If he was a nationalist he wouldn't have made Times magazines person of the year. We're not morons. We know the truth. American news papers literally supported Adolf and thought he was the greatest man of them all and those very same socialists are trying to convince you hitler was an alt right nationalist to this day.
Their is nothing wrong with being alt-right today when the radical left has gone off a cliff of mental insanity and still refuse to acknowledge that the left can go too far. There is nothing wrong with being a nationalist either. Being a nationalist is a good thing. You should be proud of your country unless you're born in China tbh
It's also worth noting that "communism" is just a label that comes from the Marx/Engles fairy tale and it cannot ever exist in reality. All "communism" is totalitarian fascism with a "pretty" label sewn on. Fuck all socialism, fuck all tyranny.
For it to be fascism, one individual would need to have complete control over the entire country. Law, economy, etc.
While The Soviet Union under Stalin was definitely fascism. You can have communism without fascism. In that case you always get a corrupt societal elite anyways, which isn't technically fascism.
You'll never see democratic communism though, because of their society being class based and paradoxically, unequal as hell
The greatest story never told.
That's right. It isn't. But people use the word not knowing what it means
Yup.
There's a distinct difference.
From my other comment: "Communism is class based socialism (marxist-socialism). National Socialism is race/nationality/culture based socialism"
the nazis now are connected to facebook im learning. a real shame. not what i signed up for.
Sad!
Actually he was a nationalist. He just happened to be a socialist also.
Communism is marxist socialism (class based anti private ownership bullshit). National Socialism is race/nationality based socialism
Idk man the party name literally starts with "national socialist"
That's not nationalism. That's nationwide socialism. That has nothing to do with nationalism grammatically speaking.
I personally think hitler have off a "patriotic" vibe but his actions speak louder than his words and he clearly had nothing to do with nationalism considering he literally went on a conquest to conquer the world.
I firmly believe the party started as national socialists but ended as something way different than that. If they were just national socialists they would've starved to death like every other socialist communist country. Instead they gained power. They called themselves socialists but their real goal was purely demonic in nature. You couldn't even describe how bad it was by putting them in the "national socialist" box they themselves decided to be in.
It's just like how the radical lefties today call it a "women's choice" to kill babies, say that everyone belongs on various rungs of a ladder based on their perceived "privilege" then they call themselves moderates, and democratic socialists. It's way worse than what they describe themselves as because the bible says they're blind fools. They themselves don't even understand the demonic possession that has a death grip on their entire realities while they convince themselves they are normal.
So yeah, we can argue about whether or not they were commies, socialists which are close enough to ending with the same results to the point it doesn't really even matter. We can argue about how they were nationalist socialists or national socialists but I think at the end of the day the point we're all missing is that it's way worse than all those things even combined because mortal words can't describe how bad demonic possession really is. Satan himself has control of them. They are way worse than socialists and communists because demonic possession is capable of convincing them that both are good when both are horrifically bad. They take the evil stance on every. Single. Position. They kill babies, rob us with welfare, destroy our communities, enslave us, order us with numbers, order us with "privileges" and social credit scores. Hitler himself admitted to being a full blown socialist and to "not let anyone tell you otherwise" but hitler was a smart retard. He thought he was these things when really he was controlled by satan the entire time. The same thing is happening with these lefties today. It's orders of magnitude worse than them just being socialist baby killers.
I just think this whole "he was a nationalist" argument is so horrifically wrong when you look at it in context. Even if he was a nationalist, all the evil demon possessed actions he did proves that wrong.
Realise satan is a deceiver. And the deceived do not know they were deceived. These radical lefties call themselves socialists but don't be fooled. They are orders of magnitude worse than just socialists. Do not be deceived. If any of these people in history had Jesus Christ in their lives, none of that hitler stuff would have ever happened. The radical lefties wouldn't be radial lefties and there would be no demonic possession stealing peoples souls and getting them to do it volunterily and even begging for it. The Bible says men chose darkness because they knew their deeds we're evil.
