a net into the water any place you want to and what ever you pull out we will say is a snapping turtle.
You might not get anything, you might get a fish or a stick, but what ever you pull out, will be deemed to be a snapping turtle.
That is all they did with this virus so far, and we are what, 11 months in?
Didn’t the Irish government just have to admit this very same thing through FOI requests? The virus has never been isolated.
And Canadian.
Send us the case number when you file so we can follow.
Sorry, but that was all bullshit. Almost no one is going on the ventilator any more. In fact it was found the ventilators are what were killing the first "cases".
Really? I currently have it, as well as two other family members? All officially tested as "positive". It is like a mild flu. We all had minimal fever. Barely any cough. The worst part is muscle and joint aches which feel exactly like the flu. In fact I have had worse cases of flu. Not sure this isn't some strain of the flu they just claim is covid.
Media, friends, family, coworkers, online strangers, grocery workers, gas station attendants, I remember!
I believe it. But what do we say to people that say, "what about the loss of smell? I've never heard about that before covid."
I lost my sense of smell in 2006. Again in 2009 and then this year. It is normal for flu to do that. One reason people do not "feel" like eating when sick, because the food is bland.
Baaaaaased
See it for yourself
"Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA"
https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download
Old post of mine.
https://thedonald.win/p/11RNojJf5a/since-no-quantified-virus-isolat/c/
At the time and no time since then. They can just as easily be testing for whether or not you are human. No evidence against this thought.
Need a factual virus to test against.
You can download sars cov2 genome which is in fact 40k pairs or so. So where does that come from?
Gold standard. need a gold standard for there to be a genome. PROVIDE THAT before the other.
Huh?
If the virus has never been isolated into a gold standard, where the only thing in the sample is the specific virus, there is no way to get the genome information.
Until you give me evidence of an isolated virus in a gold standard sample, you cannot claim there is a known genome.
This is science. Plain and simple.
This like bo is another hoax on America. The bankers are loosing their share of the interest if China puts their crypto currency in play.
That is why our so called leaders sent money all over the world, to keep the heroin going. Money fix.
Bidding time to allow them to get situated
Another Pede recently posted that it is likely that most of us already had the SARS-Cov-2 virus in our system. It just hasn’t been isolated until now.
Still has not. Not one time.
Pretty tough to get flu to spread in the summer...
Very easy apparently to get the flu to spread in the summer. What kills off flu season is people out in the sun. Shut down, lock downs and kicking people out of parks and off beaches helps spread the flu.
Guess what looks exactly like the flu in summer? Lyme disease, which is everywhere now. Whole bunch of people got Lyme this summer (CDC has a low estimate of 300K new cases a year), and probably got misdiagnosed with “Covid.” They’re in for a world of hurt the rest of their life, when they now get misdiagnosed with an autoimmune disease like Multiple Sclerosis or CFS and put on steroids.
And it’s never just lyme. There are at least 7 other co-infections that go along with Lyme, which the CDC doesn’t want you to know about.
The virus is real... it's not the flu, and it fucking kills people.
If you want to make the case that people are over reacting and we shouldn't lock down everything... I'm totally with you.
However, saying that's not happening is total denial bullshit that isn't productive.
Where did the normal flu go?
The PCR test can't distinguish between one and the other. They're all lumped together. Initially, the "positive" cases of the WuhanFlu were a clinical diagnosis - meaning that they doctors and nurses assumed the patient had the disease based on their symptoms. China was a fucking mess in the beginning... and the MSM hear said nothing much about it for weeks. The CDC failed to make accurate tests and was getting false positives/negatives which destroyed any effort at contact tracing. The WHO lied to everyone and told us that China was doing a great job, and we should not restrict travel.... This whole thing was gaslighted from top to bottom, so it's no wonder that people don't believe it's "real".
If the PCR test can’t distinguish between the regular flu and the wuflu, then no one can say with any measure of certainty that the wuflu exists. If PCR can be used to determine who murdered someone 20+ years back, it should be able to determine the difference between viruses. If it can’t, then either the method is suspect, which throws PCR testing based convictions into the hot seat or it casts doubt on the existence of the wuflu.
Xrays can confirm lung damage and the dead bodies that are piling up across the globe are real. Seriously, believe what you want.
http://www.novcov.com/wiki/index.php?title=WHO_and_China_Timeline
The flu is worse, I currently have covid. You have bought into the hysteria.
I'm very happy you (as with a decent percentage of folks) are experiencing light symptoms. With your one person poll, I'm not sure you would be able to account for the people whose immune system goes into overdrive and creates a cytokine storm that destroys their organs. I'm not going to get historical about this disease, but I'm not going to deny that it could and does kill people. The more important question, is how do we mitigate the worst of the economic damage while being responsible with everyone's health. Currently, I think now that their is a vaccine, people who know that they're not going to take it should "run the gauntlet" and work to build herd immunity. This will cost a lot of lives, but ultimately it is the only way to end this government sanctioned tyranny that is being imposed on all of us.
Sorry man, you hysterical spazs are going to attempt to argue with someone who actually has it right now, along with son and wife? Everyone I know who has had it barely experiences anything but mild flu symptoms
You drama queens can present all the scare mongering bullshit you want but this has told me that it is no different than a typical flu season which have always causes deaths with co morbities. My five person sample groups is more than this cytokine storm hysteria you are pushing based on articles you have read. People like you panic and thrive on this kind of bullshit and you look ridiculous.
I only have to be right one time out of 100 to fit the profile.