The abortion supporting baby killers won't even think about being wrong because they're so blinded by lies they won't even question anything outside of the "it's my body my choice" thought bubble. That's a whole other pandoras box than just being evil socialists.
Hitler being a socialist was just 1% of the evil that existed in that man. The same thing with the "demoncratic socialists" today. They don't even realise they've been possessed by the evil one. They think they are truely rightious and fighting the good fight to enslave us all. Convinced reality itself is evil. America bad, globalism good, Up is down and down is up. Good is evil and evil good. Bible says woah unto thoss who call good evil and evil good, who substitute sweet for sour and sour for sweet.
The Reich had a food and fuel shortage by 1939/40. They were going to starve, and their economy was going to collapse.
A long meeting on the pros and cons of the global market (satisfying German needs through trade) and self-sufficiency (read conquest) was held before any military campaigns, where Hitler's conclusion was that self-sufficiency was the way to go. Something he'd already thought of and rants about in his book of semi-coherent ramblings "Mein Kampf". They needed food, minerals, oil, pretty much everything but coal. This was to be realized in the east for various reasons (not wanting a war with France and/or Great Britain, eastern peoples being viewed as weaker, etc). One attendant transcribed most of what Hitler said. I can find it for you if you'd like to read it.
They were extremely nationalistic. Just not in the way you're used to seeing it manifest.
By the time they invaded the Soviet Union they were no longer able to feed everyone. Food was directed to the German heartland but in occupied France for example, more and more people were starting to go hungry.
The main purpose of the invasion of the Soviet Union was to conquer the fertile lands of the Ukraine and the oilfields of the Caucasus. That was the main reason.
Sure, both nazism and communism are marxist-based ideologies, but Hitler hated communism (my socialism is better than your socialism), especially bolshevik communism (Hitler believed the bolshevism was a Jewish creation). He did want to destroy the Soviet Union for that reason but the main reason was always self-sufficiency.
Making assumptions about history is unavoidable, but you're making too many since we actually have answers to questions about nazi motives.
They were nationalists. Just evil nationalists.
Hope this clears things up.
You only proved exactly the point I was describing but your not able to see that so I'm not going to waste my time trying to show you how. You only proved exactly what I was saying.
If they were evil nationalists they wouldn't have been throwing jews in concentration camps they were anything but nationalists. They were national socialists by their own definitions but even then the real evil behind them made the socialism factor look like child's play. You only proved my point that they weren't nationalists because when the food started running out they had to go try to conquer others in order to get the food they needed to survive. They were not nationalists, literally everything they did points otherwise. They were national socialists who went insane. They didn't want nationalism nationwide they wanted socialism nation wide and that didn't work so they had to go burn loot and murder in order to get the food they needed.
So you think you've proven me wrong but your own comments only helps to solidify my point. Thanks 👍
No. They knew the food was going to run out way before they had even invaded Czechoslovakia. They were nationalistic as hell. All the conquest was in the name of their nation. To make it stronger and self-sufficient. Conquered territories were to have their population replaced by Germans and others of good "blood", such as Scandinavian SS volunteers.
You ignored or skipped a large part of what I said apparently. They didn't take power and realize "oh shit this won't work", and then invade other nations. They knew beforehand what they needed to realize their vision of a Greater Germany, and Hitler despised capitalism and didn't want to rely on trade.. The war of territorial and material conquest was always the plan.
You should read this: https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/hossbach.asp
They called themselves socialists bro you're not going to convince me they were nationalist as hell when they were self admitted socialists. Nationalists love their country they don't throw people into concentration camps. They were anything but nationalists, they were evil satan worshippers. If you can't see that then md explaining it to you a hundred times isn't going to help. Nationalists are patriotic. They don't throw jews in concentration camps. That's anything but nationalists. That's satan worshipping. Demonic possession at the very least.
What you're saying, makes no sense. You assume nationalism can only be expressed in good ways. That's a massive fallacy. Not to mention you seem to think nationalism and socialism can't be combined. Well they can. Just like most ideologies.
China is a communist country. They're also nationalistic, they run labor camps, and they commit genocide. They're still nationalists.
All nationalists do not think the way you do. Nationalism does not mean "do what's good for our country by only doing good things and not hurting anyone".
The nazis believed Germany was superior, the German race was superior. Jews were not considered German. There is nothing to support what you're saying other than your opinion which itself seems to be based on very little understanding of ideology. Just because you want a word to mean only what you say it means, doesn't make it so.
"Nationalists are patriotic" Patriotism and Nationalism can take different forms and manifest in different ways. Not all of them are good. You love your country, you fight for it with your life, you're a patriot. What you're fighting for could still be terrible.
Being a nationalist isn't inherently bad on its own. It can be something great. It can also get extremely ugly. Just like most things. What you're doing is revisionism. You should learn about the subject you want to debate before throwing yourself into it.
I'm telling you bro if you call yourself a nationalist and throw people in concentration camps you're not a nationalist. You can't seem to understand this. The nazis were national socialists not nationalist socialists. I'm not going to explain this to you 100 times. China can pretend to be patriotic for their country but they have concentration camps. They aren't nationalists they are more evil than they are nationalists. Just because someone tells you what they are doesn't mean they're always right. Blind fools are blinded by darkness the bible says. They can call themselves nationalists and they can wave their countries flag but if they're worshipping satan more than they are focusing on their country then I'm not going to believe they are as nationalist as they say. Hitler couldn't have possibly been a nationalist if his country was running out of food and they had to pillage other countries to eat. He was more focused on concquering europe than he was focused on germany. That's not the behavior of a nationalist. A nationalist is a nationalist. Their is no "your version of a nationalist" their is no "my version of a nationalist" a nationalist is a nationalist just like up is up and down is down.
No thanks pal. I think I'll pass on reading the genocidal maniac blind fool world domination driven wet dream of a book.
Kinda sounds like you are defending hitler a bit here don't it??
I'm not saying we should ban the book by any means but I'm not wasting my time reading that piece of flaming satanic trash.
Sounds like you're reading a blind fools book and taking him for his own word. Have fun being decieved buddy.
Everyone who doesn't accept Jesus is a blind fool by Jesus himselfs own words. If you think hitler wasn't a blind fool I don't know what to tell you. You sure sound like you're defending hitler.
Ah, have fun saying I'll be deceived when right before you admitted you listen to advice from someone who is a homicidal maniac.
Idk man, you're sure trying really hard to get me to read hitlers book. You seem to like taking advice from homicidal maniacs. I'll stick with my Bible. You should repent and turn from your whicked ways before it's too late. Follow Jesus not Sun Tzu. Have fun assuming what I have and haven't read. This is the most redpilled place on the internet. I know all about the shitty demonic garbage that is the communist manifesto. Have fun assuming what people know around you, and trying to get me to read hitlers book. I'll happily pass. I don't need to read the whole quaran to be able to tell that book isn't worth my weight in gold to read. Have fun reading books from genocidal maniacs when you could repent and dip your soul in the blood of christ and be born again.
You're going to learn more from jesus book then you will from the books of genocidal maniacs. Jesus doesn't want you reading hitlers book he wants you to carry your cross. He could care less about the horse trash garbage book that hitler wrote.
I don't read books written by soy boys. I've read enough of hitlers book. I read books by alpha males. Jesus is the alpha and the omega. Repent from your whicked genocidal maniac book reading while you still can. Don't let those evil books deceive you. you sound like you read hitlers book like you should be reading your Bible and it disgusts me. I don't take advice from genocidal maniacs.
The Bible says to have nothing to do with the dark works of evil. Is light the same as darkness?? Is darkness friends with light? That's my point. I answered your question right there.
You sure like to admit that you're nuts deep in genocidal maniacs books so of course I'm not going to trust you 😂 you put all those words in your own mouth yourself buddy. Everyone is a sinner smart one. You need to put down the genocidal maniacs books and go read a Bible before those books take you to hell and you drag the rest of us with you.
He was a national socialist; it's a type of socialism, just like obozo was a Fabian socialist. Actually, obummer was a islamo- fascist, but you get my point.